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Azor Ahai is Born Again in Three?


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Hello everyone! After spending so much time in this forum, I've decided to join and share my ideas. This is my first post and I simply can't wait what you guys have to add!

My theory is simply Azor Ahai is reborn in three people,not just one. You all know the prophecy recounted by Melisandre, and additionally the one from the woods witch(Ghost of High Heart). Everyone is looking for one person but remember the frustration of Prince Rhaegar when told Alia Martell cannot bear another childbirth. He says "The Dragon has three heads,there must be one more". We know he was obsessed with the PtwP thing, and there's a hint that when he was a boy he read something about the prophecy. Following this, no candidate proves true for everything said in the prophecy but some candidates prove true partially. I have to add, I didn't build my theory solely based on prophecies, I did use some extra details. Here are my candidates :

1 - Daenerys Targaryen

  • The prophecy are made by dragons,who are neither male or female. PtwP doesn't have to be a man.
  • She was born on Dragonstone providing salt and reborn as Mother of Dragons in fire,providing smoke.
  • She is the one who woke the dragons from stone

2 - Jon Snow

  • According to the Woods Witch,the PtwP will be born from the line of Mad King and Rhaella. Accepting Jon's father is Rhaegar, he fits in.
  • In a dream he sees himself fighting with the Others, holding a sword burning with flames.
  • By warning the Castle Black he indirectly caused Ygritte's death. He chose his duty over his love, which might be a Nissa Nissa connection.
  • When Melisandre looks into her fires for Azor Ahai, she sees only things about Jon or snow.
  • He's the only one who's preparing for a war against Others.

3 - Brandon Stark

  • When Old Nan tales the story of the Last Hero(which is interrupted by Maester Luwin),he says the Last Hero went to look for help of CotF,as he believed their magic could win back the armies of men had lost. As a greenseer Bran is the only one who has access to the knowledge of CotF's magic and the knowledge men had forgotten.
  • Him being the third part of PtwP wouldn't make the Ghost of High Heart's prophecy wrong, as the previous two are born from the line of Mad King and Rhaella's line.
  • In his dream with Three-eyed Crow, he's shown beyond the Lands of Always Winter and he's horrified by the things he's seen. And then,Three-Eyed Crow says him that's why he must live,because the Winter is Coming.
  • As a Stark,who are descendants of the First Men, it would make sense for PtwP to carry some First Men blood in him. Because the first war against the Others was fought by First Men, who were the inhabitants of Westeros along with the CotT

Okay guys that's it. I apologize if anyone before me proposed this theory(or a close one)and for the mistakes of language.(I'm not a native speaker of English). And as I said before, I can't wait for your opinions. You guys are great!

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I don't place too much on THREE heads. If the Rhaegar vision in the HotU is 100% true, Rhaegar was certain that Aegon was the PtwP, "but the dragon has three heads". My theory is that Rhaegar assumed Aegon was the PtwP simply because he was male. "the dragon has three heads" might have been an additional statement he read concerning tPtwP prophesy and so he was hell-bent on having a third child because 3 children were the recipe for making the prophesy come true.

But what if the prophesy mentioned "three heads" not because there needs to be three, but because the THIRD child is the important one. In other words, the "three heads" was just the prophecy's way of making sure Rhaegar didn't stop having children with his sick wife because he landed a son on his second try. The dragon having three heads pushed Rhaegar to seek another wife to make the third child -the important child, the true PtwP.

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Something in me doesn't like Bran as the third head but I can see the whole Ice, Fire, ICE AND FIRE thing. I do almost feel it has to be a secrate Targ out there. I really DON'T like the Tyrion as a secrate Targ but he does work the best. The main protagonists seems to be the Starks, Targs and the Lannisters. Dany would be full Targ and Tyrion and Jon each half Targ with Lannister and Targ Blood respectivley. MAYBE Stannis could be a third head. I never saw any of those theories.

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First post in forums. Sorry for my poor English and please, excuse my faults.

There is truth in your theory, Night´s Watchmen. I also believe there is a clear connection between dragon´s heads, Azor Ahai and the tempered of lightbringerd. And I really believe that another mentions to the number three are more than mere coincidences.

Therer´s an interesting post about the metaphorical sense of the legend of Azor Ahai, suggesting that the tempered of the sword is an allegory of the sexual rellationship. As Lady Dustin says:

"I still remember the look of my maiden's blood on his cock the night he claimed me. I think Brandon liked the sight as well. A bloody sword is a beautiful thing, yes."

Azor Ahai tempered his sword three times. Three. And three are the dragon´s heads. Rhaella Tagaryen had three children: Rhaegar, Viserys and Daenerys.

Joanna Lannister had another three: Cersei, Jaime and Tyrion.

And Rhaegar, if we believe the R+L=J theory, three more: Rhaenys, Agon and Jon

Rhaella, Joanna and Elia died giving birth to Daenerys, Jon and Tyrion.

Daenerys is a Targaryen. Jon is probably a member of the dynasty. And Tyrion?... Remember, he is silver haired, as Targaryen´s; his eyes colour are unpaired, as Sheara Seastar; and there are precedents of monstruous members with Targaryen blood (maybe Duncan the small was really small, as Tyrion). All of them could be Targaryen descendants, children of Rhaegar, Aerys and Rhaella.

Barristan Selmy in Dance of Dragons remembers there was no love between Rhaella and Aerys. Rhaella´s true love was Bonnifer Hasty, from the Stomlands; he fought in Blackwater and the Riverlands, and nowadays is the castellian of Harrenhall; he is connected to the water symbol. I speculate that Rhaella tempered her sword at least three times with Bonnifer Hasty, and lately the failed Lightbringer (Rhaegar) broke in pieces at the Trident.

Second time, Azor Ahai tempered his sword in the heart of a roaring lion. Uh, uh... this clearly refers to Tywin and Joanna Lannister. And there are rumours about the active involvement of Aerys in the embedding of Joanna. Maybe he tempered his sword with her another three times. (Why not? Cerseis has much in common with Aerys. And what a cruel paradox if Tyrion´s parricide could be considered an act of mercy, because Tywin was poisoned by prince Oberyn, meanwhile Aerys assasination, a justified act in Jaime´s mind, were truly a parricide.) Aerys fucked Joanna. Tywin´s children are really Aerys´; children (and Tywin knows!). Tyrion´s birth causes the death of his beloved Joanna, and the final insult: Jaime is knighted as kingsguard, and his dwarf brother becomes the heir of Casterly Rock. Yes... there are enough reasons to provoke the fury of the lion.

Third time, Azor Ahai tempered his sword in his loving Nissa Nissa. I don´;t know if Nissa Nissa is a proper name, but I would like to think that the word "nissa" means "wife";. Targaryens are not only incestuous, also bigamist; maybe Lyanna was not just Rhaegar´s lover, but his wife (this explains why the Kingsguard fought to death in the Tower of Joy: they were protecting the true heir of the kingdom). When Rhaegar tempered his sword lightbringer, he causes a crack in the moon. Maybe this is a reference to moonsingers and wolf´s blood, and the crack is connected to the misfortunes of the Stark family.

I know, I know... This theory is no specially original (it looks like a compendium of previous posts) and I am speculating too much. But the idea of Rhaegar, Rhallea and Aerys as Azor Azai Reborn (thaks to the sacrifice of Aegon V, his son Duncan and his faithful servant and friend Duncan the tall)... Daenerys, Tyrion and Jon as Lightbringer... Jon as the Prince who was promised, and Daenerys and Jon´s son as the Stallion who rides the world... well, it´s not absurd at all and fixes quite well with the prophecies.

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I too suspect Azor Ahai reborn or the price that was promised is a three headed dragon. Daenerys is obvious (and the Dothraki "Sea" provides the salt, no? Jon is too. That last scene is weird and Martin definitely clearly adds the salt in Marsh's tears and the smoke--wasn't Jon's blood smoking when it hit the snow? When he wakes it will be as a dragon--the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna. Brandon is tougher to fit since he doesn't appear to be of the line of Rhaegar's dad. But he has everyrthing else--don't forget the dragon that Summer saw. Maybe Brandon really will fly. I'd like that. He could fly right over Jamie and and roast him. Assuming Jamie survives the forthcoming encounter with Uncat and the Brotherhood.

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I was just wondering though, is the whole 3 heads thing tied into any prophecy? The only time I ever saw it mentioned was in Dany's vision of Rhaegar and Aegon. It seems to be more of a Targ thing than an actual prophecy, and I wonder if it will carry any meaning going forward. Aemon didn't really mention 3 heads at all when he referred to the PwwP prophecy. This makes me think it was more of a Targ thing derived from Aegons conquest (he and his sisters= 3 headed dragon) which occurred 300 years ago, way way after the supposed origins of the prophecies. The more I think about it the more I get confused how AA/PwwP is linked to the 3 headed dragon thing. I think its Rhaegar making the link when the ghost of high heart said PwwP would be born of Aerys' line, but still that doesn't mean that there are 3 heads of the dragon and one is PwwP

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Much more plausible with Tyrion as the third candidate. I am very interested to see whether he will end up having something equivalent to Daenerys and Jon when it comes to resurrection in one form or another. Their births already mirror each other, which is certainly not coincidental.

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hmm yes, for a while now i have suspected something like this...

What about Stannis? Mel seems to think he's AA reborn - maybe she was partially right. He's not of the line of Aerys and Rhaella but he does have targaryen blood in him (his grandmother was Rhaelle targaryen, the daughter of Aegon V, so some form of cousin to Aerys and Rhaegar).

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