PatrickStormborn, on 27 January 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:
That's just a matter of him being the character who fits the most cliched fantasy tropes despite GRRM promising to deconstruct said tropes.
I read this a lot but really I don't think Martin meant that his fantasy novel
would be devoid of fantasy "tropes". I mean it has dragons, yeah well we've seen that before. It has malevolent alien beings creating zombies and wanting to dominate life. Yeah we've seen that before as well and not only in fantasy but also in other genres like sci-fi and horror.
My point is, fantasy tropes are inevitable in a fantasy novel.
Then I read stuff like "it should be about the Game not the Wall". Yeah well hate to break it to people but it is about the Wall and what's happening there. In the end magic (and thus, fantasy tropes) will become more and more prevelant coming two novels. The Game is but a sideshow, and Dany's Idiot Abroad adventures a spinoff altogether.
In the end it's all about humanity destroying Evil and there's a good chance Jonny's going to play a big part in that. And a lot of people who want more of the Game and less "Wall stuff" may not like that, which can lead to not liking Jon. I don't know what those people are expecting though because well, they've signed up for a fantasy novel
not an alternate history fiction.
Edited by Scipio Africanus, 27 January 2013 - 12:49 PM.