Aegonzo The Great

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  1. This is one of the enduring mysteries of the whole series: Why did the Others return? Why now? It could be the Wildlings did it while searching for something, ostensibly the Horn Of Joramun. But I think the question that needs to be answered first is: Where were the Others for the last 1000 years? Where did they go? Becauase it seems Ygritte is suggesting they were woken from graves or something like that. What, are they ice cicadas? They go hide under the frozen soil to re-awaken even 1000 years? That just doesn't seem right to me. I'm of the opinion that there was some sort of long-forgotten pact between the Others and Men, and somehow that pact got broken and now the Others are coming to get revenge/remind Men of the pact. What the pact was, or how it got broken, could have been something to do with the Wildlings. I actually think it might be something like this: All the Men that live north of the wall are "livestock" for the Others, since it seems like they can't sexually reproduce. So the Others come and take babies with the intent of converting them into more Others. The Wildlings are to provide these babies, with a certain quota each year from each tribe. Mance, being from south of the Wall, convinces the Wildlings that this was a barbaric, unfair practice, and they should just run away. In refusing to give more babies to the Others, the Wildlings broke the pact and now the Others are chasing them/coming for revenge on Man. But really, anyone else's guess is just as good as mine.
  2. The interesting thing about that is that I don't know if there's anything carved on the statues at all. I've just begun rewatching the series, and the thing I noticed is that the dead don't seem to be buried under the statues, rather there seems to be a large sarcophagus directly behind them. At least in Lyanna's case, there's definitely some large concrete box directly behind her statue. Now, here's an interesting idea: What if, in one of Bran's flashbacks, he finds out that Lyanna's tomb doesn't actually have her body? What if Ned secretly had her buried with Rhaegar's ashes (since he was supposedly cremated) but had the tomb built for such a time as when he could reveal that the Targaryens and Starks finally cemented the Pact of Ice and Fire that had been made centuries before by Cregan Stark during the Dance of Dragons? Obviously Ned couldn't reveal this now, because of Robert's hatred of the Targaryens. But what if there's something in the tomb that belongs to the Targaryens? Rhaegar's armor (which Jon will wear)? Dark Sister? (It would be interesting if Sansa finds it first and wields it against Jon.) Rhaegar's ashes themselves, along with Lyanna's bones? I do truly believe there is something very important in the crypts, probably at Lyanna's statue. It's been mentioned far too many times and too much effort was made to show it several times for D&D to not be building up to a kind of "Gotcha!" moment, a kind of "hidden in plain sight" thing. The crypts themselves must be important because they keep mentioning them/going in them. If they weren't important, D&D could have just not bothered including them in the story at all. I believe they have been shown at least once in every season of the show, and people always find ways to mention them. Even after the Battle Of The Bastards, Jon makes a point of saying "I'm going to bury him (Rickon) in the crypts next to father." This would be even more of a twist if it turns out that Rhaegar's ashes ARE in the tomb, meaning Jon IS buring Rickon next to "father", his own as well as RIckon's.
  3. These are all fair points. I will say this, LF definitely knows Lyanna and Rhaegar were consensual in their relations, he may even know they were married. You're probably right that he might not know about Jon's birth, or even that Lyanna was pregnant, since the whole point of the Tower of Joy was to give Lyanna a safe place to give birth as well as to keep prying eyes away. However, being that he does know about Lyanna and Rhaegar's mutual feelings, he may have pieced things together on his own. It remains to be seen. I do 100% agree that Howland Reed needs to show up. GRRM said he will appear in the books. They have introduced Jojen and Meera on the TV show, so it wouldn't be a stretch for their dad to pop up and say stuff. But of course, who's going to believe him? How can he prove it? Unless....He has Dawn, proving that he was at the Tower of Joy? I know in the books Ned returned it to Starfall, but in the TV show, we don't know that he did this. I dunno. Someone is going to confirm it, probably Bran, possibly Sam, LF might chime in with what he knows, and if Howland Reed shows up with Dawn, then it would seem like way too much of a coincidence. The final key might be something down in the crypts of Winterfell. For example, has anyone actually read what it says on Lyanna's tomb? What if it says something like "Here lies Lyanna Stark/Targaryen, wife of Prince Rhaegar Targaryen, mother of Aegon Targaryen (which is supposed to be Jon's real name)".... Or something? I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure it will be a confluence of events which confirm Jon's parentage.
  4. Yes, this is true. There are historical records of dragons, and there is physical evidence of their existence all around. With the Others, anything concerning them happened so long ago that for many people they are just a legend. There is no recent, accurate historical account of them, so they get lumped in with the "grumpkins and snarks" of the world, along with giants and Children Of The Forest. For lack of a better term, I think Southerners tend to be more logical and rigid in their religious beliefs and the existence of the supernatural, while Northerners tend to be more mystical and superstitious. Varys falls more into the Southern ideology. He is well aware of the existence of magic, but something like the Others is just a bridge too far for him. I think this is something that will come into play this season. Jon will meet Dany and tell her about what's going on north of the wall. Varys will advise her and say the Jon is only trying to distract her from her true goal, sending her on some wild goose chase north of the wall. Only Tyrion will speak up in favor of Jon and say something like "The boy is not mad. I know this boy, and I know his family. His sister was even my wife, for a brief, blissful time. The Starks are a hard family, and they come from the wild, untamed North, but they are not known for their madness. Which," he says, looking at Dany, "is more than can be said of your family." This will lead Dany to asking Jon to provide proof, then Jon will range North of the wall to capture a wight, and only then will everyone, including Varys, believe what he is telling them.
  5. What happened in the funeral pyre was a kind of blood magic. "Only a life can pay for a death", yada yada yada. GRRM has gone on the record saying what happened was not indicative of Dany's normal abilities, but rather was the unique confluence of several factors. That said, the show seems to think Dany is basically impervious to fire. We see her getting into hot water like it ain't no thang, she picked up the dragon eggs after they had been on hot coals and was just like "Eh, a little warm, I guess?" and in this past season there was the incident where she burned all the Khals but she herself was ok. Again, that could have been some more blood magic at work, but I think the show gives her more special abilities than the books.
  6. This could be interesting. As much as people would like to see it, I hope they don't do a Robert's Rebellion prequel, since it would reveal a lot of the mysteries at the start of GoT. Think about the Star Wars prequels.... Sometimes it's better to just not know. Also not sure how I feel about a sequel. If the ending is bittersweet with a lot of Westeros destroyed and a lot of characters dead, I'm not sure how interesting it'd be to watch a show about rebuilding the world. Seems like it'd be kind of boring. So, Dunk & Egg it is! Or, if they want to be really ambitious, show us the Long Night. I think that'd be pretty cool, depending on how much we find out was actually true about the Long Night over these last 2 seasons.
  7. The whole "LF knows" thing comes from the facial expressions he makes while visiting Lyanna's tomb with Sansa. Sansa says something about Rhaegar kidnapping and raping Lyanna, and if you watch LF, he kind of grimaces, and the next time he looks at Sansa, he has a kind of "Yeah.... You got it all wrong." kind of look on his face. He knows. And if he dies this season, I think there's a good chance he will tell Sansa before he dies, possibly to plead for his life. Sansa already knows sexual relations happened between the two, so it's not a stretch to think a baby would come out of it. If LF can prove it was consensual, or that they were married, and then tell her that Jon is not Ned's bastard, it might have huge implications for whatever game Sansa is playing in the North.
  8. I see what you did there.
  9. Yes, this. I think they may just stare at each other and communicate telepathically. But they have to explain why the Others want to attack, and more importantly, why NOW. It's probably the greatest mystery of the whole series, and if they end the show without addressing it, it will be a massive letdown.
  10. If Pirates Of The Carribean is to be believed, they sink and walk on the ocean floor. Makes sense. They don't breathe, so there's no air to make them float, and most of them aren't fat, so even less floating. However, even if they can do that, you have to hope they don't get caught in a riptide underwater. It'd be a pretty hilarious way for the invasion of Westeros to end with all the zombies getting suddenly swept out to sea. I can imagine the Night King standing on the shore watching, and talking in his language "Go! Go, my minions! Bring death, destruction, and despair to the Lands South of the Wall! For now the Longest Night has come, for now is our hour, for now... (riptide comes and sweeps his whole army out to sea) Well.......shit. Back to the drawing board, fellas."
  11. I'm fairly certain we'll find the source of Littlefinger's financial wizardry. In fact, I think it's a crucial plot point as it may reveal what exactly his goals are and how deeply he has woven his web. We still don't really know what it is Littlefinger wants, but you have to assume one as scheming as him does have an endgoal in sight that only he himself knows of. My guess is Littlefinger has bled the Lannisters dry, and possibly used their wealth as leverage to get more money out of the Iron Bank. But anything is on the table, really. Does he have ties to some Iron Islanders and asks them to fund him and in exchange he will work to grant independence to the Iron Islands? Does he have some connections to some raiding sell sword parties in Essos? At this point, the best we can say is "Who friggin' knows."
  12. I know this topic has been discussed on here quite a bit, but I recently have begun watching the entire series over again from the beginning. In the third episode, there is a scene where Robert and Barristan are discussing their first kills. Robert calls Jaime in and asks him what the Mad King said when Jaime stabbed him in the back. Jaime responds by saying "He said the same thing he'd been saying for hours: 'Burn them all.'" The camera then cuts to Robert, who just stares at Jaime with something that was approaching fear. The reason I mention this is because this phrase pops up several other times over the course of the series, and I was wondering if people think there's more to it. You could say the whol purpose of continuing to mention this was to keep reminding us that there is a stash of wild fire under King's Landing. Now that Cersei has set off a decent portion of it, it would seem that Chekhov's Gun has been fired (har!). But could there be even more to this? I've heard theories about Bran meddling in the past and causing the Aerys to go mad, much like what he did with Hodor. But of course, this probably can't work because Bran has no means to warg into Aerys. But there are reports that Aerys would talk to people who weren't there... Could he somehow be talking to Bran? What I'm getting at, what if the Others make it to Winterfell where Bran is, and they attack while Bran is looking into the past where Aerys is, and someone is shouting out to Dany to use her dragons to "Burn them all." Bran somehow hears/transmits this to Aerys, who keeps repeating this phrase since he got it from his trusted "ghost" hand of the king. Or something. I don't know, this theory is a little half-baked, but I'm curious to hear what others think. Was "Burn them all" just there to remind us about the wildfire, or is there more to it? (As an aside, I think "Burn Them All" would be great House words for House Targaryen. It evokes that kind of uneasiness when you hear it, almost like a veiled threat, much the same as "Winter Is Coming" for the Starks.)
  13. They are most likely real. You've never heard anyone scoff and dismiss them the way they have the Others, giants, dragons, etc. They just seem to take in stride "Oh, yeah, krakens. Bad news, that lot. Anyway, what's for lunch?"
  14. I'm actually really hyped to see them interact. They seemed to have mutual respect for each other. Can only imagine how it will be now when one is the Queen's Hand and the other is the King In the North. I can imagine Tyrion's quip, something about "Well, for a bastard and dwarf, I'd say we've done fairly well for ourselves. Of course, the whole getting killed and hideously scarred thing are a bit of an inconvenience, but all in all, not a bad result."
  15. Yeah, nothing says "winter" like lush green hills.