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How will Dany receive Tyrion?


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#1 Grand Maester Mithrandir

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:41 AM

Many who believe in the A+J=T theory believe that once Tyrion gets to Dany and one of her dragons takes a liking to him (a la Brown Ben) she will simply do the same.
I don't think that it will be that simple. Firstly Tyrion is part of the family that killed her brother's children(we all know how much she despises the Usurper's dogs), also we know that Barristan bears no great love for Lannisters as well. The fact that he's keeping company with Brown Ben is also going to work against him I think.Also I dont think her prickly nature will allow her to to tolerate his satires.

Then theres this interesting passage in ACoK

The cream-colored dragon sunk sharp black claws into the lions mane

Does this foreshadow Viserion taking a liking(being the most docile dragon) to Tyrion or perhaps even killing him? /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

Either way, I don't think their meeting will go as smoothly as many people expect.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:50 AM

Many who believe in the A+J=T theory believe that once Tyrion gets to Dany and one of her dragons takes a liking to him (a la Brown Ben) she will simply do the same.
I don't think that it will be that simple. Firstly Tyrion is part of the family that killed her brother's children(we all know how much she despises the Usurper's dogs), also we know that Barristan bears no great love for Lannisters as well. The fact that he's keeping company with Brown Ben is also going to work against him I think.Also I dont think her prickly nature will allow her to to tolerate his satires.

Then theres this interesting passage in ACoK

Does this foreshadow Viserion taking a liking(being the most docile dragon) to Tyrion or perhaps even killing him? /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

Either way, I don't think their meeting will go as smoothly as many people expect.


Well, Tyrion killed Tywin and is accused of killed Joffery. So he has that going for him. I also suspect he has a plan that will be a huge help for Dany. I don't think she'll trust him, but she'll probably give him a chance.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 03:55 AM

Depends on how he presents himself no? I don't think Dany will take to him if he mentions "raping and killing" Cersei as his desired reward.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:02 AM

Tyrion will make himself useful, as always. Dany won't fail to notice that. The smoothness of the path to this understanding is another matter.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:36 AM

Tyrion is a wealth of information on several subjects of great interest to Dany:

-Dragons!
-The current rulers of the 7K, as well as the leaders of the Great Houses in general
-How to win friends and influence enemies
-Pig jousting (?)

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:47 AM

Tyron's big mouth ill be also crucial in Dany learning the truth about Aerys.

My guess is: Upon seeing Tyrion, Dany goes "Usurper's dog burn him with fireeee!"
Tyrion says something to the effect of "like daddy, like daughter, mad as hatter"
This does nothing to improve Dany's temper, but Barristan finally unloads the story of Aerys II on her to save the Imp (esp. if Imp and 2nd sons help him in the battle).


After that Dany either implodes or finally comes to grips with the Targaryen heritage - and not only the good bits.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:50 AM

"Tyrion Lannister? LANNISTER?
USURPERSSSSS DAUGGGG DRACARRRYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSS!"

the end.

Edited by Jon's Queen Consort, 24 March 2013 - 04:54 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 04:52 AM

Judging by the spoiler chapters
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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:01 AM

"Tyrion Lannister? LANNISTER?
USURPERSSSSS DAUGGGG DRACARRRYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSS!"


"Drogon? DRACARYS! DRACARYS! Don't let him scratc you behind the ears, I said DRACARYS! Viserion, Rhaegal, what is ithis? DRACARYS!!!!"

#10 Grand Maester Mithrandir

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:01 AM

Judging by the spoiler chapters

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Something about that whole scenario gets me thinking about Lann the Clever /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:05 AM

"Drogon? DRACARYS! DRACARYS! Don't let him scratc you behind the ears, I said DRACARYS! Viserion, Rhaegal, what is ithis? DRACARYS!!!!"

Ha ha ha ha! ROTFLMAO /lmao.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lmao:' /> /lol.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':lol:' /> /rofl2.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rofl:' /> That was really good! I needed a good laugh!

Thank you!

#12 Lummel

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:13 AM

Something about that whole scenario gets me thinking about Lann the Clever /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />

Lann the Clever is the other role model there for Tyrion. Sometimes he very consciously channels the spirit of Tywin, but playing tricks on people is a strong part of his nature too.

Part of Tyrion's story in ADWD has been role reversals. From freeman to captive, from captive to equal, from freeman to slave, from slave to Lord of Casterly Rock. Perhaps there will be a reversal from his quest to find to find Daenerys and ingratiate himself with her to her having to ingratiate and bargain with Tyrion.

That could well be the case since there are two rogue dragons on the loose in Meereen and Tyrion is meant to be our dragon expert!

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:20 AM

Plus there are policing problems in Meereen and Tyrion is pretty apt at them as well...

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:20 AM

Lann the Clever is the other role model there for Tyrion. Sometimes he very consciously channels the spirit of Tywin, but playing tricks on people is a strong part of his nature too.

Part of Tyrion's story in ADWD has been role reversals. From freeman to captive, from captive to equal, from freeman to slave, from slave to Lord of Casterly Rock. Perhaps there will be a reversal from his quest to find to find Daenerys and ingratiate himself with her to her having to ingratiate and bargain with Tyrion.

That could well be the case since there are two rogue dragons on the loose in Meereen and Tyrion is meant to be our dragon expert!


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Edited by Silverin, 24 March 2013 - 05:20 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:38 AM

Tyrion might be accepted by Daenerys, because she knows she can make use of him. He has great knowledge about the Seven Kingdoms and the current standings of the Great Houses there.

Or he might get a cold reception, and promptly get kicked out of the city or imprisoned. He is a Lannister, after all. And we all know how much Dany hates " The Usurper's Dogs. /rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rolleyes:' />

She's kind of a wildcard, so who knows what could happen.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:38 AM

Judging by the spoiler chapters

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Theoretically if he is part of Barristan Selmy's Council upon returning to Mereen, then perhaps she will have to begrudgingly accept him.

Edited by Rapsie, 24 March 2013 - 05:40 AM.


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Posted 24 March 2013 - 05:50 AM

"Tyrion Lannister? LANNISTER?
USURPERSSSSS DAUGGGG DRACARRRYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSS!"

the end.


I like to image that she nods to Jorah who then in an attempt to win her favor tosses Tyrion in the air with Drogon snatching him out of the air like a dog with a doggy treat.

But, seriously because he is Tyrion she will probably allow him to live and join forces.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 06:00 AM

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Theoretically if he is part of Barristan Selmy's Council upon returning to Mereen, then perhaps she will have to begrudgingly accept him.

But do you think Barristan will accept him? After all he was shamed by Lannisters, so I doubt he will be quick to take him in.

Or maybe Barristan will be impressed with his Battle of Blackwater tactics. /dunno.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dunno:' />

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 06:03 AM

But do you think Barristan will accept him? After all he was shamed by Lannisters, so I doubt he will be quick to take him in.

Or maybe Barristan will be impressed with his Battle of Blackwater tactics. /dunno.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':dunno:' />


Would Barristan even know about Tyrion's role in Blackwater? Seeing wasn't Tywin the one who won all the praise after the battle?

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 06:16 AM

Barristan would see how useful he would be in terms of info about what's happening in Westeros and finding out "Aegon" is alive.