alienlefay Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Hello! Though I've read the series, there's a thing I can't remember. Are there 2 types of "winter creatures", like Inferi and necromancers or are there only Inferi? (it's easier to relate with Harry Potter in order to distinguish both types, if you're not getting the point, by Inferi I mean a revived corpse, the equivalent to White Walkers shown on GoT, and by necromancer I'm referring to some type of mythical creature that turns corpses into WW).I can't tell if my mind's playing tricks on me or if there actually are references to this in the series... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Hello! Though I've read the series, there's a thing I can't remember. Are there 2 types of "winter creatures", like Inferi and necromancers or are there only Inferi? (it's easier to relate with Harry Potter in order to distinguish both types, if you're not getting the point, by Inferi I mean a revived corpse, the equivalent to White Walkers shown on GoT, and by necromancer I'm referring to some type of mythical creature that turns corpses into WW).I can't tell if my mind's playing tricks on me or if there actually are references to this in the series... CheersOK. Going with your Harry Potter phrases, the Others (White Walkers) are not inferi. The resurrected corpses are called wights and are essentially zombies. The necromancers are the Others, a sentient race of humanoids and they are most certainly not human.Also, I'm afraid that this is the wrong subforum. Try General (ASoIaF) in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Winters Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 White Walkers is just another name for The Others. So they're the same thing. It's Wights that are controlled by The Others/White Walkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamiShikkaku Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Did he really think people wouldn't get the word "wight" confused with "white walkers"? I thought they were the same thing up until somewhere in ASOS. (It doesn't help that I was listening to the audiobooks and couldn't see the spelling difference.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Did he really think people wouldn't get the word "wight" confused with "white walkers"? I thought they were the same thing up until somewhere in ASOS. (It doesn't help that I was listening to the audiobooks and couldn't see the spelling difference.)Others are barely ever called "White Walkers" in the books, maybe twice. Why would you get confused between "Other" and "wight?" The confusion is mostly the TV show's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamiShikkaku Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 Yes, and I read the books after watching season 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmilingKnight11 Posted August 11, 2013 Share Posted August 11, 2013 There are the others and the dead they raise called the white walkers. Just those two that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncle Kraken Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 There are the others and the dead they raise called the white walkers. Just those two that's itNo. The Others are White Walkers. They raise the Wights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyvasse Khal Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I forget why the show decided to use the 'White Walker' term exclusively and not call them 'Others'. Seems to have confused some people though. If you just concentrate on the book terms it is easier to just forget the term 'White Walker' and think of Others = not human, Wights = were human once, revived by Others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmilingKnight11 Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I always thought wights was just short for white walkers. It's just confusing because of the show and books. The others, wights, white walkers. Jesus Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I forget why the show decided to use the 'White Walker' term exclusively and not call them 'Others'. Seems to have confused some people though. If you just concentrate on the book terms it is easier to just forget the term 'White Walker' and think of Others = not human, Wights = were human once, revived by Others.Because of the Others from Lost.And I agree that 'wight' isn't the best term Martin could have come up with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baelish for President Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 I always thought that it was because the capitalisation of the word "Others" is not particularly obvious on the TV. Presumably the decision will have some repercussions when Melisandre starts going on about R'hllor's enemy "The Great Other" and nobody gets that he's meant to be the leader of the White Walkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted August 12, 2013 Share Posted August 12, 2013 Because of the Others from Lost.And I agree that 'wight' isn't the best term Martin could have come up with...Well a wight is not something Martin made up. The confusion only occurs because of the show and it naming Others White Walkers. Somehow they thought people were more likely to confuse Game of Thrones with Lost than White Walkers and wights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Roberto Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I don't even remember the show naming wights (if they did, was probably a quick one). The show doesn't even differentiate the Others from their minions, all my show-only friends think it's all the same.As for the term, I know it exists, I just don't like it (and it can confuse with white walkers, especially in the first book where this term pops up more oftenly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyvasse Khal Posted August 13, 2013 Share Posted August 13, 2013 I'm not really a fan of the term 'wights' either. I don't find it confusing but I just don't think it sounds quite right for what they are. I would probably prefer a more generic sounding term for the collective like 'the undead' or 'the revived'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireMaker Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 How do we know that the Others control the wights? A little off-topic, but hey. I mean raising the dead is done by other factions, but they hold no "sway" over them. It's kinda like this, The Others can animate the dead, and that dead thing is a wight. White walkers is kinda like "slang" for others. Unless they are called that because they control the wights (walking them like walking a dog?) But then MArtin surely would've called the Wight Walkers right? I dunno, but to answer the original post Others/White Walkers=puppetmaster wights=puppets, by general consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentree Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I think that a big part of the confusion comes from that the show portrayed the others like some pale frozen anorectic old men who look like undead.And I agree that wight is an unfortunate term, by traditional definition those undead are not wights, more like ghouls or zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 White Walkers come in both male in female at least the females are hinted at.WightsPossible human white walker mixed species are hinted at in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Lewis Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 The Others and the White Walkers are the same thing.The Wights are the dead that walk.There is often references that talk about the White Walkers and Wights descending on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncle Kraken Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 What's really shitty for show watchers is the White Walkers could be confused with Walkers from The Walking Dead. Lol. So the White Walkers are just caucasian zombies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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