One-eyed Misbehavin

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  1. Jon will not take Bran or Rickon’s birthright even if Robb named him in his will (he did) Bran can’t reproduce and probably would consider the Lord’s high seat irrelevant in comparison to what he will and has learned. Rickon will be Heir to WF but will very likely hand it over to Lady Sansa the great imho (who may or may not acknowledge Robb’s will after all this lol) This is simply guesses based off character’s individual motives/story
  2. Just my opinion but I think Meera and Jojen absolutely all but confirm that it was Lyanna. "There was one knight," said Meera, "in the year of the false spring. The Knight of the Laughing Tree, they called him. He might have been a crannogman, that one." "Or not." Jojen's face was dappled with green shadows. "Prince Bran has heard that tale a hundred times, I'm sure." skip..... When his fallen foes sought to ransom horse and armor, the Knight of the Laughing Tree spoke in a booming voice through his helm, saying, 'Teach your squires honor, that shall be ransom enough.' Once the defeated knights chastised their squires sharply, their horses and armor were returned. And so the little crannogman's prayer was answered . . . by the green men, or the old gods, or the children of the forest, who can say?" skip... "Oh." Bran thought about the tale awhile. "That was a good story. But it should have been the three bad knights who hurt him, not their squires. Then the little crannogman could have killed them all. The part about the ransoms was stupid. And the mystery knight should win the tourney, defeating every challenger, and name the wolf maid the queen of love and beauty." I think this is GRRM giving several clues that Bran’s conclusion (the little crannogman which he mentions at least 3 times as the KOLT) is actually not the case and I believe with Jojen questioning Bran’s very limited knowledge of the “greatest tourney of them all” (and overall gag joke of Bran and his immediate family history) leads credence to Lyanna being the mystery knight. But the most telling quote is by Meera.. "Then, as now," she agreed. "The wolf maid saw them too, and pointed them out to her brothers. 'I could find you a horse, and some armor that might fit,' the pup offered. The little crannogman thanked him, but gave no answer. His heart was torn. Crannogmen are smaller than most, but just as proud. The lad was no knight, no more than any of hispeople. We sit a boat more often than a horse, and our hands are made for oars, not lances. Much as he wished to have his vengeance, he feared he would only make a fool of himself and shame his people. The quiet wolf had offered the little crannogman a place in his tent that night, but before he slept he knelt on the lakeshore, looking across the water to where the Isle of Faces would be, and said a prayer to the old gods of north and Neck . . ." This also makes Howland’s prayer answered in full circle as Meera’s quote about the little crannogmen’s prayer being answered by the old gods, cotf, green men, who can say? I can say I’ve never considered anyone other than Lyanna. Old god connection check, skills needed to win check, mis-matching armor + a horse her own brother said he could acquire check, reason to hide identity check. Otherwise all her horseback skills that are brought up so much makes no sense really. I really wouldn’t overthink this one.
  3. It’s also worth mentioning it’s possible Euron is exaggerating his accomplishments/deeds (Rodrik certainly questions the authenticity of his trip to valyria claim) I personally have no reason to doubt euron but it would be more than enough motive to SILENCE everyone.... (also the name of his ship is silence so it adds to his mystique/fear)
  4. When I caught on to the massive symbolism in AGOT and for sake..... reread things like locations, mysterious prophecy, and introductions to new characters and locations. I consider myself an above-average reader but the sheer volume of information can be overwhelming so for me I reread many pages/chapters during every reread of the 5 books As for my 1st reread of the series it wasn’t long after I finished certainly. Not long at all
  5. I agree and while we don’t know the totality of little Arryn’s addiction it is quite clear he is borderline (if not already)reliant now So my fan-fic scenario.... when a tore up Robert Arryn wants his best bud/surrogate mom around, is it possible he tells his brand new shiny sworn gaurdsmen to bring her to him or something like that? This could be his 1st official order by the way
  6. Lol you’re good. I’m usually not so slow.
  7. Yes I’m with you now. You simply used a quote from me. Again my apologies for the confusion.
  8. @The Weirwoods Eyes I apologize I misread your post. My bad I agree with your take on Ned’s thought process here for sure
  9. I think you misinterpreted. I firmly believe in R+L=J this quote by @Ilyana is how I feel as well and I’ll add I think Ned named Wylla (when he had to) simply bc Ashara was a probable youchy subject with Ned and he didn’t want her name associated with his after all the grief/circumstances
  10. It’s the believable cover-story that happens to have a cover-story of it’s own wylla the wet nurse of starfall. "I shall wear that as a badge of honor," Ned said dryly. "Honor," she spat. "How dare you play the noble lord with me! What do you take me for? You've a bastard of your own, I've seen him. Who was the mother, I wonder? Some Dornish peasant you raped while her holdfast burned? A whore? Or was it the grieving sister, the Lady Ashara? She threw herself into the sea, I'm told. Why was that? For the brother you slew, or the child you stole? Tell me, my honorable Lord Eddard, how are you any different from Robert, or me, or Jaime?" My take is that no one can ever question (as in doesn’t have the balls) to mention Ashara to the Warden of the North Eddard Stark bc she is known to have committed suicide and it’s kind of an awkward subject. Then Ned goes all in and drops the bomb that his bastard was with a wet nurse named wylla when pressed by Robert and apparently it made it all through the family at Starfall also He looked at her uncomfortably. "My aunt Allyria says Lady Ashara and your father fell in love at Harrenhal—" And then Harwin "That boy Ned said . . ." "Aye, he told me. Lady Ashara Dayne. It's an old tale, that one. I heard it once at Winterfell, when I was no older than you are now." He took hold of her bridle firmly and turned her horse around. "I doubt there's any truth to it. But if there is, what of it? When Ned met this Dornish lady, his brother Brandon was still alive, and it was him betrothed to Lady Catelyn, so there's no stain on your father's honor. There's nought like a tourney to make the blood run hot, so maybe some words were whispered in a tent of a night, who can say? Words or kisses, maybe more, but where's the harm in that? Spring had come, or so they thought, and neither one of them was pledged." It was a read between the lines if you can get that far kinda deal (I actually find cercei deducing this herself is very much in character) But Rhaegar and Arthur Dayne’s friendship has a big effect on all of this. Ned had to base his lie around that to begin with. I don’t think it’s a far stretch to say this was to protect Jon from Robert but either way, the Ned (in my humble opinion) pulled off the most rock solid double-alibi for his sister’s child given the hand he was dealt.
  11. @Lord Varys yes that’s correct auto-correct got me on the 1st quote. For the 2nd none of that was serious as we don’t have the info required. I just found it funny you brought up bennis is all.
  12. Very interesting parallels with Dunk’s trial by 7. Of course the “no true knights” reteric directed at a group was in both instances but a bit inverse, in that dunk was battling against a Targ while Maegor was the one in need in his fight. A bracken fought against a targ in both instances House Lothston seems to be extremely loyal to the targs for their entirety even after The unworthy as we know Danelle at least sent Aid to Bloodraven at whitewalls (and were eventually awarded the curse of harenhall and a hand of the king gig for that apparent lotalty) so it makes sense their ancestor stood in Ill throw out that House Beesbury seems all over the place in their beliefs of the royal inheritance. The Rosby guy is makes sense in that they surrendered peacefully to the targs choosing them over House Hoare probably and apparently once again Speaking of Hoares the man who killed Harren the red Bernarr Brune was also the guy who rallied the troops. Dick bean stood while Brune shamed them. Only thing odd with that is he was knighted by Aenys himself and you’d think he wouldn’t be so fond of Maegor especially at the usurping coronation. Does all of this sound/work ok? Most are obviously pure speculation obviously but I think the names across history that long is somewhat important.
  13. But we do know that Aerion Brightflame came back from exile during the third blackfyre rebellion. And his later actions were “well known” I believe is the quote..... sounds possible. But it just as likely could’ve been a fossaway... or dare I say a Hightower (bc like you’ve said multiple times we DON’T KNOW) By the way if somehow Bennis of the brown shit head shield was able to actually get away with that as well.... I thoroughly believe dunk would hunt him down. (I understand you were simply putting forth characters which have already been introduced to us and not being serious in any manner) simply saying bennis would be an enormous shit stain in history if it were somehow true. If I live in that society as a targ (or had sworn them fealty). I think every person who would support Daemon Blackfyre 1 ( without a type of will from the Unworthy saying “I want Daemon as king not Daeron” it’s obviously treason to consider anyone except Daeron) is a traitor who just wanted a good looking god-like king or to move their position higher. I’m obviously simply using your quotes to set up my main point and I apologize for that. The blackfyres weren’t just Family who wanted to take over the other branch as a bloodline monoarchy. They were absolutely stubborn as a mule and unwaveringly persistent and had an unrelenting need to win as well. The most persistent and stubborn happened to be the Great bastard with the most grudge against the iron throne and those around it was Aegor Bittersteel. Basically everyone of these blackfyre guys had to be stopped. Any form of government cannot allow treason after treason after treason, but I understand that comes down to each separate individual. I’m sure some would much rather serve The iron throne (whether it be cleaning a privy or becoming a Squire to a famous knight) or take the black rather than be killed for their cause.) But when you get to Maelys as your new king to save you from the oppressive 7 kingdoms (7 kingdoms thanks to Daeron) it really shows what cockroaches were involved in all of this. (And I understand Maelys wasn’t exactly voted in by any means) but like the other pretenders STILL SUPPORTED. It’s why I honestly couldn’t care less about the way BloodRaven handled his blackfyre business considering he gave Lords Peak and Butterwell multiple chances (Lord Frey as well likely) and the fact he personally conducted the interrogations gave me the impression he certainly kept up with each person‘s role in the treasons against the IT. So long as the deaths were clean and quick, that’s about as good as a traitor can hope for.
  14. I believe all of this should be spoiler tagged right? Or in The winds of winter sub forum
  15. Actually she momentarily humanizes with her about the bedding and if she does kill a baby that is her niece/nephew BWB might look for a more Alice leader. Roslin had no choice either way, she would likely be given away to highest bidder or made to suffer for her slight against house Frey. Its a great question actually. But like robb’s Squires maybe not all Frey’s are homicidal maniacs. But I’d be a little refreshed if some more Frey’s dropped so maybe I’m the madman