Darth Visenya Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Ok so he didn't get the Fisher account, return any videotapes or have a amazingly tasteful business card but otherwise you can't deny the striking similarities between these two men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mankytoes Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Not particularly, no more than any of the many other sociopathic serial killers in fiction. For example Bateman is extremely narcissistic and works on his appearance, whereas Ramsey is unattractive and doesn't seem particularly image conscious. He's much more concerned with causing others extreme prolonged agony. Plus Bateman is obviously secretive about his crimes, while Ramsey barely hides what he does. What specifically were you thinking of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trigger Warning Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What's this, Stannis' army is at my gates.'I have to return some video tapes.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Batemans whole thing is being an empty vessel, he sees what society values and reflects them onto himself with quite extreme examples. He's a Yuppy to the Nth degree, he objectifies women, he wants to look like everyones else(to the degree everyone keeps mistaking everyone to everyones else,) dinner reservations and good apartments are everything. Then because none of that gives him pleasure he murders people (in keeping with his created personality.) Ramsay kills because he has no patience and is insecure. American Psycho is a work of art, Reeks chapters (whilst bloody good) are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DraculaAD1972 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ramsey needs to spice up his torture sessions - with monologue reviews of music by Genesis and Huey Lewis and the News. Only then is he Bateman's equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose The Weddingcrasher Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Not particularly, no more than any of the many other sociopathic serial killers in fiction. For example Bateman is extremely narcissistic and works on his appearance, whereas Ramsey is unattractive and doesn't seem particularly image conscious. He's much more concerned with causing others extreme prolonged agony. Plus Bateman is obviously secretive about his crimes, while Ramsey barely hides what he does. :agree: What's this, Stannis' army is at my gates.'I have to return some video tapes.' :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I can relate to Patrick Bateman... "“All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit but look great." I don't think he's that much like Ramsey, aside from the obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Blackfyre Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I think Ramsey was a HUGE Huey Lewis fan, especially his mid-career albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioKnowsBest Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ramsay is more torturer than killerI believe he gets off on the torture and control partIt's been a while since I've seen AP so correct me if I'm wrong. Bateman gets off on the killing part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetrarch42 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I think Roose Bolton is closer to Patrick Bateman than Ramsay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I think Roose Bolton is closer to Patrick Bateman than Ramsay. In intelligence maybe, not in motive. Roose does what he does because he sees a chance to better his position. Patrick does what he does because he enjoys it, it gives him purpose in an otherwise meaningless life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Visenya Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Batemans whole thing is being an empty vessel, he sees what society values and reflects them onto himself with quite extreme examples. He's a Yuppy to the Nth degree, he objectifies women, he wants to look like everyones else(to the degree everyone keeps mistaking everyone to everyones else,) dinner reservations and good apartments are everything. Then because none of that gives him pleasure he murders people (in keeping with his created personality.) Ramsay kills because he has no patience and is insecure. American Psycho is a work of art, Reeks chapters (whilst bloody good) are not. Ok they are actually markedly different but their love of mindless killing and torture is somewhere they have common ground, surely thats got to count for something?. I really need to re watch American Psycho I haven't seen it in ages and it's so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Visenya Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ramsey needs to spice up his torture sessions - with monologue reviews of music by Genesis and Huey Lewis and the News. Only then is he Bateman's equal. I want to read in the WoW Ramsay caving Reeks head in while screaming hysterically "Get reservations at Dorsia now you fuck!!". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Ok they are actually markedly different but their love of mindless killing and torture is somewhere they have common ground, surely thats got to count for something?. I really need to re watch American Psycho I haven't seen it in ages and it's so good. Mindless? Even Ramsay isn't tottally mindless. Bateman plans the majority of his killings in advance and has tools laid aside for the job. Ramsay mainly kills and tortures as his whim takes him, but he showed a forethought with Reek he did not have elsewhere. Have you read the book? If you haven't, please do. It's a fucking masterpiece, far, far better than the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Visenya Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Mindless? Even Ramsay isn't tottally mindless. Bateman plans the majority of his killings in advance and has tools laid aside for the job. Ramsay mainly kills and tortures as his whim takes him, but he showed a forethought with Reek he did not have elsewhere. Have you read the book? If you haven't, please do. It's a fucking masterpiece, far, far better than the film. Yes I have read the book and agree, it's brilliant. I'm into... Well murders and executions. :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 “There’s no use in denying it: this has been a bad week. I’ve started drinking my own urine.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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