[Book Spoilers] No Patchface?

[Tall Tyrion Lannister!]

Patchface is annoying, so i'm cool with this change.

[Lady Arwen]

I would be delighted if they chose to omit Patchface. Nothing is scarier than a loopy, prophetic jester who knows too much.

[gash]

There are no fools in this show, no Moonboy, no Butterbumps, and they cut out Dontos very quickly, so why were any of you expecting Patchface?

patchface is much more than just a fool.

[MyLittleDirewolf]

Patchface is creepy as hell. I really don't need to see him on screen. He scares me.

[gash]

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[Zman1863]

People really wanted Patchface in the show? Some things just don't translate well to screen, and Patchface is one of them. He would look incredibly stupid.

These are my feelings on it as well. Fools are one of those cliched aspects of medieval fantasy that I can tolerate in a book but would rather be left out of a TV or movie. They need to trim plenty from the books to fit the material into the confines that HBO has given them, and this is one cut that is fairly straightforward to me.

[Capt. Zemblanity]

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This was really unnecessary. ;) I am going to have nightmares tonight, for real.

I think Shireen is replacing Patchface. I am fine with that, too. Patchface scares me. I don't think anyone (but us) are paying attention to her songs, so maybe we'll get something fun. I am the queen of wishful thinking.

[Words of Winter]

These are my feelings on it as well. Fools are one of those cliched aspects of medieval fantasy that I can tolerate in a book but would rather be left out of a TV or movie. They need to trim plenty from the books to fit the material into the confines that HBO has given them, and this is one cut that is fairly straightforward to me.

:agree: I find him one of the most annoying characters in the book, but only now realize that his sayings were prophetic. :bang:

That said, even the songs don't translate well to screen, especially the I know oh oh oh. I hope there isn't more significance to his character as others have suggested. Then D&D, if they get that far, will have a 'merenesse knot' of their own.

[Patchface Targaryen]

My theory took a big hit with this character combination.

[GoodGuyA]

Now I forget how Shireen got greyscale and how Patchface claimed his prophetic visions, but don't these both involve falling off a boat? I remember Patchface was the survivor of a voyage with no one else, but they could merge the two stories together in that way.

[Patchface Targaryen]

Now I forget how Shireen got greyscale and how Patchface claimed his prophetic visions, but don't these both involve falling off a boat? I remember Patchface was the survivor of a voyage with no one else, but they could merge the two stories together in that way.

I think Shireen was born with it. Griff got greyscale in ADWD by jumping off a boat you may be thinking of.

Patchface was the only survivor of the shipwreck that killed Robert/Stannis/Renly's father.

[stiff_pirates]

accident

[stiff_pirates]

Here is my immediate thoughts:

Birds have scales: Crows get grayscale

Fish have wings: greyjoy(s) ride dragons

The rain is dry: Meteors?

Snow falls up: Either a bastard from the north going up the ranks, possibly to the throne, or a bastard from the north getting gripped up by a dragon and thrown upwards

Stones crack open: Castles getting destroyed

Water Burns: Wildfire? Blackwater?

Shadows: Mellisandres shadow baby, who knows...

Why would 'fish' refer to Greyjoy and not Tully?

[shiola]

Birds have scales refers to dragons, it is known.

[Titan]

Birds have scales refers to dragons, it is known.

Indeed, that is the most obvious explanation of that line.

[Blackhaven]

They just need to be sure to have a Cersei / Moonboy scene.

[Dove]

They just need to be sure to have a Cersei / Moonboy scene.

If only for the payoff of Tommen wanting to name one of the war galleys after him. Ahahahaha. Best king.

[Lord Godric]

Can I ask...why does it suck that Patchface is gone?

[MarieAntoinette]

I'm torn on the lack of patchface. On the one hand if done right he could have been super creepy and awesome, on the other hand he would probably ended up looking and sounding silly on screen.

[The Roose is Loose]

In my personal book nerd fantasy interpretation, I like to think that Patchface is off-screen at Dragonstone, and Shireen is just repeating what she's heard from him. Realistically, they've probably written him out of the show. Oh well. As much as I like Patchface in the books, I do like Shireen innocently singing his creepy rhymes, so I'll focus my nit picky nerd rage elsewhere.

As for not translating well to the screen, I agree that as written, it wouldn't work - his cowbells would be extremely distracting and drown out dialogue, etc. However, I think he could have been modified to be more tv friendly, like they did with Jaqen's hair, or Bran in the cart instead of on Hodor's back.