Khal Pono Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 First of all, it sounds like a C++ or Unix function or something.Secondly, it's agrammatical and awkward. In English, we don't generally use the prefix un- for nouns. There may be a few exceptions, but we generally use the prefix for verbs (unscrew, etc.) and adjectives (unkind, etc.).Who coined the name? I'm going to slap that person. Is it supposed to be short for Undead Catelyn? Can't we just call her Stoneheart, if Lady Stoneheart is too long for you? Or how about ReCat for Resurrected Cat.But ReCat also sounds like a Unix command.Thank you for your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 So do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Pono Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 You know, the whole joke in Alice in Wonderland about how every day that's not your birthday is your "unbirthday" is that it sounds childish and ridiculous.It's not a natural construction in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grip Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Never really thought about it to be honest, I agree though that (Lady) Stoneheart is preferable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Pono Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 AntiCat and Bizarro-Cat would be fine as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Lady Stoneheart makes it sound like there may be some lady left in there when there isn't. UnCat is just quicker to write. If I'm writing a long post with several references to her I use UnCat, but if just mentioning her a time or two I go with Stoneheart.AntiCat and Bizarro-Cat would be fine as well.And you think UnCat sounds childish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Pono Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 Lady Stoneheart makes it sound like there may be some lady left in there when there isn't. UnCat is just quicker to write. If I'm writing a long post with several references to her I use UnCat, but if just mentioning her a time or two I go with Stoneheart.And you think UnCat sounds childish?Well, I (naturally) like my ideas because Anticat sounds serious and historical/mythical (like Antichrist or Antipope) and Bizarro-Cat is at least a funny Superman reference. UnCat is just ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindsie Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Yeah I usually say Stoneheart as well, I must admit when I read UnCat the first time, there was a massive eye roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Pono Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 How about PseudoCat or QuasiCat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I have to admit this has to be the first post on grammatical aesthetics that has ever been posted on here. The first I have read anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecryptile Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 How about PseudoCat or QuasiCat?I wish you'd posted this back before I joined up, my screen-name would be PseudoCat instead of thecryptile, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I don't see the problem. Uncat is easier to type and it simply means an undead Catelyn. There are some nouns using the un- prefix: unhappiness, unkindness, the undead etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I wish you'd posted this back before I joined up, my screen-name would be PseudoCat instead of thecryptile, lol.You can change it if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Freypie Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Changing a diminutive with any term including more letters won't work.Popularising the use of "LS" is your only chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalOfDorne Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 I've always preferred Lady Stoneheart, but I can see why people prefer "Uncat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood of the dragoon Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 What about frankenCat?It sounds monstrous (though in Frankenstein society is the monster), and carries the whole 'resurrected but not really the same person' motif with it.'Eta. Though i guess we could go with 'the lady formerly known as cat' which would be written as an unpronouncable symbol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 It's simply a play on the term "undead" in that "Uncat" sounds similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Pono Posted June 7, 2013 Author Share Posted June 7, 2013 There are some nouns using the un- prefix: unhappiness, unkindness, the undead etc.I could pick these examples apart, but I won't; no, just kidding, I will.Unhappiness and unkindness are derived from the words unhappy and unkind. The un- was added to the adjective, not the noun. To see what I mean, try replacing the words unhappy and unkind with synonyms that do not contain -un, and see if it still works. Let's try "sad" or "mean" and change them to sadness and meanness. Can we say UNsadness or UNmeanness? Certainly not. So the un part of unhappiness does not come from adding un- to the noun happiness; it comes from adding un- to the adjective happy.Also the term "the undead" only really works with the article "the". Otherwise "undead" becomes an adjective by itself. We would say "I just bought a sword to fight THE undead" or "I just bought a magic sword to fight undead vampires". It would be far more awkward to say "I want to fight undead." It is a special class of noun that is only a noun because you put "the" in front of the adjective. Like we could say: "I like to abuse the homeless." but not "I like to abuse homeless."So I don't like your examples. They were really unexamples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Yeah well I hateawesomebadass..like a bossfist pumpdouchelaughed out loud (always at things only a cretin would think warranted more than a small smile)'who would win a fight between'...redemptionredemption arcstory arcrightful (king/queen)so count yourself lucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecryptile Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 You can change it if you want.I probably will when we can access profiles again, so I can have a cat avatar. I'll have to change my member title, too. PseudoCat fits nicely with a Known Space Kzinti reference...@Khal Pono, unsad et al. reminds me of Orwell's Newspeak from 1984.@Castellan the boards must be tough going given your tastes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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