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Did you like the the change of Stannis on the Blackwater?


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#61 DarkAndFullOfTurnips

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:38 PM

Some of the nudity and vulgarity is 10 times worse in the books. Although they did seem to choose weird times to show it in the series. In the first episode Ned and Cat were supposed to have just had sex and been naked in their bed when Luwin approaches, thankfully they do spare you some of those details.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 05:57 PM

Thought it was badass.

But then I hadn't read the books yet.

"hundreds will die"
"thousands"

one of the greatest lines in history.

Edited by Darryk, 28 January 2013 - 05:58 PM.


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Posted 28 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

ok, havent read this thread yet, just a couple of posts but it occurrred to me something that Renly said (and is apparently a widely held belief) that Stannis shouldnt be king because he is not charasmatic enough.

With all this love for BAMF Stannis, is it really in keeping that Stannis would have trouble being king, leading powerful lords?  I think not.

Of course I love BAMF stannis so there is that.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 04:54 AM

It changes the books but I think you should just not bother watching the tv series if you are going to complain about every little change.

It's a tv show based on the books. It's more interesting for Stannis to be on the frontlines fighting then pushing wooden men around a map which is the alternative.

It's also a great juxtaposition with Joffrey who runs away at the first sign things are going wrong and Cersei who is hearing about the battle second hand.

Also, lead characters don't wear helmets on tv - it's tv, not a historical adaptation. It was stupid but get over it.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:30 PM

My word, simply put, if you're offended by the nudity and think it spoils the show for you: don't watch it!
Although frankly, I'd rather have the gratuitous nudity than Martin's truly embarrassing metaphors (pink mast anyone?)

As for Stannis, Stephen Dilaine is absolutely badass!

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:20 PM

View PostGannicus, on 26 January 2013 - 03:14 AM, said:

The sex in the books is so much more painful too. GRRM can't write a sex scene to save his life.

I don't know what kind of sex you've  been having but it strikes me as very real or at least revealing.  Ned and Cat in book 1 was very "been married a few decades but still going at it" type sex.  It's the kind I'm used to and it was nice to see it not all hot and heavy or them being bored with each other.

Jamie and Cersei in the sept going at it in front of their dead son was very revealing at the depths of depravity they had for each other and how out of control and destructive their first relationship was.   Sam's was very "first time and awkward" type sex.   He writes great sex scenes, just not ones full of romance and passion.  If you're having the sex of romance novels congrats but that's not most people's lives and GRRM reflects that well.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:24 PM

You can't imply things on TV as well as in a book.  It's hard to make Stannis a feared and respected commander on TV, it's easier to simply show him leading his men.  

I expect in Season 3 we'll see Jon hack some wildlings with his sword, maybe even a giant.   It works better on TV than having him work out the logistics of how many arrows they have left and simply pushing a few frozen buckets off the edge of the cliff.  If some make it to the top and have to get cut down or Jon himself instead of Donnel Nye goes into the tunnels it works well for TV.  No harm in it.   I tell stories differently if I'm telling them to an adult in person, to kids around a campfire, or on a facebook post.  There are different storytelling methods for different mediums.  GoT does a wonderful job telling the story of Westeros.