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What would ruin it for you?


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#1 Okaythen

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:13 AM

There are a couple of topics bouncing around at the moment asking if X would ruin (or similar) the series for you. It got me thinking about what would ruin it for me. I only came up with one thing which is Jamie and Brienne being in love and getting together. Now obviously it depends on how it's handled but my gut reaction would be a big fat NO.

So what would ruin it for you?

PS - I know this has probably been done somewhere before (these forums are incredibly comprehensive) but I couldn't see it recently. If there has been a recent thread I apologise.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:16 AM

Secret Targs.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:17 AM

Secret Targs.


Do you count JS in that? I hate the secret Targ thing too except for him, I always just accepted him as one from GoT.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:21 AM

The death and resurrection of Jon as "un-Jon"

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:22 AM

The story coalescing into Jon/Dany against the Others in a good vs. evil fashion. The story is still too good for it to be ruined but it would definitely reduce my enjoyment.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:24 AM

If Westeros is saved by one hero aka Dany or Jon.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:27 AM

The Starks loyalty to the North and the people of the North not being repaid in kind now that they need support themselves. If they all fall and the house isn't restored I'm going to be upset. I'm not saying they should control all of Westeros but the North should really appreciate how THEY ran things now that they're gone.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:28 AM

Do you count JS in that?


Nope, he's been set up from the beginning so he's okay. I can even live with Aegon, although I did think it was kind of lame to just pull him out of nowhere like that.

If Westeros is saved by one hero aka Dany or Jon.



yeah that too

Edited by Facebookless Man, 09 September 2013 - 10:29 AM.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 10:32 AM

A secret targ other than jon. Another stark death, tbf Robbs death ruined it a bit for me, wasnt as interested in AFFC or ADWD... Could of had his army murdered and he retreats or something

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:25 AM

  • Jon staying dead. I don't know if GRRM plans to resurrect him. But Jon staying dead (or even staying dead through tWoW) would be a joke on us. He has been foreshadowed to be a 'King' as a major player in the upcoming War with the Others. If he stays dead, it will be sad.
  • Dany landing in Westeros, defeating all her enemies at KL. Then riding on her dragon to the Wall, and defeating the Others. She gets everything so easy! Her army, her bloodriders, her dragons, the best Queensguard (Jorah, Barristan). And she just has to say 'blood of the dragon' or 'dracarys' every now and then. I wont' be surprised she sits the Iron Throne by the end of tWoW.

Edited by Little Balerion, 09 September 2013 - 11:26 AM.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:26 AM

My guy actually winning. Littlefinger that is.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:31 AM

  • Jon staying dead. I don't know if GRRM plans to resurrect him. But Jon staying dead (or even staying dead through tWoW) would be a joke on us. He has been foreshadowed to be a 'King' as a major player in the upcoming War with the Others. If he stays dead, it will be sad.
  • Dany landing in Westeros, defeating all her enemies at KL. Then riding on her dragon to the Wall, and defeating the Others. She gets everything so easy! Her army, her bloodriders, her dragons, the best Queensguard (Jorah, Barristan). And she just has to say 'blood of the dragon' or 'dracarys' every now and then. I wont' be surprised she sits the Iron Throne by the end of tWoW.


I agree with you on the Dany thing it gets annoying but I would "like" to see Jon really dying. It would be the ultimate punch in the face from GRRM which would underline the rule that there are no true heroes in the game.

Edited by Born Sinner, 09 September 2013 - 11:31 AM.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:33 AM

Any Lannisters being secret Targs.
Arya dying (unless it's right at the end heroically).
Dany or Tyrion ruling at the end.
Sansa and LF being together (consensual, rape, marriage, in any way).
Jon really being dead.

I will finish the books no matter what though.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:36 AM

Dany dying before setting foot in Westeros
Any secret Targs other than Jon

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:36 AM

Arya never seeing Nymeria again. Not a major thing, but it would annoy me severely.

Arya not killing anyone from her list (keep yer paws off Sandor though, please pleeeease... which leads me toooo):

Arya killing Sandor Clegane.

Cersei regaining any sort of power.


Jon Snow being dead.


Brienne dying.


Sandor Clegane really being dead.

Theon Greyjoy not learning a lesson from all he's done and suffered (or rather, not doing anything to make things right).

Rickon not doing anything useful.

Sansa not getting revenge from Littlefinger.

Winterfell never belonging to the Starks again.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:39 AM

  • Dany landing in Westeros, defeating all her enemies at KL. Then riding on her dragon to the Wall, and defeating the Others. She gets everything so easy! Her army, her bloodriders, her dragons, the best Queensguard (Jorah, Barristan). And she just has to say 'blood of the dragon' or 'dracarys' every now and then. I wont' be surprised she sits the Iron Throne by the end of tWoW.

/agree.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':agree:' /> /agree.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':agree:' /> /agree.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':agree:' />

Another thing is if Jon + Dany = twu wuv!!1!!! Gag me.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:40 AM

Nothing, but the closest thing to "ruin" for me is Jon sitting the IT with Queen Val /ack.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ack:' /> /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />

Ill try to think of other stuff later.

Edited by TalalOfDorne, 09 September 2013 - 11:41 AM.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:49 AM

Nothing would ruin it for me. Somethings could, and will, happen in it that I won't necessary like, but I believe in George and in his ability to tell his story. Admittedly I would be very sorry if Jon or Arya died, but I would struggle on through it. Nothing short of death will stop me from reading and enjoying it until its bittersweet ending. Of course, I could die of old age ...

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

Nothing, but the closest thing to "ruin" for me is Jon sitting the IT with Queen Val /ack.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':ack:' /> /thumbsdown.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':thumbsdown:' />

Ill try to think of other stuff later.

Isn't Val interested in Toregg now?
I thought Jon lost his chance with Val.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 11:53 AM

Isn't Val interested in Toregg now?
I thought Jon lost his chance with Val.


AI see a lot of people here thinking otherwise.