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What/who is Quaithe? Her's/It's motivation?


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#1 Arya Wargface

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:48 AM

It's pretty clear the Quaithe wants Dany to go to Asshai, but why? I believe Illyrio states that Dany's dragon eggs came from the shadow lands, so that could be one peice. Also, the whole go East to go West thing, but once again, why does Quaithe want Dany to do anything?

#2 Mrs.Grumpy

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:52 AM

That, my dear, is an excellent question. Though not one easily answered.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:57 AM

Quaithe might be the Westerosi equivalent of a scammer, and she's just going to mug Daenerys when she shows up. She probably sends the same message to almost everyone in Essos at one point or another and robs anyone who is dumb enough to actually go to a place called "Asshai-by-the-Shadow".

Edited by Mad Monkey, 21 June 2013 - 08:57 AM.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 08:59 AM

If she really goes East to go West, she'll never make it to Westeros. Then again, it's not like she's ready to leave Meereen anytime soon anyway.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:07 AM

Quaithe might be the Westerosi equivalent of a scammer, and she's just going to mug Daenerys when she shows up. She probably sends the same message to almost everyone in Essos at one point or another and robs anyone who is dumb enough to actually go to a place called "Asshai-by-the-Shadow".

I think its pretty clear she is trying to help Dany. Who she is, or what her motives are, I have no idea.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:18 AM

Quaithe is Shiera Seastar, it is known.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:20 AM

That, my dear, is an excellent question. Though not one easily answered.

Mystique??

I think it's Shiera.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:21 AM

Quaithe is a prophetess or a priestess? She knows Dany is the Pwwp, and is needed to win the war for the dawn.

Also, now that Dany can ride Drogon, going to Asshai won't take that long.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:28 AM

Quaithe is Shiera Seastar, it is known.

A secret Targ? That would be a new theory.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:34 AM

She is really just some regular women being warged long distance by Hodor. Hodor can only say Hodor because he is too busy concentrating on warging half way around the world.

I don't think GRRM has given enough info about Quaithe to make any real determination. She only has three appearances in the series iirc.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:40 AM

Quaithe is Shiera Seastar, it is known.


who is Shiera Seastar? I don't recognize the name.

Ps, that's a freakin awesome name

#12 Nictarion

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:42 AM

who is Shiera Seastar? I don't recognize the name.

Ps, that's a freakin awesome name

One of Aegon IV's bastards.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:42 AM

I read an interesting thread/theory about her being ashara dayne... Not sure if I am on board, but it certainly was interesting lol

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:43 AM

I think its pretty clear she is trying to help Dany. Who she is, or what her motives are, I have no idea.


Not trying very hard, is she? Could her prophecies be any less helpful or less clear? All she does is give her riddles that can be misinterpreted, and tell her to be wary of people that are obviously untrustworthy (don't trust Reznak? NO ONE trusts Reznak!)

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:43 AM

who is Shiera Seastar? I don't recognize the name.

Ps, that's a freakin awesome name

Sheira Seastar is sister to Bloodraven and is one of Aegon the Unworthy's Great Bastards.
She was Bloodraven's lover as well.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:44 AM

who is Shiera Seastar? I don't recognize the name.

Ps, that's a freakin awesome name


She was the 3rd bastard child of Aegon the Unworthy. The 3 are known as the "Great Bastards", the other 2 of course being Bloodraven and Bittersteel.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:46 AM

She was the 3rd bastard child of Aegon the Unworthy. The 3 are known as the "Great Bastards", the other 2 of course being Bloodraven and Bittersteel.


That would make her about 120 years old minimum. Bloodraven is a grown man when Egg and Aemon were boys.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:52 AM

That would make her about 120 years old minimum. Bloodraven is a grown man when Egg and Aemon were boys.


Shiera was known for practicing sorcery to make her appear younger. Given that Brynden was able to use magic to extend his life, it's not much of a stretch that Shiera could do the same, especially in a place like Asshai.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:52 AM

That would make her about 120 years old minimum. Bloodraven is a grown man when Egg and Aemon were boys.

Well there were rumours that she bathed in the blood of maidens to keep her beauty.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:54 AM

She was the 3rd bastard child of Aegon the Unworthy. The 3 are known as the "Great Bastards", the other 2 of course being Bloodraven and Bittersteel.

Your forgetting Daemon.