what will be the military/political situation in westeros after the boltons are gone?

[Bannerman of Winterfell]

One way or the other the boltons are going to die out. Only roose and ramsay remains of their evil house. If stannis wins, then roose and ramsay will have their heads on spike.

Even if stannis loses and dies, the boltons will perish. Roose will probably kill ramsay, i got suspicious when roose told theon that he would allow his hated bastard to kill his new children. This is clearly a ruse to make ramsay believe he is safe. Plus before the red wedding roose talked to catelyn about that..... while ramsay also silently absorbs his fathers insults after becoming legitimate that is also mysterious....

Plus whoresbane and manderly may turn on them and butcher them.

And if one of them is dead, the other will die soon, either to melisandre's demon assassin or to jon snow's sword.

What will be the military situation then? Stannis or jon snow heading the northern lords, littlefinger comes to the north with the army of the vale to conquer it in sansa's name. Davos arrives with rickon, a dance of wolves maybe? brother vs sister, stannis vs littlefinger. Littlefinger gutted by the shadow( unlikely).

Will the northern lords want to follow stannis after defeating the boltons? they don't give a horse shit about the south or stannis's throne they just want the boltons out and the starks in.

House lannister is militarily powerless at this point. No leader, tywin, kevan dead, jaime lost. Their army scattered, some in dragonstone, some in the riverlands, some in the rock, some in the capital. No one follow cersei but devan is another case...but still they suffered large losses in the war and are at the last length of their reserves. They will neither be able to go north nor will they be able to take on aegon in the south.

House tyrell is still mighty but is also spread out. Mace and randyll are at kingslanding but will head out to take aegon on but lord may have an ambush or unpleasant battle plan waiting for them.

Garlan and willias have half the army but are unable to move it in fear of the ironborn raids or invasion.

Lord redwyne comes with his grand fleet to crush euron but the crow's eye has unconventional plans and magic on his side. He might trap and destroy redwyne while he's crossing the dornish straits but likely sending a part of his fleet in a dangerous wide maneuver across the deep sea.

All this leaves highgarden unable to put soldiers in the north or in the vale.

The iron throne may just collapse.

what could be the outcome?

[E-Ro]

After stannis kicks the shit out of the boltons it will be a four way war between the tyrells, faegon, stannis, and the ironborn. Who will win that is anyone's guess(hint, it won't be the ironborn).

As for the vale, Sansa is not going to be in LFs clutches for much longer and she sure as hell isn't going to fight any of her siblings. I think she will use the vales power to support rickon in the north as well as to aid stannis either at the wall or in the south.

Danny's arrival in westeros is a huge wildcard at this point. I have no idea what the reaction to her showing up will be.

[The guy from the Vale]

After stannis kicks the shit out of the boltons it will be a four way war between the tyrells, faegon, stannis, and the ironborn. Who will win that is anyone's guess(hint, it won't be the ironborn).

As for the vale, Sansa is not going to be in LFs clutches for much longer and she sure as hell isn't going to fight any of her siblings. I think she will use the vales power to support rickon in the north as well as to aid stannis either at the wall or in the south.

Danny's arrival in westeros is a huge wildcard at this point. I have no idea what the reaction to her showing up will be.

Hint: If the Ironborn manage to ally with Dany, they might very well win, at least in the short term...

[E-Ro]

Hint: If the Ironborn manage to ally with Dany, they might very well win, at least in the short term...

I'm not so sure brah. I think dany allying with them would do her more harm then good. As well, I think the reach will be able to stomp on the ironborn before dany Even shows up. Sure it's possible they might secure a short term gain(like they did at the north) but it won't last.

[Blutraven]

No way will any of the Stark kids fight each other. The Vale lords will most likely get rid of LF sooner rather than later (with Sansa's help) and Rickon will show up with Davos, hopefully with a horde of Skagosi. Sansa could become Lady of the Eyrie (if Sweetrobin dies) and will attempt to get the Vale to ally itself with the North. This massive bolstering to Stannis's army would most likely make some of the more Stark loyalist Riverlords declare for him (Blackwood, Mallister etc), if he can wipe out the Freys power and take Riverrun with plans to give it to a Tully he could win over the rest of the Riverlords, that means pretty much 3 of the 9 regions of Westeros will back him. If he does use Theon to overturn the kingsmoot he could potentially win over a Faction of the Ironborn. As Stannis would be helping Catelyn's kids get what is rightfully theirs, the BwB could potentially join him as well. Some Stormlords could come back over to him as well.

The Lannisters are fucked, their forces are all over the place and have no strong leadership, they have Daven and Genna but they could be killed at the RW 2.0 and Cersei will run them into the ground.

If the Lannisters are all but destroyed, the Tyrells will make a power grab for the throne, they could gain some allies in the Crownlands but probably not that many, and what with Stannis coming south and the Ironborn raiding they woun't be in too strong a position either.

Not sure what's going to happen with the Ironborn and Dany.

Dorne and some Crownlords will side with fAegon but it won't be enough for him to win.

ETA: Assuming Stannis doesn't return to the Wall after he takes Winterfell, he'll send some troops there but will still try to get the Throne.

[Welease Woger]

The military/political situation will be the following: the Wall will fall and it will be white walkers and wights versus everybody else. And don't forget the winter! Has anyone considered the possibility that Aegon will have to fight in the snow and that the Iron Fleet could become stuck in frozen waters?

[The guy from the Vale]

I'm not so sure brah. I think dany allying with them would do her more harm then good. As well, I think the reach will be able to stomp on the ironborn before dany Even shows up. Sure it's possible they might secure a short term gain(like they did at the north) but it won't last.

I don't think we disagree that much here, actually. I don't think allying with the Ironborn helps Dany control Westeros. It will help her conquer it though, and so we get the consistent pattern of Dany poisoning her rule from the start by allying with the most toxic elements of the society she sets out to conquer.

[RKOpanther]

The military/political situation will be the following: the Wall will fall and it will be white walkers and wights versus everybody else. And don't forget the winter! Has anyone considered the possibility that Aegon will have to fight in the snow and that the Iron Fleet could become stuck in frozen waters?

I agree and its going to be awesome. I WANNA SEE WIGHT WALKERS AT THE TWINS.

[Matoro]

I hope The Winds of Winter (or A Dance with Wolves) will be about triumph of Stark loyalists and Targaryens. Boltons and bastard king gets wiped out, Dany lands to Westeros, Jon becomes king... and then Others attack, the Wall falls, Aegon and Daenarys will tera each other to pieces, and everything will be in ruins.

[Bright Blue Eyes]

After stannis kicks the shit out of the boltons it will be a four way war between the tyrells, faegon, stannis, and the ironborn. Who will win that is anyone's guess(hint, it won't be the ironborn).

As for the vale, Sansa is not going to be in LFs clutches for much longer and she sure as hell isn't going to fight any of her siblings. I think she will use the vales power to support rickon in the north as well as to aid stannis either at the wall or in the south.

Danny's arrival in westeros is a huge wildcard at this point. I have no idea what the reaction to her showing up will be.

:agree:

Add the Wall falling during fortnight following the Ides of Marsh and the Others waging assymmetric warfare all over Westeros after that, without being recognized immediately in the South.

[Ramsay Gimp]

Roose is not a man to be undone. I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes the series as Lord of the Dreadfort, if not Warden of the North

House Bolton might fall, or it might not. Don't count your chickens before they hatch

[Buckthorn]

Who says the Boltons will lose? Roose Bolton is probably 10 moves ahead of Stannis and the rest. His only flaw is that he has not gotten- his fuck-up son- Ramsay killed.

[Neilos]

I'm not inclined to believe Lord Bolton will die at Winterfell; he's not the kind to go down with the ship. He's probably kept an "escape contingency plan" ever since Tywin died. He'll escape death and capture, just as he did after the Battle of the Green Fork. Not at all sure where he'll go, though... if Bolton falls, Frey will look even less secure.

The military situation in the North will be one of uneasy peace between the Northern Lords and Stannis, I imagine. There will be suspicion, but there will also be a recognition that neither are the true enemies. Maybe some advantageous alliances can be made.

In King's Landing, the Tyrells will be the essential power bloc, with a small vestige of Lannister/ Baratheon legitimacy in the form of Tommen and a few other representatives.

As a last note, I don't get the impression that Euron cares much about his forces. Just as the Ironborn invaders that garrisoned Moat Cailin were left starving by Balon, they won't be given the support they need by Euron, either, really. To Euron, they were always just a means to an end.

[Tony Stark of Winterfell]

The GNC is most likely a real thing. stannis and bolton will lose, and jon will be raised as the new KITN. In fact BR will tell him of his parentage (R+L). It would be interesting if howland reed showed up at just the right moment after jon is resurrected to confirm this to the world. i guess stannis will be the new lc of the wall. militarily, the north will be replenished by the wildling forces. jon will probably have to train them a bit in disciplined warfare and arm them with good quality steel.

Sansa might just go against jon, you never know. She never really considered him to be one of her true siblings, and she has exhibited a dangerous combination of stupidity and selfishness in the past. But even if she did, the forces of the vale with die at moat cailin, just like every other southern army before them. and the fact that manderly has built an impressive fleet means that a naval invasion will be very difficult for the vale. even if they do land troops, jon has his own personal army of wildlings. he has mammoths,giants and wargs, not to mention mel. the vale doesn't stand a chance.

The north will be ready for any foe, except the others of course. If the wall comes crashing down they are in for a world of pain.

Meanwhile in the south,

This is from arianne's WoW sample chapter. teora is most likely has greensight.

It was then that pasty, pudgy Teora raised her eyes from the creamcakes on her plate. "It is dragons."

"Dragons?" said her mother. "Teora, don’t be mad."

"I’m not. They’re coming."

"How could you possibly know that?" her sister asked, with a note of scorn in her voice. "One of your little dreams?"

Teora gave a tiny nod, chin trembling. "They were dancing. In my dream. And everywhere the dragons danced the people died."

There is going to be a dance of dragons in the south. dany will get to westeros, and clash with her likely blackfyre opponent aegon. the south will be ravaged. you've got ironborn reaving, dragons burning people alive, cersei up to her stupid plans and the tyrells and dorne in the middle of it all tearing each other to pieces.

[Sordelor]

Why do you are so shure the Boltons will just die, GRRM is not that kind of wrriter where all villains will automatically die (I hope), so he might let some of the bad guys survive.

[Tony Stark of Winterfell]

Why do you are so shure the Boltons will just die, GRRM is not that kind of wrriter where all villains will automatically die (I hope), so he might let some of the bad guys survive.

Things look grim for the boltons. Roose might escape but he will lose all his power.

[Caggo Corpsekiller]

Ah, I hope we somehow find out what happens to Rickon later on. I want to see a 18 year old Rickon emerge to claim the North beside a giant black direwolf.

[Addam of Hull]

I hope The Winds of Winter (or A Dance with Wolves) will be about triumph of Stark loyalists and Targaryens. Boltons and bastard king gets wiped out, Dany lands to Westeros, Jon becomes king... and then Others attack, the Wall falls, Aegon and Daenarys will tera each other to pieces, and everything will be in ruins.

The Winds of Winter has always been a kind of ominous name, and iirc GRRM has hinted that it will be a grim book, but I could definitely see the title also referring to a Stark resurgence in the works as well. The winds are blowing and winter is coming, along with the Starks.

[leviathan800]

The GNC is most likely a real thing. stannis and bolton will lose, and jon will be raised as the new KITN. In fact BR will tell him of his parentage (R+L). It would be interesting if howland reed showed up at just the right moment after jon is resurrected to confirm this to the world. i guess stannis will be the new lc of the wall. militarily, the north will be replenished by the wildling forces. jon will probably have to train them a bit in disciplined warfare and arm them with good quality steel.

Sansa might just go against jon, you never know. She never really considered him to be one of her true siblings, and she has exhibited a dangerous combination of stupidity and selfishness in the past. But even if she did, the forces of the vale with die at moat cailin, just like every other southern army before them. and the fact that manderly has built an impressive fleet means that a naval invasion will be very difficult for the vale. even if they do land troops, jon has his own personal army of wildlings. he has mammoths,giants and wargs, not to mention mel. the vale doesn't stand a chance.

The north will be ready for any foe, except the others of course. If the wall comes crashing down they are in for a world of pain.

Meanwhile in the south,

This is from arianne's WoW sample chapter. teora is most likely has greensight.

It was then that pasty, pudgy Teora raised her eyes from the creamcakes on her plate. "It is dragons."

"Dragons?" said her mother. "Teora, don’t be mad."

"I’m not. They’re coming."

"How could you possibly know that?" her sister asked, with a note of scorn in her voice. "One of your little dreams?"

Teora gave a tiny nod, chin trembling. "They were dancing. In my dream. And everywhere the dragons danced the people died."

There is going to be a dance of dragons in the south. dany will get to westeros, and clash with her likely blackfyre opponent aegon. the south will be ravaged. you've got ironborn reaving, dragons burning people alive, cersei up to her stupid plans and the tyrells and dorne in the middle of it all tearing each other to pieces.

So Jon, after being stabbed, and still considered a bastard (Stannis offered for him to be legit,but he refused) is suddenly going to become the King of the North?and When he learns he may be half Targaryen, the whole north is going get behind a dragon, really doubt that. At least Stannis has helped them.

Stannis best bet is to take Winterfell and hope that Davos finds Rickon. Then they would need to either wait out the winter or rest there for a while while maybe letting old Tommen and Aegon destroy/weaken each other. Sansa would help Stannis if he found her brother again, so the Vale would help but LF wouldnt. Stannis could make an alliance with Theon or Asha but if he would let them live the North banner-men would turn on him as they want Theon turnclock to die. The greyjoys are not the most reliable allies. But still the tyrells are still way to strong for any body taking them on directly

[Queen Alienor]

The GNC is most likely a real thing. stannis and bolton will lose, and jon will be raised as the new KITN. In fact BR will tell him of his parentage (R+L). It would be interesting if howland reed showed up at just the right moment after jon is resurrected to confirm this to the world. i guess stannis will be the new lc of the wall. militarily, the north will be replenished by the wildling forces. jon will probably have to train them a bit in disciplined warfare and arm them with good quality steel.

Sansa might just go against jon, you never know. She never really considered him to be one of her true siblings, and she has exhibited a dangerous combination of stupidity and selfishness in the past. But even if she did, the forces of the vale with die at moat cailin, just like every other southern army before them. and the fact that manderly has built an impressive fleet means that a naval invasion will be very difficult for the vale. even if they do land troops, jon has his own personal army of wildlings. he has mammoths,giants and wargs, not to mention mel. the vale doesn't stand a chance.

The north will be ready for any foe, except the others of course. If the wall comes crashing down they are in for a world of pain.

Meanwhile in the south,

This is from arianne's WoW sample chapter. teora is most likely has greensight.

It was then that pasty, pudgy Teora raised her eyes from the creamcakes on her plate. "It is dragons."

"Dragons?" said her mother. "Teora, don’t be mad."

"I’m not. They’re coming."

"How could you possibly know that?" her sister asked, with a note of scorn in her voice. "One of your little dreams?"

Teora gave a tiny nod, chin trembling. "They were dancing. In my dream. And everywhere the dragons danced the people died."

There is going to be a dance of dragons in the south. dany will get to westeros, and clash with her likely blackfyre opponent aegon. the south will be ravaged. you've got ironborn reaving, dragons burning people alive, cersei up to her stupid plans and the tyrells and dorne in the middle of it all tearing each other to pieces.

I'm not really familiar with the GNC, but there are a few points that stick out of your post:

Jon is not just going to be KITN. He is kind of stabbed, maybe dead, and definitively to far away from people like Maege Mormont or Galbart Glover, who may know of the will. I'm not sure, but wasn't our last info on them that they are at the Neck?

Also, Jon would never take the crown if he knew any of his siblings are still alive. Never. He said as much to Stannis "Winterfell belongs to my sister Sansa." . Also, Sansa going to war against any family member? Sorry, but did you read the same books as I did?