Napyura Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Edric has no claim, especially not over Shireen.Yea forgot a moment about her at all and edited a moment before you replied.Currently it's Tommen --> Myrcella --> Stannis --> Shireen, though it should be Stannis --> Shireen, and that's it.The problem arises is, would Myrcella count at all? She has to take husband's last name thus placing another family on the throne. That would be unlikely especially that male heirs in close circle of family exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draco_Dracul Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Stannis, unless the child that Cersei conceived with Robert somehow survive. Given how moon tea works, by forcing menstruation, the pregnancy would have to have lasted at least 22 weeks for the child to have any chance (and even with modern medicine it would only be a 20% chance). So unless something with odds so slim that even a compulsive gambler wouldn't take the bet is true, then Stannis is the rightful heir, but if you take anything from ASoIaF it's that rightful doesn't mean any good and swords are better than claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Beyond the Wall Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If you are unaware of the incest and still following the rules set in place during the targaryen rule then it would be Tommen--> Stannis. because..."Since the Dance, House Targaryen has practiced a highly modified version of agnatic primogeniture, placing female claimants in the line of succession behind all possible male ones, even collateral relations." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadside Rose Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Since Robert had no idea that Joffrey was not his trueborn son...his true heir would be Stannis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadside Rose Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Stannis, unless the child that Cersei conceived with Robert somehow survive. Given how moon tea works, by forcing menstruation, the pregnancy would have to have lasted at least 22 weeks for the child to have any chance (and even with modern medicine it would only be a 20% chance). So unless something with odds so slim that even a compulsive gambler wouldn't take the bet is true, then Stannis is the rightful heir, but if you take anything from ASoIaF it's that rightful doesn't mean any good and swords are better than claims.I don't think the child Cersei had with Robert survived. In Maggy the Frogs prophecy, Maggy says Cersei will have 3 children and Robert 16. Joffrey, Tommen, Myrcella already make the 3, so I doubt if anyone else survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 If you are unaware of the incest and still following the rules set in place during the targaryen rule then it would be Tommen--> Stannis. because..."Since the Dance, House Targaryen has practiced a highly modified version of agnatic primogeniture, placing female claimants in the line of succession behind all possible male ones, even collateral relations."Yep.Baratheon succession:Robert BaratheonJoffrey Baratheon1. Tommen Baratheon2. Stannis BaratheonRenly Baratheon3. Myrcella Baratheon4. Shireen Baratheon5. Descendants of Steffon Baratheon's siblings.6. Descendants of Steffon Baratheon's father's siblings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night'sQueen Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Stannis, but no one wants him for their king.Peach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bronn Stokeworth Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Is it really Stannis or do Robert's Bastards have a better claimed, for example Mya Stone or Gendry?The fact that this never even a question in the books should tell you the answer.EDIT:If you are unaware of the incest and still following the rules set in place during the targaryen rule then it would be Tommen--> Stannis. because..."Since the Dance, House Targaryen has practiced a highly modified version of agnatic primogeniture, placing female claimants in the line of succession behind all possible male ones, even collateral relations."This is making the assumption that House Baratheon would have followed the Targs rules instead of the Baratheon rules. There is no particular reason to believe this, especially considering Robert's feelings about the Targs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Reek Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Wait, why doesn't Edric Storm count, I though he was legitimised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfish1992 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Wait, why doesn't Edric Storm count, I though he was legitimised?He was acknowledged by his father not legitimised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Tommen is his heir,Then Myrcella,Then Stannis.At this point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Odinson Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Wait, why doesn't Edric Storm count, I though he was legitimised?If he were legitimized then his name wouldn't be Edric Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pootie Tang Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 1. Stannis Baratheon2. Stannis Baratheon3. Stannis Baratheon4. Stannis Baratheon5. Stannis Baratheon6. Stannis Baratheon7. Stannis Baratheon8. Stannis Baratheon9. Stannis Baratheon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drunkard Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Wait, why doesn't Edric Storm count, I though he was legitimised?Robert recognised him, meaning he acknowledged that Edric was his son. Legitimisation is a whole different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Reek Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 He was acknowledged by his father not legitimised.If he were legitimized then his name wouldn't be Edric Storm.Fair enough, cheers. Why do they call him Lord? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Stannis Baratheon.Robert's bastards aren't legitimised so they're not true born and Joffrey and the rest aren't even Baratheons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Fair enough, cheers. Why do they call him Lord?They don't. You might be thinking of Edric Dayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My name is Reek Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 They don't. You might be thinking of Edric Dayne.Nah, Davos and some nobels do in ASOS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Nah, Davos and some nobels do in ASOS..I don't think they do, not even when they are loading him up on a ship. Though I'd be interested to see the quote where you say it happens, to see what the context was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl18 Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 It's Stannis and Shireen after him. If Shireen dies without having children of her own, then maybe Stannis (supposing that he is king by that point) would legitimize one of Robert's bastards, most likely Edric. But that's not really a concern right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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