Atropis the Elf Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Okay so what the hell was Todd gonna say to Mr. White before Jesse Anton Chigurhed him That piece of s*** can rot in seven hells, for all I care. His death felt so good and just than anyone else's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chun-Li Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yeah, Jesse killing Todd and the laugh/cry that he gave driving away were the best things to happen in this episode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalibakCruel Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Okay so what the hell was Todd gonna say to Mr. White before Jesse Anton Chigurhed him Love the use of the "Chugurged". Honestly, I've watched the scene a few times, and since the first time, it always struck me like he was going to say in his todd dead innocent talking way "Mr. White, your cars on fire" (fire in the back where the gun was). It seems very Todd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdyphillip Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I do believe that if William Shakespeare was a contemporary artist and released his works today, there would be people on the internet talking about his unsatisfying writing. I would write a long post right now comparing Vince Gilligan and his writing crew to Shakespeare, but I am absolutely exhausted from working overnight right after watching the perfect conclusion to the perfect story... I will delve later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzanadra Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Holy.... that was amazing..... oh my gawd..... In my opinion on of the the best endings to a TV show. "Conclusive" and "satisfying" is how I would describe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerMixalot Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I guess I am in a very small minority. I have mixed feelings about the finale. I hated seeing Walt win in the end. I hated that he was able to get closure on all of his issues. I really hated Walt towards the end. I also found the finale predictable, but I have only myself to blame for reading these threads and all the great insight by the posters. I did like that they were able to bring closure to all the story lines and that is great for a series finale, but I feel so bad for all of the people's lives he destroyed or made to live in terror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straits Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Don't know about the complaints, I loved it. I wasn't expecting to be "shocked" or "blown away". I was expecting resolution, and in some ways I got it. It was perfect. Walt's story finally ended, but everything else he created still exists. I think people need to see it more as not being "tidy and predictable" but as Walts story coming to its logical conclusion. The world goes on without Walt. All his pride, all his want and need to build an empire and to be Heisenberg, and in the end the world keeps going, and he doesn't. That's how I see it anyways. It was Walt being Walt. Now he/Heisenberg are gone, but everything they created still exists. I liked it. I don't know. It didn't sat better with me than the ending to the Sopranos (which I eventually came to love, but still, that took time). Given the flash forwards, how else could it have ended anyways? Ozymandias was the real "finale" of BB. This was just the finale of Walt, and it was great. +1. This was a satisfying ending. I'm glad he admitted whom he really committed his deeds for, though I suppose Walt gets the closure that people affected by him do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chun-Li Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Okay so what the hell was Todd gonna say to Mr. White before Jesse Anton Chigurhed him This according to reddit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straits Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 This according to reddit. :laugh: I was under the impression that Todd was about to remark on Walt's brilliance. He's held Walt in high regard, and probably couldn't help but admire his method (though I'm not sure why the car was not thoroughly checked by default). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbye World Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 It's quite a coincidence that after the machine gun fire the only people who remained alive were Todd (who needed to be killed by Jesse), Jesse (who needed to kill Todd and survive), Jack (who needed to be killed by Walt), and Walt who had to kill Jack and "say" goodbye to Jesse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 (though I'm not sure why the car was not thoroughly checked by default).The nazi in the car should also been wondering why Walt wouldn't listen to him on where to park, but that's just nitpicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 It's quite a coincidence that after the machine gun fire the only people who remained alive were Todd (who needed to be killed by Jesse), Jesse (who needed to kill Todd and survive), Jack (who needed to be killed by Walt), and Walt who had to kill Jack and "say" goodbye to Jesse.I thought the same thing, but its understandable why they did it that way, both their deaths were so satisfying. Especially Todd's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ashes Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 For one fleeting second there close to the end, I thought Walt was gonna resume cooking as he picked up the gas mask and affectionately, um, caressed the tank. :PAnyway, very satisfying ending. I wish Marie had gotten something more substantial than being on the phone with Skylar for the last ep but that's my only complaint.And maybe leaving that ominous cloud in Lydia's tea as a hint to what her fate is rather than confirming for sureWalt poisoned her.Certainly would be a more interesting mystery than what that rube was gonna say before Jesse strangled him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straits Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yeah, it's a series of neat strokes on the writers' part. I do not see why a "believable" random effect would need to be introduced in order to appease a realist watching the TV show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbye World Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I liked Todd a lot before the last two episodes but I agree Jesse killing him was great. I also loved the fact that Jesse's two friends appeared briefly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropis the Elf Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The nazi in the car should also been wondering why Walt wouldn't listen to him on where to park, but that's just nitpicking. In a previous episode, Todd said "We are the boss now". This incident with the parking spot probably adds to the non-existent professionalism of the Nazi-way to do things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbye World Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Yeah, it's a series of neat strokes on the writers' part. I do not see why a "believable" random effect would need to be introduced in order to appease a realist watching the TV show. I don't want it to be totally believable but to have exactly the four individuals that you need survive machine gun fire out of a dozen or so people is a stretch. In a previous episode, Todd said "We are the boss now". This incident with the parking spot probably adds to the non-existent professionalism of the Nazi-way to do things. To be fair they would have won if it weren't for the interview that Walt saw in the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atropis the Elf Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 To be fair they would have won if it weren't for the interview that Walt saw in the bar. To be fair, a lot of things would/could have been different if it wasn't for decisions made on a whim, or other coincidental occurrences :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Rodrigo Belmonte Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 How did Walt manage to slip her the ricin? ? Did he pay off the waiter? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straits Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I don't want it to be totally believable but to have exactly the four individuals that you need survive machine gun fire out of a dozen or so people is a stretch. Jesse and Walt were on the floor level, and the likelihood of them getting hit was negligible. It's more of a stretch to have Walt hurt and killed by his own bullet, not the fact that he survived. I agree that Jack stayed alive purely in order to have Walt end him more intimately. Picking at the finale on its own would have you disregard the leaps that stretched plausible outcome throughout the entire show. Enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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