[SPOILERS] Shae

[The Mighty Conch]

So this episode we see the Tyrion-Sansa wedding and of course everyone expects Tyrion to consummate the marriage, which he doesn't. Shae is of course upset at Tyrion for getting married and having sex with a "little girl" and not staying faithful to her (I guess).

BUT THEN when Shae goes to change the sheets and realizes that Tyrion has not had sex with her she seems proud of him and does not seem to bear any bad will to him. SO HOW IN THE WORLD WILL:

Shae betray Tyrion by witnessing against him in the trial and sleeping with Tywin?

Let me know how you guys think this will play out.

[Faceless Sam]

she's playing him for the lifestyle. her facial expression is actually one of triumph and not relief. works for me.

[six]

Shae is deluded; she actually thinks she has a chance of a life with Tyrion. At first it was cute and understandable, now he's married it's beginning to look pathetic tbh.

she's playing him for the lifestyle. her facial expression is actually one of triumph and not relief. works for me.

I didn't interpret it that way. She seemed genuinely surprised and relieved, and then looked at Tyrion and smiled at him. She's in love. I don't have a huge problem with her being in love, but I have a problem with the fact she actually thinks she could be anything more than a girl on the side for Tyrion. It makes her appear stupid, and maybe that's how she's supposed to come across. Still, it's hard to feel for stupid characters.

[ServantOnIce]

In the books Shae only did what she did because she was selfish. She wanted something for herself. In the TV show I don't know where they will go with less unless she thinks Sansa and Tyrion are falling in love or they actually copulate.

[Former Lord of Winterfell]

In the books Shae only did what she did because she was selfish. She wanted something for herself. In the TV show I don't know where they will go with less unless she thinks Sansa and Tyrion are falling in love or they actually copulate.

Book Shae had no real problem betraying Tyrion even though he never consummated the marriage, so I don't see any reason HBO Shae would either.

[SilentSense]

HBO Shae is different person though. I was expecting the show to make it obvious Tywin is forcing her to talk at the trial and for Tywin to end up killing her...until Tyrion got her that gold chain.

[Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom]

Shae will be offered a marriage to a landed knight, it's way more to be Tyrion's mistress

she would be a noble, Tyrion couldn't do it for her even with all Casterly Rock's gold

[The Mighty Conch]

Book Shae had no real problem betraying Tyrion even though he never consummated the marriage, so I don't see any reason HBO Shae would either.

That's the thing though, I dont think they have done a good job of making it seem that Shae is very selfish. A post earlier stated it made her seem in love, which I agree with, and that brings into question how or even why she would betray tyrion.

I mean, I feel like we have to completely divorce book Shae from what is being portrayed. I think they are too different. I feel like that making Shae genuinely in love with Tyrion is the straw that broke the proverbial camel's back for me.

Maybe I am wrong, and they will do an about-face...

[Kienn]

I don't get how people presume to know so much about Shae in the books, we never get her PoV and there's lots of reasons for her to do what she did... I just leave it for what it is, a toss-up until we somehow get more info.

[YTDN]

Well, when Shae betrays Tyrion it will be after he's been arrested and Sansa's fled, so Shae will be left up the creek without a paddle. Cersei will probably figure out that Shae is Tyrion's 'whore', and Shae will be left with a dilemma: get killed for the sake of a man who (in her mind) wouldn't do the same for her, or sell him out for survival.

[Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom]

Well, when Shae betrays Tyrion it will be after he's been arrested and Sansa's fled, so Shae will be left up the creek without a paddle. Cersei will probably figure out that Shae is Tyrion's 'whore', and Shae will be left with a dilemma: get killed for the sake of a man who (in her mind) wouldn't do the same for her, or sell him out for survival.

I agree partialy

in the books she ended up in Lord Tywin's bed? why?

if it was just a way of surviving, why bedding Lord Tywin?

[mrunderhill]

I didn't interpret it that way. She seemed genuinely surprised and relieved, and then looked at Tyrion and smiled at him. She's in love. I don't have a huge problem with her being in love, but I have a problem with the fact she actually thinks she could be anything more than a girl on the side for Tyrion. It makes her appear stupid, and maybe that's how she's supposed to come across. Still, it's hard to feel for stupid characters.

Book Shae was not in love, but she was far more naive that the Show. Book Shae really seems to believe that Tyrion can marry her and make his lady.

[YTDN]

I agree partialy

in the books she ended up in Lord Tywin's bed? why?

if it was just a way of surviving, why bedding Lord Tywin?

Maybe when Tywin speaks to her she tries seducing him so he won't kill her. Or something. It's never explained in the books.

[A Man Is A Man]

I've always interpreted Shae as being someone that was maybe hired by Tywin to spy/betray Tyrion from the very beginning (and that's one of the reasons why she's sharing Tywin's bed in the end). I've always interpreted her "love" for Tyrion as just being a role that she is playing and there's no reason to think Show-Shae is any different. She reveals her true colors in the end, and Tyrion kills her for it.

[JMJ]

Show Shae is getting more and more annoying. I am sick of those wounded/angry looks she keeps giving Tyrion. Makes me look forward to the scene in Tywin's bed at the end of ASOS. Man, I hope they keep that scene...

[lostinwesteros]

she's playing him for the lifestyle. her facial expression is actually one of triumph and not relief. works for me.

My take on it exactly. For one who was pretty ballsy to start with, she's getting even bolder. She wouldn't leave Sansa's room when Tyrion came to break the marriage news last episode, stormed right in their room pretty furiously in this episode, and the look I read on her face was definitely one of smug satisfaction.

She had become fairly delusional and come to count on a relatively 'pie in the sky' position, but the events of the last couple of episodes have punctured a huge hole in that. She's had to face the reality of things a bit more, and she is royally, ahem, pissed. HBO Shae has been presented in such a golden, ahem, light that I was wondering how they would ever turn her around to show the betrayer she turns out to be. I was afraid HBO would leave out that part (in which case I was going to be livid), but maybe this is just how they're going to engineer the change in Shae.

[Greywolf2375]

I agree partialy

in the books she ended up in Lord Tywin's bed? why?

if it was just a way of surviving, why bedding Lord Tywin?

There's two main theories:

1) Tywin is a hypocrite and has been making use of prostitutes on his own (the Hand who had the tunnel to the brothel built). If Shae has a chance of surviving, aligning herself to the most powerful person in the realm isn't a bad way of doing it.

2) Shae is set up by Varys and planted in the bed to make Tyrion even more angry and resentful.

How the show will end up handling it? Who knows.

[Janicia]

It is really hard to imagine Tywin and Shae in bed together. I can imagine this Shae betraying Tyrion at the trial and making a mockery of him, but sleeping with Tywin? And Tywin sleeping with her?

[brandino]

Am I the only one who thinks that Shae is already sleeping with Tywin? Thus her 'jealousy' is her trying to push Tyrion away so he won't be so upset whenever he finds out?

[Theda Baratheon]

No. The way the show is handling this is a 'love story' whereas in the books I never trusted Shae, I always knew she would betray Tyrion at some point. Her character is much different in the show.