The Crow's Third Eye Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Thank you! I forgot about Bran & Co. Keep thinking though there might be more missing or maybe a sword with some significance for it to be mentioned in Reek's POV chapter.IIRC, Hodor takes one, Meera takes one and Bran also takes one, although I may be wrong about who takes them. Point is I seem to remember 3 being taken, and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin the Mighty Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Has it been established who has the swords that Theon/Reek noticed are missing from the Winterfell crypt? It was on my mind last night and I was trying to remember if Mance and the 6 spearwives were supposed to have taken them or are they still just missing.IIRC, Hodor takes one, Meera takes one and Bran also takes one, although I may be wrong about who takes them. Point is I seem to remember 3 being taken, andYeah three were taken, although I find it weird Theon did not mention how many are missing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 What happened between Edmure and Tom?And is there any theory about Tyrek Lammister? Where is this guy? And why did GRRM mention his nickname? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Elsa Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 What happened between Edmure and Tom?From the wiki: Tom once ran afoul of Edmure Tully when he stole a girl that Edmure was supposed to bed to take his virginity. Edmure had drunk too much and was unable to perform. Tom then made a song about a floppy fish, which led to Edmure's hatred of music. (Arya ch. 22, ASOS).And is there any theory about Tyrek Lammister? Where is this guy? And why did GRRM mention his nickname?Lots of theories actually.http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/80052-saving-squire-tyrek-lannister/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserion-Dracarys Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Yeah three were taken, although I find it weird Theon did not mention how many are missing... Didn't Osha take one too? I have a memory that they were 4 missing - Brandon's, Rickard's, a Stark King's and Ned's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Didn't Osha take one too? I have a memory that they were 4 missing - Brandon's, Rickard's, a Stark King's and Ned's?Osha carried her long oaken spear in one hand and the torch in the other. A naked sword hungdown her back, one of the last to bear Mikken’s mark. He had forged it for Lord Eddard’s tomb,to keep his ghost at rest. But with Mikken slain and the ironmen guarding the armory, good steelhad been hard to resist, even if it meant grave-robbing. Meera had claimed Lord Rickard’s blade,though she complained that it was too heavy. Brandon took his namesake’s, the sword made forthe uncle he had never known. He knew he would not be much use in a fight, but even so theblade felt good in his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor de la Tormenta Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 It's not impossible to get by the Wall just difficult to get by with large numbers.Westeros has a relly low population. North even more. Perhaps direwolves are not even extinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Westeros has a relly low population. North even more. Perhaps direwolves are not even extinct.That's my personal opinion, Brandon's Gift and the New Gift covers a lot of unpopulated area, there could easily be pockets of wildlife there that no one comes into contact with. I was just pointing out that the Wall isn't impassable, especially for animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebitapincha Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 How did the direwolf that Robb and Jon found go south of the Wall?I think the main theory is that Bloodraven (aka The Three-Eyed Crow) warged the direwolf and sent it to the Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaramyrSixchins Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Did the alchemist guild exist in Westeros prior to the conquest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Did the alchemist guild exist in Westeros prior to the conquest?Pretty sure they did.Once theirs had been a powerful guild, but in recent centuries the maesters of the Citadel had supplanted the alchemists almost everywhere. Now only a few of the older order remained, and they no longer even pretended to transmute metals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not in the face Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 According to this timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj_uNZmcJaTddG9BVU5tRnJJTE5KcE5JRkFha1ZfNUE&type=view&gid=8&f=true&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&page=-1&rowsperpage=250Cersei's trial is on 6/22/300. Shouldn't Jon have mentioned Cersei's fate by now? The wall is always the last to know but It has been three weeks since the trial and not a word. Jon goes down on 7/14/300. Is ii safe to assume she won her trail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crow's Third Eye Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 According to this timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj_uNZmcJaTddG9BVU5tRnJJTE5KcE5JRkFha1ZfNUE&type=view&gid=8&f=true&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&page=-1&rowsperpage=250Cersei's trial is on 6/22/300. Shouldn't Jon have mentioned Cersei's fate by now? The wall is always the last to know but It has been three weeks since the trial and not a word. Jon goes down on 7/14/300. Is ii safe to assume she won her trail?Timelines aren't 100% accurate so we ca say for certain that 3 weeks have passed. For all we know Cersei's trial may have been only a week ago or even occurring during Jons assassination. Also bear in mind he hasn't heard about Kevans death, Martin is either avoiding spoilers or the NW is more cut off than ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fourth Head Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 a couple of questions I have been wracking my brains over:1) In ADWD, when Varys and Tyrion are talking, they have this exchange:"You knew what she was" (a whore)"I did, but I never knew what he was"Varys tittered "and now you do"So what was Tywin? Is there a blindingly obvious, one word answer I'm missing, or is it down to the reader to interpret?2) In AFFC, Cercei said she would deal with Jon Snow by sending 100 Lannister-loyal men to the wall to infiltrate/assassinate him. What happened?Does this connect with Bowen Marsh in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 a couple of questions I have been wracking my brains over:1) In ADWD, when Varys and Tyrion are talking, they have this exchange:"You knew what she was" (a whore)"I did, but I never knew what he was"Varys tittered "and now you do"So what was Tywin? Is there a blindingly obvious, one word answer I'm missing, or is it down to the reader to interpret?2) In AFFC, Cercei said she would deal with Jon Snow by sending 100 Lannister-loyal men to the wall to infiltrate/assassinate him. What happened?Does this connect with Bowen Marsh in any way?1. It means Tywin was a hypocrite. I don't think it means anything else although it is better if someone else gives opinion as well2. That plan was to be set in motion if Osney had taken the black, but that never came to pass because of the High Sparrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 From the wiki: Tom once ran afoul of Edmure Tully when he stole a girl that Edmure was supposed to bed to take his virginity. Edmure had drunk too much and was unable to perform. Tom then made a song about a floppy fish, which led to Edmure's hatred of music. (Arya ch. 22, ASOS).Lots of theories actually.http://asoiaf.wester...yrek-lannister/http://asoiaf.wester...yrek-lannister/http://asoiaf.wester...yrek-lannister/http://asoiaf.wester...yrek-lannister/http://asoiaf.wester...ing-lannisters/Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fourth Head Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 1. It means Tywin was a hypocrite. I don't think it means anything else although it is better if someone else gives opinion as well2. That plan was to be set in motion if Osney had taken the black, but that never came to pass because of the High Sparrow.Thankyou Arya kiddin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Thankyou Arya kiddin'No probs. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaramyrSixchins Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 According to this timeline: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0Aj_uNZmcJaTddG9BVU5tRnJJTE5KcE5JRkFha1ZfNUE&type=view&gid=8&f=true&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&page=-1&rowsperpage=250Cersei's trial is on 6/22/300. Shouldn't Jon have mentioned Cersei's fate by now? The wall is always the last to know but It has been three weeks since the trial and not a word. Jon goes down on 7/14/300. Is ii safe to assume she won her trail?Nah, in the epilogue, Cersei's trial has yet to take place. In her small council meeting in Feast, she talks about Moat Cailin being freed by Ramsay & Co, & she's imprisoned not too long after that. It's more or less concurrent, so news hasn't had time to reach the Wall. Jon seems petty busy, too. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaramyrSixchins Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Pretty sure they did.That's actually the passage that prompted the question. "Recent centuries" is a vague phrase. It can cover the three since the conquest, or it can refer to an even longer period. I'm inclined to agree w you, that it's probably the latter, but I was curious as to whether or not this could be confirmed. Thanks for answering. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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