The Frosted King Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Why?Because he nearly killed a known great warrior with a weapon that was secondary to his skillset.Said warrior he nearly killed, was driven by love, and ole Bobby still nearly slew him.Can't see Jaime being deadly with a war hammer or long spear, but we know Robert was sick with the sword, even though he preferred the hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 He was the best by hype. Dude was a living legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Robert's Warhammer Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Absolutely he was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I think Dayne, Selmy, and Jaime would all have a decent chance at beating him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallTale Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Robert had the single greatest moment a warrior has ever had in Westeros.He won the realm, war, and bested his rival all in one powerful strike.All hail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leagon Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Robert's warhammer was his primary weapon. There's nothing to indicate he was more skilled with the sword than the warhammer.He was absolutely among the greatest of his era, though. I've always felt people overrate Rhaegar (and therefore overrate Robert's victory over Rhaegar) a bit, but his size, strength, reputation and battlefield performances speak for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frosted King Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 I think Dayne, Selmy, and Jaime would all have a decent chance at beating him.Doubt it. He was sick with a sword AND a demon with his hammer.He sounds like a guy gifted in killing.They were as well, but i see them as one trick ponies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frosted King Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 Robert's warhammer was his primary weapon. There's nothing to indicate he was more skilled with the sword than the warhammer.He was absolutely among the greatest of his era, though. I've always felt people overrate Rhaegar (and therefore overrate Robert's victory over Rhaegar) a bit, but his size, strength, reputation and battlefield performances speak for themselves.Thanks for making my point again. He nearly slew Jon Connington on the steps of the brothel with a SWORD, when we know his primary was the hammer.I can't see any of the other greats being half as deadly with a hammer or spear, yet Bobby boy was sick enough with a sword to soundly defeat a great knight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oba Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I think the quote that sums up young Robert is in one of Dany's chapters in Book 2:They said Robert Baratheon was strong as a bull and fearless in battle, a man who loved nothing better than war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Doubt it. He was sick with a sword AND a demon with his hammer.He sounds like a guy gifted in killing.They were as well, but i see them as one trick ponies.I think Dayne using Dawn could win, but that's me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordouche Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I personally think Arthur Dayne is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beorn Snow Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Rhaegar may be overrated but he won the tournament at Harrenhall, and Barristan later regretted not having been able to beat him (meaning that he really tried his best). That means that whatever the hype Rhaegar was pretty good.Robert won him, but we also need to assess the conditions. In favorable conditions an average warrior can defeat a superior warrior. I don´t doubt that the 3 kingsguard Ned and HR defeated at TOJ were better than the northmen, but there is superiority in numbers.Bobby was a great warrior, but was he disciplined? I think he is probably like a good sportsman that succumbs to drinking before he really became one of the best. That being said, his rebellion and his squash of the iron isles are worthy accomplishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Wasn't his primary weapon his warhammer?And yes, Robert was a beast in battle. But I thought Rhaegar did some pretty good damage to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leagon Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Thanks for making my point again.He nearly slew Jon Connington on the steps of the brothel with a SWORD, when we know his primary was the hammer.I can't see any of the other greats being half as deadly with a hammer or spear, yet Bobby boy was sick enough with a sword to soundly defeat a great knight.Oooh. I thought you were talking about Rhaegar, not JonCon. OP, was a bit confusing. My fault.Huh. I'd never thought of that. I don't remember JonCon being all that fearsome of a warrior, but its still a very impressive victory to beat a knight with a secondary weapon (and likely still injured, as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrunderhill Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Robert's warhammer was his primary weapon. There's nothing to indicate he was more skilled with the sword than the warhammer.He was absolutely among the greatest of his era, though. I've always felt people overrate Rhaegar (and therefore overrate Robert's victory over Rhaegar) a bit, but his size, strength, reputation and battlefield performances speak for themselves.Yes Robert never ever used any blade except for the one Jon Aryyn gave him."No doubt. The only blade he ever used was the hunting knife he had from Jon Arryn, when he was a boy."Robert was one of the best warriors of his time, but he was not as good as Dayne, Selmy Jaime or even Sandor in my opinion.Rhaegar was good, but certainly not on the elite level. Robert defeated him, but took a wound so severe it kept him out of the rest of the war.“The Sword of the Morning!” said Dany, delighted. “Viserys used to talk about his wondrous white blade. He said Ser Arthur was the only knight in the realm who was our brother’s peer.”Whitebeard bowed his head. “It is not my place to question the words of Prince Viserys.”“King,” Dany corrected. “He was a king, though he never reigned. Viserys, the Third of His Name. But what do you mean?” His answer had not been one that she’d expected. “Ser Jorah named Rhaegar the last dragon once. He had to have been a peerless warrior to be called that, surely?”“Your Grace,” said Whitebeard, “the Prince of Dragonstone was a most puissant warrior, but . . .”Selmy is holding back, but he clearly does not consider Rhaegar on the highest tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frosted King Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share Posted June 1, 2013 Oooh. I thought you were talking about Rhaegar, not JonCon. OP, was a bit confusing. My fault.Huh. I'd never thought of that. I don't remember JonCon being all that fearsome of a warrior, but its still a very impressive victory to beat a knight with a secondary weapon (and likely still injured, as well).That's why I'M king, and you're just some guy named Leagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggs Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Selmy objected to the belief that a warrior could be peerless or unbeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 :blushing: :dunce: Was this warrior, who was nearly killed by Robert, Connington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nami Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 I think Rhaegar was better than Jaime. I don't think Jaime would really be challenge to Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrunderhill Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 Rhaegar may be overrated but he won the tournament at Harrenhall, and Barristan later regretted not having been able to beat him (meaning that he really tried his best). That means that whatever the hype Rhaegar was pretty good.Robert won him, but we also need to assess the conditions. In favorable conditions an average warrior can defeat a superior warrior. I don´t doubt that the 3 kingsguard Ned and HR defeated at TOJ were better than the northmen, but there is superiority in numbers.Bobby was a great warrior, but was he disciplined? I think he is probably like a good sportsman that succumbs to drinking before he really became one of the best. That being said, his rebellion and his squash of the iron isles are worthy accomplishments.Jousting is not fighting one on one. Jousting is mostly horsemanship according to many. Dunk for instance was a poor jouster, but a great swordsman whilst Glendon Flowers was an excellent joust, but not an excellent swordsman.Robert did not succumb to drink until at least after Balon's rebellion. So I don't think it is fair to say he never fulfilled his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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