Arya is Awesome Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The books have a lot of important people (Illyrio, Viserys, Dany) under the impression that a Dothraki army could be key to conquering Westeros. But is it really?Pros:1) The Dothraki are fearsome warriors2) They have horses3) If Dany gains a khalasar, that could be thousands of soldiers on her sideCons:1) You need many ships to carry thousands of soldiers and horses across the Narrow Sea2) They would freeze to death in the North3) They would die of heat and dehydration in Dorne4) Their horses would be clumsy and practically useless in the mountains of the Vale or the swamps of the Neck.5) It would be impossible for them to attack the islands of Pyke.6) They have little experience (if any) with fighting fully armored knights, or seiging a castleThe only place I see them as being particularly useful would be in standard warfare against infantry or cavalry. But they would need to either draw out the enemy from their protective castles (Storms Reach, Casterly Rock, Highgarden), or somehow penetrate the castle walls. They could harass the smallfolk and burn the fields, but they would probably starve themselves before the castles fell.In short, they would only be useful if they were supplemented by experienced soldiers who have fought in Westeros (not the Unsullied) and know what strategies work. I think if Dany gained a khalasar and attacked Westeros, she would end up with many more casualties than victories. The dragons could help, but they were never part of the original plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gronzag Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 For a hundredth time NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Glokta Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Illyrio and Varys did not want the Dothraki to conquer Westeros, but only to cause mischief and then be destroyed by their savior Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyrion_skywalker Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 No they could not Dany's plan included some lords of Westeros rebelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 A good stern battle commander (Tywin, Stannis, Tarly) with 10,000 experienced pike infantry and secure flanks could mop the floor with the Dothraki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ghost- Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Pine Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I'd still enjoy a scene where 10,000 dothraki ride at full speed at a castle wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usrnmhsnomning Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 The extent of Dothraki battle strategy is charge at the enemy non-stop. This is why they lost to a much smaller force of Unsullied. Their understanding of combat is severely limited and easily exploitable. Jorah demonstrates this when he kills Qotho, who essentially considers Jorah a coward for wearing armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Robert's Warhammer Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drogon'sWrath Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 They would have caused some damage, but I think in the end they would've been beaten. Dany was also relying on other Westerosi lords joining her cause, but I think Dorne would have been the only kingdom to join her, and even that I'm not sure about. I find it strange that Robert even considered them a legitimate threat to the kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Aerys the Just Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Logically they shouldn't, but GRRM may think differently considering how fearsome a reputation he has giveb them. It's hard to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 In short, they would only be useful if they were supplemented by experienced soldiers who have fought in Westeros (not the Unsullied) and know what strategies work. I think if Dany gained a khalasar and attacked Westeros, she would end up with many more casualties than victories. The dragons could help, but they were never part of the original plan.Sounds exactly like Illyrio Monpatis plan.Except, of course, he didn't tell any of it to Danny and she went all Sparatcus in Slaver's Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Dragonstone Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 They have literally zero experience with siege craft, but could simply ravage the countryside for years and starve everyone into submission.However I think Westeros could probably martial a greater combined military force than the Dothraki. If there were one massive battle I would say Westeros would win. But if 50000 screamers landed and attacked smaller groups of Westerosi one at a time, they could inflict a long string of defeats. However, I can't imagine they have the manpower or resources to actually subdue the entire 7 kingdoms, unless some powerful Lords decide to join them(unlikely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackStark Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 They would have caused some damage, but I think in the end they would've been beaten. Dany was also relying on other Westerosi lords joining her cause, but I think Dorne would have been the only kingdom to join her, and even that I'm not sure about. I find it strange that Robert even considered them a legitimate threat to the kingdom.I think Robert realized how fragile his dynasty truly was and while the Dothraki alone were not a threat they could exert enough pressure to expose the fractures that eventually made themselves known after his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 A Dothraki army could never conquer Westeros unless some powerful Westerosi lords join their cause which seems highly unlikely. It is also quite likely that the Dothraki would suffer some significant losses crossing the Narrow sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhymes with Weak Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Finally, the impossible is done. 15 answers in a row making sense. That's unheard of in the entire net. I'm proud of you, westeros.orgLogically they shouldn't, but GRRM may think differently considering how fearsome a reputation he has giveb them. It's hard to say.Actually, GRRM has pointed out that their fearsome reputation is entirely unwarranted. And in fact, they are only feared by the smallfolk who'd suffer under their pillaging before they get curbstomped by an army, any army at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebara Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 No, not alone but I think Dany will collect their khalasar as a part of her forces thanks to Drogon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavosSeaworthy Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Nope, not a chance. Way too many variables that would have to fall into place in order for this to be sucessful and their is almost no way they could pull off the political arrangements to get the amount of allies they would need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drexyon7 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Nope, not by themselves but as a supplementary light calvary they would be devastating. Attacking supply lines and pillaging. They would be a highly mobile and highly effective force in the right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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