Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Now that they have Dragonstone, the Redwyne fleet is theoretically free to return to the Reach. They apparently have 200 warships so that should be enough to hold Euron at bay. Remember that Euron sent a good portion of his fleet with Vic. Now that the Tyrells are gaining control of KL the threat from the East seems just as large. It might make sense to leave the Lord of the Waters on the Stepstones.Waters best course is joining with Aegon and his impending coalition. As a matter of fact, I would no be surprised if he has been plotting with Varys. I already expect Aegon to be sitting the iron throne by the end of TWOW. If Waters joins him it will give him the one thing he lacks (sea power). As we have seen, a fleet is necessary to assault King's Landing.Euron sent the 100 ships of the iron fleet under Victarian. These are the ironmen's best ships as they are much larger and made for war. Whats left is 400 or so longships and smaller ships. Unless Euron gets dragon support, his fleet likely will have trouble against the warships of House Redwyne and the superior numbers of the Reach. However, Euron is a tactical genius, so I won't put victory beyond his capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm of House Tucker Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I agree with those who think that Aurane Waters will side with Aegon. For starters, didn't some of the Golden Company fleet go missing in the Stepstones? And Arianne is preparing to sail through there as well. Either she or the Golden Company people will meet with this pirate king Lord of the Waters and convince him to side with Aegon. It would give Aegon naval power to assault King's Landing while the Redwyne Fleet engages the Ironborn on the other side of the continent. Using the ships he stole from Cersei to sack King's Landing is the best option, but he could also send the fleet to the Vale in an attempt to get them to join Aegon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 There is a good theory around the forums that Aurane may join up with Stannis and Manderly; as Patchface (so cryptically) prophesizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Blackfyre Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I wonder if Aurane could be working for Varys, it seems like a move that is a little out of his character, but so did killing Kevan Lannister. Could be trying to secure ships for Dany or even maybe early support for Aegon altho by this point the prince was heading to slavers bay so its not likely to be him. I still like the (unlikely) conspiracy that Varys is a targ or blackfyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grod823 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Perhaps he will play some role in the battle of Mereen and align him and his warships with Dany. :bs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Perhaps he will play some role in the battle of Mereen and align him and his warships with Dany. :bs:I think all of the characters for Meereen have already been setup, and Aurane is not among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jentario Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Honestly, I don't give a flying f*** about Aurane Waters. He's just one more of Cersei's mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWeirwood Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I wonder if Aurane could be working for Varys, it seems like a move that is a little out of his character, but so did killing Kevan Lannister. Could be trying to secure ships for Dany or even maybe early support for Aegon altho by this point the prince was heading to slavers bay so its not likely to be him. I still like the (unlikely) conspiracy that Varys is a targ or blackfyre.Unlikely? Really? How many bald eunuchs do you know? Answer: none, eunuchs don’t go bald. He’s just shaving his head to hide his blood-of-the-dragon–colored hair, the same way that Egg did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomixIGN Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Aurane is a Valyrian Honeytrap. I have no doubt that Varys is using him/instructing him and they plotted together.. He left for the Stepstones because Aegon was landing, stupid was on her way out the building, and the Stepstones needed to be held - the trap set... for Daenerys's Fleet. Any ship from the south has to pass through the Stepstones and when they do they'll be met by the Royal Fleet Admiral - the spitting image of Rhaegar - under a Targaryen Flag.Now, I don't know what he'll do when Daenerys gets there, open fire, bend the knee, try to steal her dragons, offer her an escort, or just pass her messages from Varys. But that is why he is there.If I had any wishes, it would be that the TV show showed Monford Velaryon at the Pyre and Stannis talked to him or about him. Davos complaining about the Lords not listening to what he says would have been a perfect moment to mention the Lord of the Tides "That man's blood is so pure three times the Targaryans took his forbearers to Wed to keep their own hair silver" It actually would have made for a nice little cameo scene for Jason Issacs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReekReekitRhymeswithGeek Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I think he should team up with saan and they should have an epic pirate fleet and carve out a chunk of westoros for themselves. Team saan anyone?TEAM SAAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HodorForKing Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Unlikely? Really? How many bald eunuchs do you know? Answer: none, eunuchs don’t go bald. He’s just shaving his head to hide his blood-of-the-dragon–colored hair, the same way that Egg did.I really like that theory about Varys being a Blackfyre/Targ, but I didn't understand why can't a eunuch get bald... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aryagonnakill Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I really like that theory about Varys being a Blackfyre/Targ, but I didn't understand why can't a eunuch get bald...Ironically enough, in ASOIAF it seems almost all Eunuchs are bald, as the unsullied represent 99.99999 percent of the ones we've met, all but Theon seem to be bald so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Tully Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I really like that theory about Varys being a Blackfyre/Targ, but I didn't understand why can't a eunuch get bald..." It has been theorized that the testicular secretion of testosterone "sets the stage" for androgenic alopecia [aka Male Patern Baldness] as a multifactorial diathesis-stress model, related to hormonal predisposition, environment and age. Supplementing eunuchs with testosterone during their 2nd decade, for example, causes slow progression of androgenic alopecia over many years, while testosterone late in life causes rapid hair loss within a month" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgenic_alopecia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodsteel bitterraven Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Waters is on his own. He doesn't give a damn about any of the high lords. He might play a role, because he has a fleet of warships, but I doubt he will side with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Waters is on his own. He doesn't give a damn about any of the high lords. He might play a role, because he has a fleet of warships, but I doubt he will side with anyone.A career as a sell sail menacing the Step Stones is only a temporary one. Sooner or late, the Seven Kingdoms will right themselves and the eventual ruler on the Iron Throne will send ships after Waters. He knows this and will choose to join a faction that is seeking the throne, in exchange for wealth, titles, lands, and lordship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petyr Patter Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Waters is on his own. He doesn't give a damn about any of the high lords. He might play a role, because he has a fleet of warships, but I doubt he will side with anyone.He has a fleet. He wants lands, titles, and wealth. The fleet on its own might get him the latter. A fleet paired with a king could get him all three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodsteel bitterraven Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 That's why I said that he will play a role. But even if he sides with someone, he will betray them at the first chance he gets to further his own agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFeastForDragons Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The big question is who is with Aurane?"Men of proven loyalty during the Battle of Blackwater"To me that spells out Stannis supporters but how did he convince several hundred men to just pack up, sail away and become pirates at a moments notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stallion That Mounts Texas Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 The big question is who is with Aurane?"Men of proven loyalty during the Battle of Blackwater"To me that spells out Stannis supporters but how did he convince several hundred men to just pack up, sail away and become pirates at a moments notice.I'd wager that the men with him are his men, recruited and vetted from amongst the populous of King's Landing. I don't think loyalty will be a problem for Aurane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SynthFG Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Euron sent the 100 ships of the iron fleet under Victarian. These are the ironmen's best ships as they are much larger and made for war. Whats left is 400 or so longships and smaller ships. Unless Euron gets dragon support, his fleet likely will have trouble against the warships of House Redwyne and the superior numbers of the Reach. However, Euron is a tactical genius, so I won't put victory beyond his capability.Your assuming Euron is still with the II fleets raiding the Reach, rather than following along somewhere behind Vic, Personally I think Euron is using the II as a distraction to pull the royal fleets to the west, leaving the east coast exposed.Waters is in an interesting position as if he's not allied to the Tyrells he makes it very hard for what survives of the Redwne fleet after it dispatches the Iron Islanders from turning around and heading east again.Being as there is now no royal fleet and the vale likely only has a standard compliment of customs and policing ships, this leaves Mandalay's fleet as the only major naval force on the east coast, and also leaves kings landing open to an surprise amphibious assault should teams Stan and Man join up after dispatching Bolton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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