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I have read past chapter 60. I continue to despise Sansa. The way she treats Tyrion despite his best efforts to comfort her and establish common ground. She remains cold, and emotionless.

She only shows her sadness over her family, when she is alone. I understand all shes been through and her mind set for withholding her true feelings, but she has no reason to do so in the presence of Tyrion.

The thing is he could almost be her night in shining armor if it wasn't for his heart already belonging to Shae ( Which I can't understand what he sees in her for all she puts him through)

I just wish Sansa had been a little more warm and human to Tyrion. She is foolish not to see that despite all his troubles he gives her so much kindness, yet she returns none of it.

They could have made a nice couple if She wasnt such a stick in the mud all the time. I don't see how any readers would like her character.

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I think if you gave any girl of that age a deformed midget, who was related to the people responsible for her father's death, as their potential husband.. it'd be incredibly unlikely they'd be willing to fuck them on their wedding night.

Sansa is a great character, with her final ASoS chapter being one of the best in the series.

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I don't recall exactly which one is chapter 60 so I won't say much due the fear of spoilers. Given everything she went through at the Lannister's hands including getting beaten by armoured fists until she couldn't walk by herself and stripped in public... well, she has every right to wish a slow and painful death to every Lannister who ever existed.

Her mind is so fucked up at this point that she can't possibly trust Tyrion. For all she knows, his kindness might be a façade. A good cop/bad cop act, if you will.

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Yeah, what kind of a 12 year old girl won't be full of love and kindness for the man she was forced to marry against her will. It's not like he is a member of the family which slaughtered her own and a murderer to boot.... :rolleyes:

Tyrion should count himself lucky she didn't tab him in his sleep immediately after he fell asleep that first night they were married.

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I think Sansa has her reasons to distrust Tyrion and to be reluctant to marry him. She had been planning a way out of Kings' Landing by marrying Willas Tyrell to escape from the Lannisters and this sudden bethrotal ruined all her hopes. Besides, as it was already said, since Joffrey had her father killed, she hates all his family. If you add Tyrion's appearance, something Sansa cares about, she obviously will not love him. However, I would like her to realize that he is not as all the Lannisters, and that she can trust him with time. I look forward to see a change in her attitude towards him, because I like both characters, and would like to see them together, now that they have nobody.

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I have read past chapter 60. I continue to despise Sansa. The way she treats Tyrion despite his best efforts to comfort her and establish common ground. She remains cold, and emotionless.

He reminds her of those people who brought destruction to her family. She was stupid enough not see the real Joffrey, so it was good for her not to fall again to another princey kind of glamor.
She only shows her sadness over her family, when she is alone. I understand all shes been through and her mind set for withholding her true feelings, but she has no reason to do so in the presence of Tyrion.
Well, Tyrion is a Lannister. What did the Lannisters do to her family? Even though he took no part in Ned's beheading or the Red Wedding, he broke his oath to Catelyn when he married Sansa - He swore to trade [sansa and Arya] for his brother. She doesn't know that, but what if she learns about it one day?
The thing is he could almost be her night in shining armor if it wasn't for his heart already belonging to Shae ( Which I can't understand what he sees in her for all she puts him through)
A knight in shining armor saves a girl from her prisoners, not keep her a prisoner in a forced marriage forever and ever.
I just wish Sansa had been a little more warm and human to Tyrion. She is foolish not to see that despite all his troubles he gives her so much kindness, yet she returns none of it.
She would rather endure numerous troubles than make herself love someone she could never loved.
They could have made a nice couple if She wasnt such a stick in the mud all the time. I don't see how any readers would like her character.
They're not my favorites but I don't think they could make a "nice" couple.
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I have read past chapter 60. I continue to despise Sansa. The way she treats Tyrion despite his best efforts to comfort her and establish common ground. She remains cold, and emotionless.

She only shows her sadness over her family, when she is alone. I understand all shes been through and her mind set for withholding her true feelings, but she has no reason to do so in the presence of Tyrion.

The thing is he could almost be her night in shining armor if it wasn't for his heart already belonging to Shae ( Which I can't understand what he sees in her for all she puts him through)

I just wish Sansa had been a little more warm and human to Tyrion. She is foolish not to see that despite all his troubles he gives her so much kindness, yet she returns none of it.

They could have made a nice couple if She wasnt such a stick in the mud all the time. I don't see how any readers would like her character.

Shae is only a real friend surrounded by enemies, Sansa can't do anything without being watched

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*sigh* Not even sure where to start.

To keep it short and simple, there is absolutely no reason Sansa should like or trust Tyrion. He doesn't beat and humilate her at every oportunity? Must be a nice change for Sansa, but that doesn't mean she is under any obligation to be open with him. Most assuredly she has no obligation to love him. For what? Being better than Joffrey?

Obviously the situation is uncomfortable for Tyrion, but he is the adult here: I felt sorry for him but not nearly as sorry as for frightened 13-year-old child with no family to protect her. I would have been even more sorry if she was browbeaten enough to cling to a known enemy purely on the grounds that he had the decency not to rape her on their wedding night.

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Shae is only a real friend surrounded by enemies, Sansa can't do anything without being watched

Book:Shae isn't even her friend, also the idea that she should be happy with Tyrion is laughable.

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True, but Shae is not even a real threat to her, the others are

IIRC, Shae only interacts with Sansa after Tyrion and her's marriage in the books.

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Have not gotten to this chapter, but all what she has been through she might start to finally be learning and not trust people so willingly. She is starting to realize she is just a pawn in people's schemes and the only reason the Lannister needs her is to have a claim to her home and the North.

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Back on topic, ACOK, Sansa I

Sansa watched him walk off, his body swaying heavily from side to side with every step, like something from a grotesquerie. He speaks more gently than Joffrey, she thought, but the queen spoke to me gently too. He’s still a Lannister, her brother and Joff’s uncle, and no friend. Once she had loved Prince Joffrey with all her heart, and admired and trusted his mother, the queen. They had repaid that love and trust with her father’s head. Sansa would never make that mistake again.
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I have read past chapter 60. I continue to despise Sansa. The way she treats Tyrion despite his best efforts to comfort her and establish common ground. She remains cold, and emotionless.

She only shows her sadness over her family, when she is alone. I understand all shes been through and her mind set for withholding her true feelings, but she has no reason to do so in the presence of Tyrion.

The thing is he could almost be her night in shining armor if it wasn't for his heart already belonging to Shae ( Which I can't understand what he sees in her for all she puts him through)

I just wish Sansa had been a little more warm and human to Tyrion. She is foolish not to see that despite all his troubles he gives her so much kindness, yet she returns none of it.

They could have made a nice couple if She wasnt such a stick in the mud all the time. I don't see how any readers would like her character.

You cannot be serious. I would recommend re-reading a Clash of Kings (the chapter where Sansa first meets Tyrion when he returns to KL to be the King's Hand). He may be nicer to her than Joffrey, but he's still a Lannister. She has no reason to trust these people. And she has no reason to be nice to a husband that was chosen for her by the people that killed her parents and older brother.

Back on topic, ACOK, Sansa I

Thank you, this is what I was referring to.

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The way she treats Tyrion despite his best efforts to comfort her and establish common ground. She remains cold, and emotionless.

To be fair, the way she treats her husband has never factor in the way I feel about the character. I've always seen their marriage as a way into Tyrion's issues with his father and his own issues with Tysha and Shae.
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