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Victarion's Secret?


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#1 ugashep

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:41 AM

Vic is written as the ultimate macho character to the point that it is freaking hilarious, someone told me the other day they thought he was a repressed homosexual. I say hell no. What do you think?



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:46 AM

right now he is banging the slave euron gave him and the hate he has for him comes because of a woman. Also he is planing to steal Daenerys for himself.....Your friend is reading other books, for sure.

Edited by Señor de la Tormenta, 21 October 2013 - 11:49 AM.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:47 AM

Anything goes at sea.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:47 AM

I thought the title said Victoria's secret



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:49 AM

I thought the title said Victoria's secret

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:50 AM

I don't think this logic really applies... He's not trying to overcompensate anything, it's just that Ironborn are kind of lame.

 

What really amuses me is how on a book with so many great characters people choose to love... Victarion, the Dumb. Yeah, great fun Martin, being inside the head of the dumbest man on Westeros.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:50 AM

I thought the title said Victoria's secret

There's a fashion show I'd watch though.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 11:56 AM

Victarion's Secret is your go-to retailer for armor that is functional, but with the right touch of naughty and sassy.

But yeah, if he were gay there would be more hints of this in his POV

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:03 PM

I mean, a MENSA candidate he's not, but what makes him the biggest Idiot in Westeros? That he didn't know the Dothraki Sea isn't actually a sea? 



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:08 PM

Is it possible to be that straight though? I call repression.

He obviously didn't kill his wife because Euron slept with her. It was because she slept with Euron. 



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:08 PM

I don't think this logic really applies... He's not trying to overcompensate anything, it's just that Ironborn are kind of lame.
 
What really amuses me is how on a book with so many great characters people choose to love... Victarion, the Dumb. Yeah, great fun Martin, being inside the head of the dumbest man on Westeros.


How isnt victorian lovable?

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:10 PM

What really amuses me is how on a book with so many great characters people choose to love... Victarion, the Dumb. Yeah, great fun Martin, being inside the head of the dumbest man on Westeros.

But he's actually quite funny to read. His chapters are full of Irony.

 

Oh and on topic I don't think he's gay.


Edited by The BlackBear, 21 October 2013 - 12:15 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:12 PM

Doubtful. Just because a man is overtly macho, it doesn't ipso facto mean he's a repressed homosexual. I mean it happens, sure, and in a culture like the Ironborn (I use the term culture lightly here), it's probably even more prevalent than the rest of Westeros.

 

Even so, I see no signs of that in Victarion - he's just not complex enough to be a repressed anything. I do give him a pass on the "Dothraki Sea" thing though, it's a fair enough mistake to make outside of the educated classes IMO. Of course Victarion, being a prince, is part of the educated classes, but even so...



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:15 PM

How isnt victorian lovable?

 

Violent psychopath being obviously fooled by his smarter, cooler, older brother who used to rape him. What is there to love besides 'I'm badass and competent in killing things"?

 

I know, I know... His chapters are a nice read because things actually happen. In a few chapters he gets to Essos and gets Dany a fleet, FINALLY. 

 

But I don't like him as a POV. It's like: "Me hate Euron. Me steal Euron's pretty dragon bride. Me sacrifice innocent women but keep fucking Euron's obvious spy".

 

I mean... Can Victarion get any dumber?


Edited by Dany the Mad Queen, 21 October 2013 - 12:16 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:26 PM

I think his recalling of the dude he killed when taking the Shield islands was kinda gay. His plans with Daenerys don't really mean anything, it is a thing of pride, not a thing of lust. He enjoys doing women, but I think he admires brave men more than is usual. I'd say either bi, or a suppressed gay.

 

Even so, I see no signs of that in Victarion - he's just not complex enough to be a repressed anything.

On the contrary, I think that if a simple-minded gay is told that doing it with women is the right way, he'll do it that way without thinking about it much.


Edited by Frozentree, 21 October 2013 - 12:27 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:28 PM

Violent psychopath being obviously fooled by his smarter, cooler, older brother who used to rape him.

There's no indication Victarion was abused by Euron. Aeron on the other hand...

 

Whenerv I see Aeron I always want to add C rescue,so he's Aeron C Rescure, (it's a pun.)


Edited by The BlackBear, 21 October 2013 - 12:29 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:30 PM

 

Violent psychopath being obviously fooled by his smarter, cooler, older brother who used to rape him. What is there to love besides 'I'm badass and competent in killing things"?

 

I know, I know... His chapters are a nice read because things actually happen. In a few chapters he gets to Essos and gets Dany a fleet, FINALLY. 

 

But I don't like him as a POV. It's like: "Me hate Euron. Me steal Euron's pretty dragon bride. Me sacrifice innocent women but keep fucking Euron's obvious spy".

 

I mean... Can Victarion get any dumber?

 

 

I HATED him my first reading, but he's honestly grown on me. He's so stupid and uber-macho that it's amusing to me. Sort of a caricature of the hero's villianous enemy in the poorly written 80's action movies that my dad made me sit through. 

 

ETA: I don't get a gay vibe from him.


Edited by Blueberry Stark, 21 October 2013 - 12:32 PM.


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:31 PM

Didn't he get aroused by Asha ( :ack: )? I don't see it and it'd really help if you could quote text to support it.

 

Now, Ned I can see the arguments for being either bi or gay. But Vic? No.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:34 PM

There would be hints if he was gay.

 

I always thought Joffrey was a repressed homosexual though.



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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:40 PM

There would be hints if he was gay.

 

I always thought Joffrey was a repressed homosexual though.

 

Never thought  I'd ever be the one to say this but, y'all be seeing too much gay.

 

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