Madhur Singh Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 My question pertains to page 678 in Dance with Dragons when Rowan chastises Theon for uttering the words of House Stark. I was under the impression that wildlings did not have much love for the North and the spearwives were being forced into this by Melisandre. Why would he care if Theon said the words of House Stark? Is Rowan a northerner and not a wildling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Who is this Rowan? I don't recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion of Judah Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Isn't Rowan a she?ETA: If I remember correctly she is a wildling spearwife, I could be wrong about that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousGeorge Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Who is this Rowan? I don't recall.One of the wildlings with Mance/Abel. @OP no one knows really. Some people think that its just because what Theon is supposed to have done is so bad that everyone sort of feels the severity of his betrayal, whereas others think that there is some sort of grudging (or even just mutual) respect between the Starks and Wildlings. And yeah the fact that she is a spearwife is sort of a giveaway that Rowan is a she. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Ah I see. The "he" threw me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Melnibonean Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 One of the wildlings with Mance/Abel. @OP no one knows really. Some people think that its just because what Theon is supposed to have done is so bad that everyone sort of feels the severity of his betrayal, whereas others think that there is some sort of grudging (or even just mutual) respect between the Starks and Wildlings. And yeah the fact that she is a spearwife is sort of a giveaway that Rowan is a she.^This. Think about Osha and well she guarded the young princes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarl the climber Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 My question pertains to page 678 in Dance with Dragons when Rowan chastises Theon for uttering the words of House Stark. I was under the impression that wildlings did not have much love for the North and the spearwives were being forced into this by Melisandre. Why would he care if Theon said the words of House Stark? Is Rowan a northerner and not a wildling?Another factor might be that she has been spending time talking to various northmen who have expressed their contempt for Theon in no uncertian terms and that its starting to rub off on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DarkSister1001 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I also found that odd. Not only that a wildling would know a House words, but using them to chastising someone. The Starks fought wildlings, I can see no good reason for her to respond the way she did. It didn't seem like an act, she seemed just as protective of the Starks as the Mormont girl and Manderly's granddaughter. Didn't one of the Umbers daughters get carried off by a wildling years before? Crackpot: maybe this is her? That would parallel nicely with the story of Bael/Abel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I also found that odd. Not only that a wildling would know a House words, but using them to chastising someone. The Starks fought wildlings, I can see no good reason for her to respond the way she did. It didn't seem like an act, she seemed just as protective of the Starks as the Mormont girl and Manderly's granddaughter. Didn't one of the Umbers daughters get carried off by a wildling years before? Crackpot: maybe this is her? That would parallel nicely with the story of Bael/Abel too. This is one of the better theories, that Rowan has ties to the North and isn't "just" a wildling. That might have even been why Mance selected her to go, if he knew she had other kin in the North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSister1001 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 This is one of the better theories, that Rowan has ties to the North and isn't "just" a wildling. That might have even been why Mance selected her to go, if he knew she had other kin in the North. It was the only thing that made sense to me. At first I thought it was just a way for GRRM to come down on Theon but that's not really his style. Abel returning the daughter to the Umber to build trust. IIRC Abel and Mors(? I mix up my Umbers) were talking a bit secretively. It would also still fit the GNC theory (I'm a subscriber). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kompaya Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 It was the only thing that made sense to me. At first I thought it was just a way for GRRM to come down on Theon but that's not really his style. Abel returning the daughter to the Umber to build trust. IIRC Abel and Mors(? I mix up my Umbers) were talking a bit secretively. It would also still fit the GNC theory (I'm a subscriber).You noy seen 'the mannifesto'? Cantuse's wordpress. He lays it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSister1001 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 You noy seen 'the mannifesto'? Cantuse's wordpress. He lays it all out. No I haven't. Don't laugh...what's Cantuse wordpress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mithras Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I think she is Crowfood's daughter or grand daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kompaya Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 No I haven't. Don't laugh...what's Cantuse wordpress?Cantuse.wordpress and comaward winning reddit theoriest with his collection of theories o his own site. Youve got why rowan is an umber and what shes up to everything covered. Ive checked out alot of fan theories but the mannifesto has impressed me the most. Check it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemused Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I think she is Crowfood's daughter or grand daughter. This is very likely. When you start to think of it, some possibilities of eluding capture begin to emerge for Mance and the spearwives... Mance may have his ruby cuff with him and if so, could change his appearance to that of Rattleshirt , a smaller , ordinary looking, even homely man. (It's odd that Rattleshirt is given a much more detailed description than Mance, so I'll be looking for him)... If Myrtle is The Liddle, she could become a man.. Rowan might have "Uncle Whoresbane" to help conceal her.. Squirrel might well be able to hide up a tree in the Godswood ( as Wex did). But poor Holly is already done for, and I don't hold out much hope for Frenya (still, she might suicide rather than be taken, if the stories about spearwives are true). That would only leave Willow without a possible port in the storm (that we know of)..and she could still have many sympathizers inside WF, once the escape becomes known. It might not work out for all of them, but I'm betting it will for some, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuff89 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 You noy seen 'the mannifesto'? Cantuse's wordpress. He lays it all out. Would you please be so kind to point out the exact page in which he does? 'cause he has some big website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSister1001 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Cantuse.wordpress and comaward winning reddit theoriest with his collection of theories o his own site. Youve got why rowan is an umber and what shes up to everything covered. Ive checked out alot of fan theories but the mannifesto has impressed me the most. Check itAh, thanks! I'll have to add it to my favorites and get to it when they other 5000 tabs of theories are done. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kompaya Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Would you please be so kind to point out the exact page in which he does? 'cause he has some big website.its in the alliance of giants of kings sections. Paragraph: a giants daughter. Now go readit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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