What is Your Most Crackpot Theory v5

[The Bastard of Summer]

First Thread

http://asoiaf.wester...rackpot-theory/

Second Thread

http://asoiaf.wester...kpot-theory-v2/

Third Thread

http://asoiaf.wester...kpot-theory-v3/

Fourth Thread

On Dany

One of the three treasons she will know, will be committed by her. Aegon will take KL while she is still in Essos and the kingdom will bend the knee to him. So he will be crowned king. Dany will finally decide it's time to vacate Essos. She will land in Westeros finally and go to war with Aegon but his troops will get the better of hers. She will then pretend to bend the knee to him under the conditions of a marriage and joint rule. She will become his second wife, because he will already be married to Arienne. He will accept and they will marry. Dany will then commit treason by having king Aegon IV of his name and Queen Arienne Martell killed via fire or being eaten by Drogon. She will claim he was no real dragon but a murmmers dragon because a dragon won't eat/burn someone who is blood of the dragon. She will then take the IT as her own. The IT will recognize Dany as a king and kinslayer and start to kill her slowly as it killed many unworthy regents before her.

Carry On...

[Flaglore]

The horn of joramun actually brings the Titan of Braavos to life.

[mindchap]

Bloodraven is us.

[Mr Hodor]

The world of ice and fire is actually flat. It is said that one can see the wall from the top of hightower in oldtown. It would have been impossible to see if the world was not flat.

A flat world might also explain the long seasons.

[Crannogman Pride]

Jaqen H'ghar was pressured by Arya to go against his faith (killing someone for whom the gift is not meant). Now he is a runaway from the FM, and be has his own agenda entirely.

Now, he is learning of the mysteries of the world, including magic and science, at the citadel. Perhaps he is unraveling secrets being hidden in Oldtown. He will have vast knowledge and amazing ability to influence world events.

He and Arya will eventually team up and use their horrifying assassin skills for good. Or what they think is good.

[Lala]

that Dany's treason of blood hasn't happened yet (MMD never quite made sense to me) and that it will be Tyrion - when push comes to shove, he is unable to betray his family and consequently betrays Dany to the Lannisters

[The Prince of Ice]

Rhaegar+Lyanna=Shae(Courtesy of MaesterHodor before his thread got taken down and him possibly banned again)

[not in the face]

I thought Sansa was warging Balerion the Cat. The time frame for some events does not fit though.

[MRHD]

Rhaegar+Lyanna=Shae(Courtesy of MaesterHodor before his thread got taken down and him possibly banned again)

I'm really kicking myself that I missed this.

[profilebegone]

Rhaegar+Lyanna=Shae(Courtesy of MaesterHodor before his thread got taken down and him possibly banned again)

Wait - this happened!?!?

I'm really kicking myself that I missed this.

TELL ME ABOUT IT. :crying:

[The Duke]

Here is from my Robb Stark, not dead thread:

First let me include a disclaimer that I am 99.9% sure that Robb is in fact dead, but something got me thinking in the Jon Snow thread about surviving his stabbing.

Many people brought up the Varamyr Six Skins prologue about starting his second life meaning that Jon may be about to do the same, living his second life in Ghost. But what if that chapter isn't there looking forward to Jon's situation, but is actually looking back at Robb's.

Robb wasn't killed right at the onset of the Red Wedding, and the attack on the outside happened simultaneously. If Grey Wind were already killed its it possible that Robb reached out for another animal nearby? Maybe even instinctively moreso than trying to do it since his warging knowledge was very limited (albeit some people think he may have had been building his skill using Grey Wind, but we don't know how cognizant of it he was since he wasn't a POV).

Now the Red Wedding was in the middle of the twins in the great hall. If something like the rookery were directly above the great hall in the castle, a raven would be ideal since as we later learn from Bloodraven, all ravens have been warged at some point or another, and what has been warged and broken in is more susceptible to letting another warg in if it is not being used (according to Varamyr).

So the theory is, what if Grey Wind were already dead, and as Robb was dying his spirit reached out and found a raven. Thus, Robb begins his second life as a raven. This raven then proceeds to go to the Wall where he searches for what he thinks is his last remaining brother in Jon Snow.

Like I said, I'm pretty positive Robb is dead. Dead dead. No second life as an animal, but it is an interesting possibility to think about.

[profilebegone]

Here is from my Robb Stark, not dead thread:

First let me include a disclaimer that I am 99.9% sure that Robb is in fact dead, but something got me thinking in the Jon Snow thread about surviving his stabbing.

Many people brought up the Varamyr Six Skins prologue about starting his second life meaning that Jon may be about to do the same, living his second life in Ghost. But what if that chapter isn't there looking forward to Jon's situation, but is actually looking back at Robb's.

Robb wasn't killed right at the onset of the Red Wedding, and the attack on the outside happened simultaneously. If Grey Wind were already killed its it possible that Robb reached out for another animal nearby? Maybe even instinctively moreso than trying to do it since his warging knowledge was very limited (albeit some people think he may have had been building his skill using Grey Wind, but we don't know how cognizant of it he was since he wasn't a POV).

Now the Red Wedding was in the middle of the twins in the great hall. If something like the rookery were directly above the great hall in the castle, a raven would be ideal since as we later learn from Bloodraven, all ravens have been warged at some point or another, and what has been warged and broken in is more susceptible to letting another warg in if it is not being used (according to Varamyr).

So the theory is, what if Grey Wind were already dead, and as Robb was dying his spirit reached out and found a raven. Thus, Robb begins his second life as a raven. This raven then proceeds to go to the Wall where he searches for what he thinks is his last remaining brother in Jon Snow.

Like I said, I'm pretty positive Robb is dead. Dead dead. No second life as an animal, but it is an interesting possibility to think about.

This is...not impossible. But it's just infinitely more likely that if Robb did do any moment-of-death-skinchanging he did so into Grey Wind and that the cleverer-than-the-average-bear ravens in the North are pawns of a certain Targaryen bastard.

[Northbound]

I guess this could be crackpot. It's just something that I really wish was true, but I know it's not. Meera Reed is Jon's twin sister.

[space]

Mine is the "others" or "white walkers" are not that big of a deal...and wont be the central part of the stories ending

[Roadside Rose]

Here is from my Robb Stark, not dead thread:

First let me include a disclaimer that I am 99.9% sure that Robb is in fact dead, but something got me thinking in the Jon Snow thread about surviving his stabbing.

Many people brought up the Varamyr Six Skins prologue about starting his second life meaning that Jon may be about to do the same, living his second life in Ghost. But what if that chapter isn't there looking forward to Jon's situation, but is actually looking back at Robb's.

Robb wasn't killed right at the onset of the Red Wedding, and the attack on the outside happened simultaneously. If Grey Wind were already killed its it possible that Robb reached out for another animal nearby? Maybe even instinctively moreso than trying to do it since his warging knowledge was very limited (albeit some people think he may have had been building his skill using Grey Wind, but we don't know how cognizant of it he was since he wasn't a POV).

Now the Red Wedding was in the middle of the twins in the great hall. If something like the rookery were directly above the great hall in the castle, a raven would be ideal since as we later learn from Bloodraven, all ravens have been warged at some point or another, and what has been warged and broken in is more susceptible to letting another warg in if it is not being used (according to Varamyr).

So the theory is, what if Grey Wind were already dead, and as Robb was dying his spirit reached out and found a raven. Thus, Robb begins his second life as a raven. This raven then proceeds to go to the Wall where he searches for what he thinks is his last remaining brother in Jon Snow.

Like I said, I'm pretty positive Robb is dead. Dead dead. No second life as an animal, but it is an interesting possibility to think about.

I believe Robb Stark is dead. About him warging into an animal, I don't know. It's possible.

But what's most intriguing about Robb Stark is the 'leg of lamb' situation. Dany saw a King holding the leg of the lamb as a sceptre, in the House of Undying.

Now when Robb died, he wasn't holding the leg of lamb, Wendel Manderly was. (This was a reasoning given in another Robb Stark not dead thread).

And it still intrigues me, even though I'm pretty sure Robb the person is dead.

[Starfell]

Combining two of the most hilarious crackpot threads I've seen on the forum: Hodor is the real Aegon and Hodor is Rickon's father, ergo: Rickon is the PtwP!

Also, Lymond Vikary was reported dead after Oxcross but later turned out to actually have been taken prisoner. This is clearly foreshadowing (or backshadowing). House Vikary are probably a bastard branch of House Reyne as their arms show a Reyne lion with inverted colours beneath a bend sinister.

Obviously what GRRM is trying to tell us is that rumours of House Reyne's demise were greatly exaggerated and that some Reynes were actually taken prisoner and kept beneath the Rock. By now I expect they've developed a Morloc-like society, feeding on any Lannister guards or serving-people who stray into their caves.

[Erik Dane]

Rhaegar Targaryen didn't die on the Trident, he just temporarily passed out. He later turned up on the Quiet Isle after someone stripped him of his armor, and he now lives on as "the Elder Brother".

[The Prince of Ice]

I'm really kicking myself that I missed this.

It was pretty funny tbh, too bad he got banned again and his thread got pulled before i could comment.

[The Prince of Ice]

Wait - this happened!?!?

TELL ME ABOUT IT. :crying:

Yep too bad he got banned and his thread pulled before i or anyone else could comment.

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

Yep too bad he got banned and his thread pulled before i or anyone else could comment.

I'm assuming that his banishment was unrelated to how crazy that thread was and that he was also a massive troll.