Roose The Weddingcrasher Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 No more than GRRM himself.Exactly. It's important that it's made clear first what discussions are about: What was the author's idea behind the character vs how do we judge the character objectively. I think that the numerous discussions about Dany don't come to any conclusion, because one side defends the idea behind her, while the other accuses her based on how she is seen from a rather objective pov, disregarding the author's intent, when actually the latter should be the subject of the discussions instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Exactly. It's important that it's made clear first what discussions are about: What was the author's idea behind the character vs how do we judge the character objectively. I think that the numerous discussions about Dany don't come to any conclusion, because one side defends the idea behind her, while the other accuses her based on how she is seen from a rather objective pov, disregarding the author's intent, when actually the latter should be the subject of the discussions instead.Partially. GRRM writes on multiple layers simultaneously. We've got to distinguish between the PoV's biases, the in-world objective happenings, the social standards of Planetos, the social standards of Earth, the tropes of literature, the scientific base (as much as somebody with access to a bunch of books, but not a scientist himself would create) and the author's intent. GRRM loves to show something in the PoV to be true, leave some small clues that it's wrong (pseudo-scientific ones as well) and have it smack somebody in the face three books later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avimimus Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 What would be cool is an endgame between a madtarg Jon and a madtarg Dany with everyone else going ?wtf? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Rhaegar was mad. He had the whole Kingsguard at his disposal excluding Jaime. Yet he tried to 1v1 Bobbert.Its not like Robert beat him easily. Rhaegar wounded Robert, and definitely made a good fight of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 That wacky Rhaegar. Dragons and prophecies? Lol. Next he'll tell us that wartgs and wights and giants and green seers and unicorns exist. What a maroon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Chang Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 That wacky Rhaegar. Dragons and prophecies? Lol. Next he'll tell us that wartgs and wights and giants and green seers and unicorns exist. What a maroon. :agree: Exactamundo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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