65536ob Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 How do you think the others came to exist?My theory is that they are children of the forest who disagreed with the pact and wanted westeros for themselves again so they turned to a different kind of magic which turned them into the others and they knew of the changes it would do to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I don't believe it but I had the idea that they're wargs that succeeded where Varamyr failed. That they move on to another body as their current one gives out to sustain their consciousness eternally. That's why they take Craster's male babies, as presumably like the feeble minded the young undeveloped mind is easier to take control of and they don't end up being rejected as with the Varamyr situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I don't believe it but I had the idea that they're wargs that succeeded where Varamyr failed. That they move on to another body as their current one gives out to sustain their consciousness eternally. That's why they take Craster's male babies, as presumably like the feeble minded the young undeveloped mind is easier to take control of and they don't end up being rejected as with the Varamyr situation.This sounds very plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementia Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I don't think their origins are very "special". Just like humans or the CotF...they're just there...another species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfell Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Well, when a mommy Other and a daddy Other really love each Other.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 They were Children of the forest who decided to use Blood magic to become something else. Another sect of COTF went against them and sided with humainity. They had the great war and the friendly COTF helped the first men build the wall to end the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealbando Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I don't believe it but I had the idea that they're wargs that succeeded where Varamyr failed. That they move on to another body as their current one gives out to sustain their consciousness eternally. That's why they take Craster's male babies, as presumably like the feeble minded the young undeveloped mind is easier to take control of and they don't end up being rejected as with the Varamyr situation.Never thought of this. Seems like a godd explenation and it would be interesting if it turns out to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Crow Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Why not come across to the dark side - heresy - where you may learn much and more :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter's Prince Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The Others are Ice & Fire's version of Xenomorph, an out of control bioweapon used to cleanse the world of man and their monstrous ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The Others are Ice & Fire's version of Xenomorph, an out of control bioweapon used to cleanse the world of man and their monstrous waysMore like the bleh Prometheus version...they are the COTF Bioweapon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Titan's Legitimate Son Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 They are made from the tears of dissapointed children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Wun Wun Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I don't believe it but I had the idea that they're wargs that succeeded where Varamyr failed. That they move on to another body as their current one gives out to sustain their consciousness eternally. That's why they take Craster's male babies, as presumably like the feeble minded the young undeveloped mind is easier to take control of and they don't end up being rejected as with the Varamyr situation.Cool thought. The way they control the dead definitely suggests they have some warg like abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beorn Snow Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I like the warg idea, but then what is the connection with the winter?There has to be more too it them being an alliance of wargers jumping from body to body.COTF gone bad seems more plausible to me in that sense, but more predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yeah it doesn't explain much, like why their body seems to resemble crystal armour or why they're concentrated in the North. But I suppose being wargs/necromancers/sorcerers they may have been hunted and fled far North, the books tell of warging not being socially acceptable. Either way they appear to want male babies and as babies wouldn't make good wights I think the babies must propagate their race or extend their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic 8 Ball Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 When I was first reading the books, I imagined the others as large, graceful, elf-like creatures in icy Predator-armor.The Cotf are like stunted hobgoblin humanoids with some feline or lizardy sort of characteristics.I don't think these folks is related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yeah it doesn't explain much, like why their body seems to resemble crystal armour or why they're concentrated in the North. But I suppose being wargs/necromancers/sorcerers they may have been hunted and fled far North, the books tell of warging not being socially acceptable. Either way they appear to want male babies and as babies wouldn't make good wights I think the babies must propagate their race or extend their lives.But what use is a baby's body to them? They aint' gonna be slaying no Rangers if they inhabit one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Syv Aldlark Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think the male babies and their need for warm blooded creatures is some kind of blood ritual similar to R'hllor's burning the blood of a king and even Dany's rising the dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 But what use is a baby's body to them? They aint' gonna be slaying no Rangers if they inhabit oneI'm assuming they age, that it's cyclical, they're taking the babies out of necessity to keep them going rather than convenience. Regardless if Craster's sons do become Others as Craster's wives seem to think then at some point they've got to undergo an "othering" changing process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Karstark Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Every time you ask GRRM about the release date of his next book, an Other is born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Gotta Stan Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not sure exactly, but I think they tie in with the Cotf... im in the "cotf are evil" camp though :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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