DragonBlood

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  1. First off, I haven't watched the TV series since Season 4, so please, no spoilers from the series. So, I just finished reading the history of the Targaryens and noticed that: 1. Aerys II lusted forJoanna Lannister. 2. He took some liberties during Tywin's bedding. 3. Months later, Joanna gives birth to twins. 4. Years later, Aerys II goes to Casterly Rock where Tywin holds a celebration for the birth of Viserys. 5. Later, Joanna gets pregnant again, and gives birth to a deformed dwarf, rumoured to have a tail that was later cut off. What if Aeryes took a lot of liberty with Joanna? Tywin would obviously have known of this, but kept silent for many reasons, some being: 1. Tywin was the Hand of the King and his close friend (for a time, before he got mad). This gave him the power to rule, which he would lose if he called on Aerys' crimes. There is no guarantee that Rhaegar would let him rule as he did. 2. Tywin might never have known for sure whether Jaime and Cersei were his own or Aerys', and would never have wanted to. For many years after, he did not have a child, so it would mean he is left heirless. 3. Tywin did not want dishonor to taint House Lannister or his wife, whom he loved. Presumably, she was forced into it, or at least he was convinced she was. All this would make him more and more frustrated and angry at the king. When he comes with his wife to King's Landing and Aerys publicly comments about Joanna's "teats", that would have been the last straw, setting into motion his plan to eventually betray the king. (I'm guessing he even had a role to play in the abduction of Lyanna Stark, which would cause the Starks, Baratheons, Tyrells and almost all the realm to rebel). This falls in place with his general character; his blood isn't hot, and his vengeance always comes with a slow, hard patience. This explains: 1. Why Jaime and Cersei have incestuous feelings for each other; they have Targaryen blood in them. There is evidence that this characteristic is part of their genes; when Aegon V the Unlikely wanted no more incest in the Targaryen dynasty, he still couldn't stop his son falling in love with his own sister, since they were children. 2. Why Tyrion was born a dwarf, "deformed", with a tail; this has long been a feature in the Targaryen inheritance. Rhaenyra Targaryen was confirmed to have a deformed child, as did many other ancestors of Aerys II. Aerys himself had had many, many deformed and stillborn children with Rhaella. It might be that the typical Lannister features of golden hair and green eyes might have trumped the Targaryen genetics of violet eyes and silver-golden hair. Thoughts?
  2. A word about dragon blood, and how "Targaryen" blood isn't enough to tame a dragon. I think it's pretty clear that having Targaryen blood and being a "blood of the dragon" are different things. This is evident in how the dragons treat Quentyn and Brown Ben Plumm. Both of them have a little blood of the dragonlords of Old Valyria. Both of them had a distant enough Targaryen ancestor. But the dragons instantly seemed to like Plumm, and only burned Quentyn. The way I see this is that there is a part of Targaryen blood (a DragonBlood gene, maybe) that gives all the magical Targaryen properties: fire and heat do not burn them as much as they should, they are not afflicted with diseases, and dragons have a natural tendency to like them. Quentyn clearly had none of these properties. Nor did Viserys (he was killed with molten gold, which would never have killed Daenerys). So it seems clear that being of Targaryen descent doesn't have to imply having dragon blood; it is only in some people that the gene is not recessed. Of course, the factor of how distant a Targaryen ancestor you have directly affects this property, but it doesn't necessitate it. The more distant the ancestor in terms of blood, the more "diluted" the the blood gets, which means there is a higher probability of the gene being recessed. Which is why the dragonlords married their own blood. Maybe Plumm is of dragon blood, but he is just too cautious a man to act on it.
  3. I just noticed. One more thing to add to why Tyrion is of Aerys' blood is that
  4. Good catch with the dates. This definitely seems to rule out the twins being children of Aerys. I somehow thought the tourney was held for Viserys' birth. Weird.
  5. Good point about Oberyn. It's still possible that he somehow missed it, though, but it's unlikely. However, I strongly feel that incest is still a genetic trait of Valyrian birth. Craster took his children for wives, but not his own sister. They're both equally incestuous, sure, but biologically speaking, a brother and sister growing in the same house and having sexual feelings for each other is extremely rare. There is something called the Westermarck Effect, which makes siblings repelled by each other's sexuality. I still think it's possible, though unlikely.. Let's wait and see.
  6. Jaqen tells her, clearly, that she may name anyone, even Joffrey, but he shall take his time to bring forth the death. A week, a month, or a year even. Killing Gregor before he left to Riverrun would have been hard, but not impossible. But Tywin would be another matter. Jaqen would have probably marched with him to war and killed him at an opportune moment. Or maybe in the battle of the Blackwater, or maybe in King's Landing, where he would be less expectant of an assassination. It would have taken time, is my guess.
  7. I am in the middle of ACOK, and I think the answer is really simple. When Catelyn kidnapped Tyrion, the Lannisters started marching North. That's the reason Robb moves south calling the Stark banners. Ned wasn't dead by then; Jaime kills his guard. Nor did Ned know of Joffrey's inheritance. However, the war certainly got worse with Ned's death. If I'm not wrong, this is the sequence of cause-effect events: 1. Catelyn gets a letter from Lysa, accusing the Lannisters of murdering Jon Arryn 2. Someone attempts to murder Bran, fails and leaves behind a dagger of Valyrian steel. 3. Catelyn, suspecting the Lannisters because of Lysa's letter, goes to King's Landing to know the truth of it 4. Littlefinger tells her that the dagger belonged to Tyrion Lannister 5. Catelyn travels back to Winterfell, and by happenstance, comes across Tyrion in the inn at the crossroads 6. She kidnaps him and goes to the Vale 7. The Lannisters call their banners and march from Casterly Rock to the riverlands 8. Robb marches south to defend, starting a full-fledged war All other events happen only after this sequence. Please correct me if I'm wrong?