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  1. At first I was going to say Euron would probably be the least unpleasant and dangerous option, then I remembered what he did to Aeron when the latter was a child... so yeah unpleasant doesn't even start to describe it. Still gonna say that Euron would be the least dangerous option; if he's having you on his ship eating his foods rather than with the woman he raped to sire you, it means he wants you there (even if the reason for that might be very, very, very awful) maybe even because he has some role for you in his plans, which would ensure your survival until you have fulfilled that role. And there is the option to try and run for the hills next time the Silence is ashore. Even if it is a slim chance, it's there and you could try to reach Braavos, which, while pretty cold and damp, is probably the safest place from Euron. Or maybe one of the innland cities (gotta stay away from the sea) Any child of Gregor living in his household has no chance at all of surviving past infancy. The first time you cry, Gregor's gonna get annoyed at the loud noise and smash you against the next best wall until you have stopped crying (i.e. are dead) The Bolton option would probably be the least unpleasant one. Chances are Roose would leave you alone most of the time and not really care about your existence. You're probably just at his keep because Domeric wanted both his brothers around. Now that you know what Ramsay's like and how slim your chances for survival are with him around you have a few options: 1)High risk, high reward: get Roose to tolerate you and conspire with him to get rid of Ramsay, pointing out that your older brother is much more a danger to the continued existence of the house than he is of potential use. Roose is clearly not fond of Ramsay and I have the impression he kept him around just to have an heir. So there might be hope here. Of course there might be not or Ramsay might get hold of you before you can execute any plans to get rid of him. 2)Asking your father to allow you to become a Maester or Septon 3) Running away and becoming a sellsword somewhere beyond Ramsay's reach. 4)Theoretically you can also join the Night's Watch, but really getting flayed by Ramsay is more fun than spending the rest of your life at the worst place in Westeros... So yeah, can't really decide between Euron's or Bolton's
  2. Still stark kids living on as Wolves and frolicking through the forest is nothing short of ridiculous. So the Iron Thorne being shattered isn't about "Gritty and Realistic" it's about YOUR wishfullfilment. Okay then. The Iron Throne united 8 warring nations and keeps the Iron Born under the heel they need to keep them from raping and enslaving everybody else. Henry Tudor, the Glorious Revolution, Napoleon, the Bourbon Restoration, the various times the an Egyptian dynasty DID restore the Two Kingdoms, the reunification of China after the warring states period the Meji Restoration... the Beginning of the Romanov Dynasty. I never said it always happens, only that it has frequently happened in history. Now list the occurrences where people ended up being trapped inside animals. .
  3. Yes and having Jon and Arya jump around as magical wolves, running free as the wind blows, frolicking in flower meadows and having a litter of cubs, is "gritty and realistic" That's fanfic territory right there. Do they name their cubs Eddard, Catelyn, Brand, Rickon, Robb and Sansa, as well? And, just saying in the real world people ending up on a throne of a country that previously had fallen to civil war has happened considerably more often than people having their minds transplanted into animals.
  4. Because they are pretty much just random listings of food.
  5. Interesting! Did not know that!
  6. Edward VII actually, forgot to type a "I" :-P Edward VIII was the guy who abdicated the throne to marry Wallis Simpson.
  7. Throne Names, names a ruler chooses to reign under, aren't that unusual. Look at Edward VII who was really Albert/Bertie to his family. Victoria was, technically Alexandrina Victoria as well, but was called Victoria in private as well after her coronation, because she disliked anything that had to do with her horrible childhood. Both these monarchs chose throne names because their actual names (Alexandrina and Albert) were too foreign and atypical for their realm. So if Jon chooses to reign as a Targaryen he might as well call himself Aegon VI in order to give himself more legitimacy. I don't really see the issue with him keeping Jon as a name among friends and family. It's not like people address their relatives or friends by private pet names at official ceremonies.
  8. I think super villain often gets used to describe those characters who are larger than life in their evil deeds, brutality and sadism to a point where yes, they are rather flat and pure black in their morals and not very complex characters, but they are so entertaining and lavish in their own evil so much that they wind up beloved characters. The types of character where you read a chapter and have to stop because you are actually close to laughing at how surreal their actions are. I know I actually went into a laughing fit when GRRM described how the Unsullied are made, because it's so ridiculous. Same with Ramsay and Euron, those two guys pretty much jump around with slasher smiles 24/7 holding up giant "I am a bad guy" signs while wearing full black outfits and cackling to themselves. If Westeros had railways Ramsay would already have tied some peasant girls to their tracks. If they had mustaches they would have by now fallen off because of the constant twirling. Those two are flat, unrepentant villains, but they are saved by being so entertaining and by being also very charismatic. It's like Maleficent (proper Maleficent not the Lifetime movie cliche/victim the Angelina Jolie movie turned her into. Proper Malificent would sneer at her Lifeaction counterpart and then have her "done away with") she is irredeemably evil, doesn't comprehend good or selflessness and is so stereo typically villainous and petty that she personally sends winter frosts just to ruin pretty flowers. But she is so grandiose and charismatic, in her own way, jovial and happy, that you cannot help but be entertained by her. The Joker is another example. And all of them also have the power and the ruthlessness to back up their "Look at me, I'm the bad guy/girl" personas. They can all kill/torture you in ways you don't want to imagine and might do so simply because they are bored, or because they cannot think of a reason not to do so. I think the reason why they are so entertaining is because they break our natural sensibilities about how people behave towards others so completely, and things that are unusual or break against norms are often popular. This particular kind of villain wouldn't even work in human society (not on a permanent basis, anyway) because there'd simply be no society if people acted that way, which makes it interesting all by itself. It also goes against most people's natural desires as social animals; to receive affection and acceptance from others and show them to others. We want to understand how those completely alien creatures work and the more we see the more we just realize how bizarre and alien they are and it ends up fascinating. Super Villains like that are awesome and I'm glad we have them in ASOIAF. People like Gregor and Littlefinger don't quite fit the bill of Super Villain because, Gregor is a flat and boring villain, he's just "warrgh kill!" basically a stereotypical Orc, while Littlefinger is a sociopath, but capable of functioning in society. Very few people know how ruthless and calculating he is. Cersei meanwhile tries and fails at being a Super Villain due to how stupid and ineffective she is.
  9. That was just for dramatic effect, the scene wouldn't have worked the same way if Drogo had taken the time to properly melt down gold in a realistic manner before pouring it on Viserys.
  10. I'm more curious as to whether their kid will have the Valyrian silver hair.. My ex and I used to have a joke back in the early seasons when Emilia Clarke's acting wasn't very good and Kit Harrington constantly had his mouth hanging open. We'd say that they should reflect those two qualities in their (inevitable) offspring and have their daughter be played by Kirsten Stewart. It would be glorious. Difficult to say what they';; gonna name their child Lyanna is a possibility. Aunt and nephew is not incest by medieval standards. Neither is cousin-cousin.
  11. Though kinda makes you wonder how practical a throne that places the king that high up would really be... Wouldn't everybody who sits it have to shout constantly so that anybody in court, at all, can even understand them (and vice versa)? I mean those illustrations look quite a bit higher than any real life throne arrangement I have seen in paintings/read about/was able to find via google.
  12. Jokes are supposed to be funny Mimic and tone of speech do not translate into text and with people these days you can never be sure what laughable opinion is a joke or genuine. Also, if you do not want people to respond to things you write, you should not put them on a public discussion forum. And I'm not snarling, what gave you that idea?
  13. Who says that a "smallest government possible" is any sort of "ideal" state? That's what dictatorships are... Cersei is an atrocious "queen" who doesn't give a damn about her own subjects or about really anything aside from herself .The only reason that she hasn't got a Small Council is because she is too paranoid and too greedy for power to trust anybody. King Robert meanwhile, for all his faults, brought the Realm 15 years of peace and prosperity. At least he, unlike Queen Romulan (the ugliest of Dress) realized he was too stupid and lazy to govern that giant place. Which, in turn, makes him actually smarter.
  14. So are you suggesting the show should have spent 3-4 seasons on Tyrion being a drunken mess on the Shy Maid and Daenerys having audiences in Meereen? Riveting! I agree they should have kept Arianne and Faegon, and shouldn't have merged Sansa's and Jeyne's story lines, but you can't make three seasons out of just that. There was not enough material. Not defending the specific choices the show did, but some of the train wreck AFFCDWD needed to be cut/streamlined. Yeah no. 1) Jon, in the book, is either not dead, or will also be resurrected in some way, not matter how much you dislike him. 2) If anything Faegon was cut in order not to steal Daenerys' thunder (what with him actually invading and doing stuff off screen, while Daenerys still sits in Meereen complaining that the people there won't accept her reforms and all)
  15. Why do you insist on turning Sansa into a complete moron? It's the War of the Dawn, the Westerosi Zombie Apocalypse. They have more important stuff to worry about than who their King/Queen might be if and when they survive the whole invasion. Also, really, splitting up the Kingdoms and/or and independent North never were a particularly good idea. And for Sansa staying connected to the South means that importing lemons for lemon cakes is easier and cheaper.