Lord Vance II

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  1. I like them. Robar Royce sounds like a total badass in his day who got beat by trickery.
  2. I feel like it has to have some type of magic just to stand up. It's 700 feet tall and what, maybe 75 feet wide? With winds whipping out of the north I feel like it would have toppled long ago if there wasn't some magic glue holding it together. Plus the pressure from the top would be too much for the base and it would probably "flow" like a glacier. I do seem to remember some bit about various Kings of Winter or Lord Commanders adding to the Wall, which I think would lend to a "it's just ice" argument, but I may be making that up.
  3. If you mean people in the forum, because of Amelia Clark, who's actually like 30, mainly. Plus how liberally folks in the books seem to use the word "beautiful." But it's not like being married off at 13 is strange in-world.
  4. He can't be king before Balon. Balon would have had to be king first or died long ago, or there would have had to be a Kingsmoot, which apparently hadn't been done in ages. And even if there was, I don't think Euron would have a better case than Balon. But about the same most likely. Maybe be more ambitious.
  5. The link between Jaime and the Valonqar is simple - He is technically her little brother. You just spent several paragraphs trying to build the link between Jaime and "younger and more beautiful," and a lot hinges on him aging better, which is kind of common in men. Always expecting the unexpected leaves you open to surprise by the mundane. Prophecy is a crapshoot anyways. I put a little more stock in this one because we know who made it and when, as opposed to prophecies thousands of years old. But for all we know Cersei mis-remembers it decades later and Arya will murder her or something.
  6. I think the qualifier "enter your mother's Faith and become the High Septon" is pretty key. You can't be High Septon if you keep the Old Gods (unless you believe Howland is the High Septon, I suppose) and the Starks are pretty vehemently and famously of the Old Gods. The other two examples don't need a qualifier because, as you said, they've been done before by Starks. The third does because it has not. The maesters don't use their surnames, but folks still know. Manderly talks about how his maester was a Lannister of Lannisport and he can't trust him. Even if he didn't use the name, folks would know he was a Stark because of the novelty. I suppose it's not impossible a Stark became High Septon, but I feel like we would know about the Stark who abandoned the Old Gods.
  7. Seeing as how Jaime is the odds-on favorite to be the Valonqar (with Tyrion being the red herring), him also being the "younger and more beautiful" seems redundant. And since he fits the Valonqar much better, I'm still thinking the "younger and more beautiful" is someone else. Jaime being responsible for all Cersei's loss sounds like victim blaming to me. It is a good point that adult Cersei has always assumed the "younger and more beautiful" would be another queen but it doesn't have to be. But most importantly, don't bring the show in here. There's a whole other forum for that, though you didn't go too far I suppose.
  8. All the houses that became LP's after the conquest are pretty boring IMO, but this is mainly due to them just not having the time to have the history of the Starks or Lannisters. They weren't even particularly powerful before Aegon, they were just the first to turn. I think the Vances should've been raised, but I'm obviously biased. I think the same can be said for the Tyrells, I've never understood why the Hightowers weren't made LP even if the Tyrells got Highgarden. Baratheon is a slightly different story. I'm mainly talking about in the World book though. In ASoIaF, I don't think they're any more boring than anyone else. I agree that their words are super weak and their colors are pretty generic too, but as far as the characters go I think they're solid. If Hoster was well I think they would be much more interesting, especially if the Southron Ambitions theory is true and he was an architect of the Targ downfall.
  9. Maybe Euron already has it? He's already whipped out one shiny new toy he found in Valyria (supposedly), maybe hes biding his time whipping out his second. Other than that, the only real chance is if Dany's fleet goes super close to the Smoking Sea, and I don't see why they would. I do agree there's a solid chance of it popping up, I just don't know how. It could just be a story of foolish loss. I've always presumed it was a standard length sword, the picture in tWoIaF looked pretty standard.
  10. Union armies tore up rail lines everywhere they went the whole war, but Sherman's famous hardcore march to the sea only really affected Georgia, and even then it was mostly confined to a swath roughly 80 miles wide between Atlanta and Savannah. It's not like Sherman marched back and forth across the south burning everything. He totally wrecked Georgia, crippled the last bastions of southern industry and pioneered total war, but he didn't totally destroy the South. The eventual plan was to bring them back into the Union, not sow their fields with salt and make them unable to recover. And comparing it to Bangladesh is a bit much don't you think? Shit's sweltering hot but there was still plenty of money. But Civil War discussions aside, I think your plan to slowly murder every man, woman and child on the Iron Islands sounds much more in the wheelhouse of Stalin, Hitler or Andrew Jackson than Fightin' Wllie T. It's a pretty big leap to go from total war, economy ruining campaign to an extermination plan.
  11. Probably the most reasonable solution on here (besides my own, of course). Maybe the North deserves cut more than the Reach though. Especially if it was Ned, Tywin and Stannis who did the heavy lifting in quashing the rebellion.
  12. If you mean Shireen literally follows someone she thinks is Davos into a pyre, than no. But to trick her somehow I suppose so.
  13. I mean, I tend to stay away from total genocide, so I don't know about your "stick." Robert probably should have wiped out the Greyjoys, but slowly killing everyone on the islands doesn't seem like the call. W..what do you think Sherman did? The South still exists, I've been there. If it was up to me, I'd have sent the Ironborn out to map the known world in force. They definitely aren't who you want as the face of your kingdom to a new people, but if they had some respectable emissaries and maesters it could work out. And if the Iron Throne ever had a serious dispute with a Free City or something, I'd call them up as Privateers. Both of the options could help build unity, but are admittedly not a whole lot. Trying to create more marriages between the island and the mainland would always help shore up ties. It happens already, but not super often. A Blue fork canal would be interesting, but I don't know if they could pull it off. Could I suppose. But overall, the lack of depth in Ironborn culture makes it nearly impossible to totally integrate them. I've always thought it may partially be that they are, as they claim, a different people entirely from elsewhere.
  14. It's just one that comes to mind as its blasted in our faces in the books. I didn't say outrageous, just lop-sided. Gemma should have at least deserved a first-born.
  15. Victarion gains the distinction of best commander in Westeros probably, at least at sea. Robert would be enraged at the escalating defiance and death of his brother, go all-in on crushing the Greyjoy rebellion and extinguishes the Greyjoy line. Giving control to the Goodbrothers or Harlaws.