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Which characters would ve crossed the line Daenerys did in Astapor killing all the slavers older than 13? Part 2!


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#1 E-Ro

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:24 AM

Have at it again folks. And remember I love you all. Well most of you.(jk I really do love you all)

#2 Winter's Knight

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:26 AM

Ro-ro, that last thread kinda fried the coke. I don't see how you can top that.



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:28 AM

None of them.

 

At this point, I see it as a pragmatic move from Dany.

 

"Take out all the other slavers so I'll have an easier time with slaving in the future"

 

I legitimately believe that was her goal.

 

She has shown that she is okay with slavery and profiting from it when it suits her



#4 E-Ro

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:28 AM

Ro-ro, that last thread kinda fried the coke. I don't see how you can top that.

If I can achieve a fraction of the greatness that was the last thread I will be happy. No need to top it brah. I think everyone being at each other's throats like that is healthy.

#5 aceluby

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:30 AM

Ro-ro, that last thread kinda fried the coke. I don't see how you can top that.

 

LOL!



#6 MoIaF

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:33 AM

None of them.

 

At this point, I see it as a pragmatic move from Dany.

 

"Take out all the other slavers so I'll have an easier time with slaving in the future"

 

I legitimately believe that was her goal.

 

She has shown that she is okay with slavery and profiting from it when it suits her

 

You're joking, right?



#7 DaarioKnowsBest

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:36 AM

No way to know really.

The NW doesn't kill Craster, Jon acts like we wanted to but he wasn't LC at the time.
The NW leaves Craster alive because he helps them out and aids them on rangings.
Hardly moral superiority.
If he provided no aid to the NW, would they just kill him and set his wives free? Maybe.
Craster wasn't in war, he was just a peaceful man???

Edited by DaarioKnowsBest, 15 November 2013 - 11:37 AM.


#8 Winter's Knight

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:37 AM

If I can achieve a fraction of the greatness that was the last thread I will be happy. No need to top it brah. I think everyone being at each other's throats like that is healthy.

 

 

Pshaw, you just like "arguing" with me.  :leer:



#9 mighty potato

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

E-RO , the king of sequels and reboots :D

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:38 AM

None of them.

 

At this point, I see it as a pragmatic move from Dany.

 

"Take out all the other slavers so I'll have an easier time with slaving in the future"

 

I legitimately believe that was her goal.

 

She has shown that she is okay with slavery and profiting from it when it suits her

 

That would make her story line way more interesting

 

Dany, Queen of Slaves



#11 Aeternum

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:40 AM

At this point, I see it as a pragmatic move from Dany.

 

Dany is many things, but "pragmatic" isn't one of them. It was a spur-of-the-moment emotional OMG THE FEELS decision, like most of the things she does.

 

(Contrast this with Stannis' assassination of Renly, which was very pragmatic even though it went against Stannis' morality. The Mannis doesn't regret doing it, although he's still very guilt-stricken about killing his younger bro.)


Edited by Aeternum, 15 November 2013 - 11:44 AM.


#12 DaarioKnowsBest

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:42 AM

None of them.
 
At this point, I see it as a pragmatic move from Dany.
 
"Take out all the other slavers so I'll have an easier time with slaving in the future"
 
I legitimately believe that was her goal.
 
She has shown that she is okay with slavery and profiting from it when it suits her


Yes, because her attempts at slowing down slavery have made things so much easier for her.

#13 Winter's Knight

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:42 AM

 

Dany is many things, but "pragmatic" isn't one of them. It was a spur-of-the-moment emotional OMG THE FEELS decision, like most of the things she does.

 

No, she planned it. She needed the Unsullied and obviously couldn't afford all of them.

 

The decision was not entirely altruisic.



#14 aceluby

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:42 AM

 

No, she planned it. She needed the Unsullied and obviously couldn't afford all of them.

 

The decision was not entirely altruisic.

 

Yeah, that part is pretty obvious. 



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:43 AM

Some characters would have gone further and killed everyone. Some wouldn't kill anyone. Dany falls in the middle.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:45 AM

 
No, she planned it. She needed the Unsullied and obviously couldn't afford all of them.
 
The decision was not entirely altruisic.

Well, she could afford the price, she chose not to pay it.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:49 AM

 

No, she planned it. She needed the Unsullied and obviously couldn't afford all of them.

 

The decision was not entirely altruisic.

 

I know.

 

I'm not talking about her calculated betrayal of the slavers and taking control of the Unsullied, which was obviously planned all along. What I meant was her revenge on the Astapori by killing all free men older than 13. I seriously doubt the newly-freed Unsullied checked the ID of everyone they killed.

 

The random crucifixion of 300 people in Meereen follows the same kind of revenge-based "logic". It's very unlikely that 300 people were responsible for killing 300 slave children, but Dany doesn't even think about this once - it's all about her personal need for revenge. It'd be analogous to Abraham Lincoln having every Southern white man older than 13 executed.


Edited by Aeternum, 15 November 2013 - 11:54 AM.


#18 Nictarion

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:54 AM

 
I know.
 
I'm not talking about her calculated betrayal of the slavers and taking control of the Unsullied, which was obviously planned all along. What I meant was her revenge on the Astapori by killing all free men older than 13. I seriously doubt the newly-freed Unsullied checked the ID of everyone they killed.
 
The random crucifixion of 300 people in Meereen follows the same kind of revenge-based "logic". It's very unlikely that 300 people were responsible for killing 300 slave children, but Dany doesn't even think about this once - it's all about her personal need for revenge.

It was 163.

#19 DaarioKnowsBest

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:54 AM

What I meant was her revenge on the Astapori by killing all free men older than 13.


Proof that all free men over 13 were wearing tokars???

#20 David Selig

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 11:55 AM

 

You're joking, right?

Baiting, more likely.