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[Guy Kilmore]

I have been reading Doyle's stuff and you can usuall figure out the "who in Sherlock's Holmes quickly, but not the how and the why.  (The rare times you can't figure out the who, it is because the who has not been presented at all really.)  I thought the most recent episode in Elementary, after the super bowl, was pretty good in this respect.  I also think the BBC version is "better", but they are really different formants (Mini-series as opposed to weekly drama).

[Black Wolf Smith]

Guy Kilmore, on 07 February 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

I have been reading Doyle's stuff and you can usuall figure out the "who in Sherlock's Holmes quickly, but not the how and the why.  (The rare times you can't figure out the who, it is because the who has not been presented at all really.)  I thought the most recent episode in Elementary, after the super bowl, was pretty good in this respect.  I also think the BBC version is "better", but they are really different formants (Mini-series as opposed to weekly drama).

I agree. I was just pointing out, unlike many US shows, (NCIS, NCIS:LA, L & O, etc.) you don't always know 8 mintues in who did it.

[Warg Arry]

I really liked this one. It was interesting seeing Sherlock rattled. Seriously I get the guys anxiety. But what an asshole.

For a moment I was worried that Sherlock and Watson was going to have it out. After he spoke to his father.

[red snow]

I thought the last few episodes of this season were pretty good. I was particularly impressed with the feature length finale. There's one thing I can now say with conviction is better than the BBC version. Moriarty.

Spoiler

I thought it was going to be that Irene was an agent of Moriarty so was pretty surprised when it turned out she was Moriarty. I sort of kicked myself because it when the hitman mentioned "she" I thought "Moriarty could be a woman. Watson is" but still didn't think it was Adler. I'm pleased it meant Dormer could drop her somewhat ropey american accent and she is proving to be quite a versatile actress. I don't know if she demands to do nudity in her roles though as even Elementary went out of it's way to show her wearing as little as possible for a network show.
What was Moriarty's weakness? The implication I got was that she was weirdly in love with Sherlock despite him thwarting her plans. It would make sense that Watson worked this out and not Sherlock

The second half of the season got a bit samey but it looks like they can do strong episodes when required. I'm guessing/hoping that Moriarty finds a way out of the current predicament (it seems likely) and that they can contine to have Moriarty causing him problems. That said, I'd really like the show to develop som other nemeses for Holmes. There's nothing stopping them.

I was a bit leery of the idea of a female Watson but Miller and Lui have a really fun chemistry together and they have yet to force any romantic angle. It's inevitable (especially considering the events of the finale) but i hope they keep it as a slow burn.

Should be fun when it returns as it looks like "sherlock" will be airing before the end of the year/early 2014.

[Warg Arry]

I think Moriarty was intrigued with Sherlock. There was the definite "I'm much smarter than you" feeling. But Sherlock kept surprising Moriarty. It's a decent parallel to Sherlock who must solve the puzzle. That it becomes an open ended question of why or how. If Sherlock was killed. That might be something that eats at Moriarty. I don't think Moriarty figured out what Watson did. Or at least didn't recognise it as that.  I don't think it is in the same league as BBC Sherlock. But as a show on it's own merits. It's entertaining, engaging. And has some great character chemistry. There is definitely some formulaic episodes. But there is some great griping episodes too. Overall the actors have seemed consistent in their portrayal of this version. I'm pleased it has been renewed for a second season.

[red snow]

Warg Arry, on 19 May 2013 - 05:53 PM, said:

I think Moriarty was intrigued with Sherlock. There was the definite "I'm much smarter than you" feeling. But Sherlock kept surprising Moriarty. It's a decent parallel to Sherlock who must solve the puzzle. That it becomes an open ended question of why or how. If Sherlock was killed. That might be something that eats at Moriarty. I don't think Moriarty figured out what Watson did. Or at least didn't recognise it as that.  I don't think it is in the same league as BBC Sherlock. But as a show on it's own merits. It's entertaining, engaging. And has some great character chemistry. There is definitely some formulaic episodes. But there is some great griping episodes too. Overall the actors have seemed consistent in their portrayal of this version. I'm pleased it has been renewed for a second season.

Yeah, this Moriary's motivations and wanting Sherlock around worked far better than it did in "sherlock". Moriarty's final scene in "Sherlock" just struck me as a bit pathetic.