Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I mean the rebellion was in full swing. Robert was inconsolable but I'm almost positive Rhaegar was planning a coup, or at least planning to remove his father from power. There would e no chance of peace between Rhaegar and Robert but had Rhaegar slew Robert on the trident would he try to kill Ned? Ned seems to have held Rhaegar in high regard so he likely wasnt really angry with him so there is the chance of peace between them and plus if you believe Rhaegar and Lyanna were in love then I don't think Lyanna would be very happy her hubby killed her bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0bR Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ultimately Rhaegar found an opening and stabbed Robert straight through the visor of his antlered helm. As the plated behemoth in front of him fell down, the Dragon smiled. "Now I can finally get straight back to some prophetic kinky fuc..." the silver haired prince did not manage to finish his victory speech as the ever sharp cold blade of a Valyrian greatsword cut his stupid head off in one clean swing, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barty Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ultimately Rhaegar found an opening and stabbed Robert straight through the visor of his antlered helm. As the plated behemoth in front of him fell down, the Dragon smiled. "Now I can finally get straight back to some prophetic kinky fuc..." the silver haired prince did not manage to finish his victory speech as the ever sharp cold blade of a Valyrian greatsword cut his stupid head off in one clean swing, :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Would Rhaegar kill the brother of the lady he loved, after his father killed her eldest brother and father?? My first thought was, no! Yet, as I think about it, I'd say it depends... It depends on if Rhaegar would agree to give Lyanna back, or explain what the hell was going on in that situation, and whether or not Rhaegar would dispose his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barty Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I mean the rebellion was in full swing. Robert was inconsolable but I'm almost positive Rhaegar was planning a coup, or at least planning to remove his father from power. There would e no chance of peace between Rhaegar and Robert but had Rhaegar slew Robert on the trident would he try to kill Ned? Ned seems to have held Rhaegar in high regard so he likely wasnt really angry with him so there is the chance of peace between them and plus if you believe Rhaegar and Lyanna were in love then I don't think Lyanna would be very happy her hubby killed her bro. I think Ned truly thought that Rhaegar had kidnapped and raped Lyanna right up until the ToJ, and hence would have had no qualms about killing Rhaegar at the Trident. As for Rhaegar - well he didn't lift a finger to stop the war or to reach a peaceful conclusion with the Ned which probably means he didn't care who died so long as he got to be King and the father of AAR at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ned was his good brother Ned is a very good swordsman too, I don't think we can predict the outcome of such a battle Ned is awesome and I don't want him to lose to a pimp. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackStark Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I mean the rebellion was in full swing. Robert was inconsolable but I'm almost positive Rhaegar was planning a coup, or at least planning to remove his father from power. There would e no chance of peace between Rhaegar and Robert but had Rhaegar slew Robert on the trident would he try to kill Ned? Ned seems to have held Rhaegar in high regard so he likely wasnt really angry with him so there is the chance of peace between them and plus if you believe Rhaegar and Lyanna were in love then I don't think Lyanna would be very happy her hubby killed her bro. A few questions for you please: Is there any tangible evidence that Rhaegar was planning to remove Aerys from power? (I ask because all of his actions work to undercut any support he would have hoped to gain from the Lord Paramounts and high nobility and there is little evidence that absent the murder of Rickard and Brandon and the call for the heads of Robert and Eddard there was much groundswell for Aerys' removal) How does a fleeting thought that he didn't think Rhaegar frequented brothels transform in Ned holding Rhaegar in high regard? What makes you think it would even be Rhaegar's call to spare Ned's life? Aerys is the king and you have just fought and won a war to validate his claim and rights so it would be his decision, not Rhaegar's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reek Da Villain Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Did Rhaegar kill anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Did Rhaegar kill anyone? Her wife's feelings; pretty much yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Did Rhaegar kill anyone? Directly, maybe a few. Indirectly... Thousands!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon's Queen Consort Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ultimately Rhaegar found an opening and stabbed Robert straight through the visor of his antlered helm. As the plated behemoth in front of him fell down, the Dragon smiled. "Now I can finally get straight back to some prophetic kinky fuc..." the silver haired prince did not manage to finish his victory speech as the ever sharp cold blade of a Valyrian greatsword cut his stupid head off in one clean swing, :bowdown: :lmao: :rofl: :lmao: :bowdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanml82 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 At the Trident? There was a battle going on, so I'd subscribe to CobR post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickeen Baratheon Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 All I know that if it did happen, Rhaegar would've owned Ned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiasyd Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ultimately Rhaegar found an opening and stabbed Robert straight through the visor of his antlered helm. As the plated behemoth in front of him fell down, the Dragon smiled. "Now I can finally get straight back to some prophetic kinky fuc..." the silver haired prince did not manage to finish his victory speech as the ever sharp cold blade of a Valyrian greatsword cut his stupid head off in one clean swing, Amazing! Just as satisfying as Janos Slynt decapitation or Joffrey choking to death. :leer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coatzin Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 And why Ned would make peace?... Targs kill his father and brother... and his best friend... If Lyanna wanted to be with Rhaegar shouldn't make a difference... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Obviously. Rhaegar doesn't care about who or what he hurts. If he returned to Lyanna he would have told her that killing all the Starks was justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltigar Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ned is a very good swordsman too, I don't think we can predict the outcome of such a battle NO. For the 10000000000000th time Ned was not a very good swordsman in the books, Martin has stated that Ned was no more than average as a swordfighter (as a commander he was great though). Rhaegar would have destroyed Ned if he wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya kiddin' Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 NO. For the 10000000000000th time Ned was not a very good swordsman in the books, Martin has stated that Ned was no more than average as a swordfighter (as a commander he was great though). Rhaegar would have destroyed Ned if he wanted to. Rhaegar was not exceptional either. I said "too" because I put both of them at par, and Ned additionally was armed with Valyrian Steel. Rhaegar was the best jouster in the realm apparently, but I'm not sure how good he was with the sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agamemnon Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 NO. For the 10000000000000th time Ned was not a very good swordsman in the books, Martin has stated that Ned was no more than average as a swordfighter (as a commander he was great though). Rhaegar would have destroyed Ned if he wanted to. Got to give the edge to the 6 feet of Valyrian steel, even if the Ned was just an average fighter, it wouldnt be hard to get around Rhaegar's pewny longsword and give him a de-necking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman1863 Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I think Jaime's memory about Rhaegar saying that things were going to have to change and that he intended to call a Great Council indicates that Rhaegar intended to deal with the rebels leniently. That he would be the one calling for the council seems to demonstrate that he had an intention of removing his father from power, de facto if not in name. That indicates that he knew that some rebel grievances had merit. These are much more generous terms than he might have imposed. I think Rhaegar would have been prepared to kill Ned in battle and that in terms of the physical match up he had the clear advantage as a warrior. But there is no guarantee that they would have come to blows personally. If Rheagar had killed Robert it may be that the rebel force would have been demoralized and collapsed as the royal army ended up doing when Rhaegar died. I think if Ned were to escape the defeat with his life he and the rest of the lords would have been given pardons in exchange to cease resistance. Rhaegar calling a council and installing himself as a regent is even more concilliatory. I think Ned would have seen sense in this- recall that while Rhaegar taking Lyanna was the catalyst to the war, rebellion was actually sparked by the actions of Aerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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