Queen Alysanne™ Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 the difference is that what Dany has it's only because of the dragons when Robb won his own battles.Just on a side note the dragons weren't "gifted" to her.She lost her husband and son before she got them, so that alone is a strong battle she won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Visenya Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Dany wouldn't be anywhere if it wern't for her Dragons, if it wasn't for them she would be wasting away in Vaes Dothrak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Just on a side note the dragons weren't "gifted" to her.She lost her husband and son before she got them, so that alone is a strong battle she won.so she did the magic not MMD?EDIT Dany wouldn't be anywhere if it wern't for her Dragons, if it wasn't for them she would be wasting away in Vaes Dothrak. obviously her magical "Fire and Blood" blood has compel everyone to her side and not the 3mdw she carries around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickStormborn Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I love how you immediately assume someone who doesn't want Dany to lead the fight against the Others is sexist.Did I say that? I used the word "woman" because, for whatever reason, the only other characters (apart from Dany) being mentioned are all male.the difference is that what Dany has it's only because of the dragons when Robb won his own battles.And why did Robb win his own battles? He was born the first son of a great lord, with an army of 18,000+ and sword-training from a very early age.Why do her Freedmen call her Mother? They are utterly and totally dependent on her for their well-being, under Hizdahr they could easily be enslaved again or worse. Loyalty implies that you choose to be loyal, the whole "You're Free" thing was forced upon them and now they have nowhere else to go.They're not dependent on her; Meereen remained free once Dany was taken from the city, demonstrating that they are not dependent on her.Daario is only loyal to Dany because they do it alot and he sees Dany as the winning side in the war in that region. We will see how loyal he is when shit hits the fan. Besides, the Stormcrows have already defected, the rest will follow suit if the siege of Mereen goes awry.He was loyal to Daenerys before they started having sex.And I hate to break it to you, but shit already HAS hit the fan, and he's STILL remained loyal to her.The SECOND SONS (not the Stormcrows) defected, true... But now they're trying to defect back because they realised they made a mistake.The Unsullied are robotic and are programmed to follow Dany, so it makes sense that they wouldn't follow someone else.Wrong, again (this seems to be a pattern with you). They followed Barristan and the Shavepate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 By wielded do you mean she said a word? Oxcross wasn't won by Grey Wind. He simply led them to the battlefield, while Drogon on the other hand just gave Dany Astrapor.this and plus Robb didn't send GW anywhere GW was doin wolf stuff and Ribb had a green dream and found it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 so she did the magic not MMD?Yea she did it, fire and the blood of MMD, Drogo and her child.She even said that she thanks MMD for teaching her "death for life" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonstoned Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 What about everyone together?But it will probably be Stannis buying time for Dany and Jon (after whatever the hell happens to him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickStormborn Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 so she did the magic not MMD?Three lives were given for three dragons, hence why Dany could walk into the flames only when Drogo and Mirri were both burned and dead, because it meant that she could give the third life - Rhaego. This is supported by the fact that Dany knows she will burn if she walks into the flames while Mirri is alive.There is absolutely no evidence that MMD was performing any magic, apart from the "singing", which is most likely explained as Mirri's way of trying not to scream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Melli Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Did I say that? I used the word "woman" because, for whatever reason, the only other characters (apart from Dany) being mentioned are all male.Melisandre isn't a male. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Yea she did it, fire and the blood of MMD, Drogo and her child.She even said that she thanks MMD for teaching her "death for life" so? she literally gave birth tho the three reptiles she has near her? No.The point is that by a magical one time thing and because of MMD's magic Dany got her dragons and the dragons gave her everything. On her own she would have nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymes with Weak Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Wrong, again (this seems to be a pattern with you). They followed Barristan and the Shavepate.Who represented Dany and her interests at that time. And how about you try to respond more courteously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 so? she literally gave birth tho the three reptiles she has near her? No.The point is that by a magical one time thing and because of MMD's magic Dany got her dragons and the dragons gave her everything. On her own she would have nothing.THIS.Without her Dragons she would either be dead, in Vaes Dothrack, or some free city lords wife or paramour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Visenya Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Patrick, I know this is hard for you to accept, but there are some people who think Dany isn't good for anything other than spreading her legs for a Dothraki Horselord, and to be fair she wasn't even very good at that, at first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StannisBamfatheon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Stannis/Jon buddy cop tandem. There the Riggs and Murtaw of Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good King Daemon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 the difference is that what Dany has it's only because of the dragons when Robb won his own battles.Yeah Robb won his own battles with the convenient large armies of the Stark's and Tully's handed to him on a silver platter just because of his birth. Don't get me wrong Robb was a great commander but Dany has shown great potential as a commander as well and she acquired her army by herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Visenya Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Stannis/Jon buddy cop tandem. There the Riggs and Murtaw of Westeros.But have the Others got Diplomatic Immunity?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StannisBamfatheon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Here are some quotes for y'all who are saying Stannis:Jesus stormborn the question wasn't who WILL lead the fight against the Others the question was who is best suited. OMG the house of the undying prophecies for like the millionth time, never seen that before...It doesn't change the fact that Stannis would be very capable in a battle against the others. Does is really have to boil down to this in every thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaircat Meow Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 this and plus Robb didn't send GW anywhere GW was doin wolf stuff and Ribb had a green dream and found itWhich means he should get even less credit. He was handed a way to circumvent a pass that had been fortified and defended for centuries by people who should have know the trails much better than him and it was all down to the wolf. It was a wolf dream though (in all probability) not a green dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 so? she literally gave birth tho the three reptiles she has near her? No.The point is that by a magical one time thing and because of MMD's magic Dany got her dragons and the dragons gave her everything. On her own she would have nothing.MMD didnt perform the magic it was Dany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymes with Weak Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 But have the Others got Diplomatic Immunity?.Stannis doesn't care. He's to old for that shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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