Lord Dolorous Edd Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Hello forum this is my second post and I was just wondering something about this character "patchface" the fool. I feel as if the things he says are foreshadowing events that are going to be important later. Just wanted to know your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_one_who_was_promised Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Yes, I agree, and I think the general consensus on these boards is that his constant ramblings are prophetic indeed.I find his story very curious - that he apparently survived the shipwreck which killed Steffon and Cassana Baratheon. I wonder whether he was driven mad by his experience or whether he is the instrument of some God, such as the Drowned God.I find him a weird but very sinister character indeed. I wouldn't trust him in the slightest and suspect that he might have some malevolent streak, whether he is insane or not. I find the following vision very sinister indeed:“We will march into the sea and out again. Under the waves we will ride seahorses, and mermaids will blow seashells to announce our coming, oh, oh, oh.”I could be wrong, but my hunch is that he is prophesising the coming of the Others. But, more than that, is he prophesising that he will have a role in it with the words, "we will lead"?I'm not sure what all the other ramblings mean as of yet. ASoS Spoiler: There is one theory that he foretells the Red Wedding:"Fool’s blood, king’s blood, blood on the maiden’s thigh, but chains for the guests and chains for the bridegroom, aye aye aye".However, as per other threads I've seen on here, there is speculation that this might actually be referring to a future event. There is a case to be made that the Fool, King and maiden references may be referring to Tyrion, Jon and Dany, but if this is the case, what it might be telling us, who knows.There are more interesting discussions here: http://asoiaf.wester...ace-prophesies/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AC Angel Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Yes, its popular belief that many of the things Patchface has said is foreshadowing.You might be interested in this (though beware spoilers unless you have finished all of the books): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolinus Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Oh, no question; he has a queer sixth sense of sorts, and he is forshadowing comings such as The Others beyond The Wall and the coming of Daenerys and her dragons. It's all so cryptic though it's almost impossible to be sure of anything... Not to mention the fool creeps me out. :bawl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beathag Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Of all the characters, Patchface is the one that really grates on me. I would think Shireen would at least get rid of that blasted bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CerseiLannister04 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 I honestly think patchface is a bad influence on Shireen and Stannis should have taken patches away from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiggardlyBastard Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (MINOR SPOILER AHEAD) "Under the sea, smoke rises in bubbles, and flames burn green and blue and black. “I know, I know, oh, oh, oh." I think he foreshadows the wildfire at the Battle of Blackwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLE Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 When he says "we" will march under the sea and out again... I think there may well be a connection between the Drowned God and the Others, and Patchface's madness is more akin to, or may render him vulnerable to, a form of spiritual/demonic "possession". He may be channelling what is essentially Westeros's version of Cthulhu :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ko Rakharo Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 The "I will lead it. We will march into the sea and out again. Under the waves we will ride seahorses, and mermaids will blow seashells to announce our coming, oh, oh, oh" quote is really creepy. I would interpret the sea as the sea really. He led it, as in he was the first to drown and survive (at least to his knowing). In BW there were armies (they "march") sinking thanks to Tyrion's chain and the wildfire, and, of course, there were survivors, one of which is Ser Davos. However this doesn't explain the seahorses and mermaids except if he meant something really stupid like the battle ships. Would mermaids then be the Lannister heralds? It all fits well seeing as one of his other quotes clearly refers to the wildfire flames at BW. On the other hand, what most people think isn't a bad option either. But again the seahorses. What do they represent if the whole thing is foreseeing the Others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Rose Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 He certainly creeps me out whenever I read him singing his songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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