Orphalesion

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  1. Nobody cares about that. As far as the people of Westeros are concerned Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcela are Robert's legitimate children. Westeros is a primitive society that completely lacks any paternity tests. So unless you get Cersei and/or Jaime to confess publicly that they created incest bastards (which they would never do since it'd mean dire consequences for the lot of them) there is no way to proof that those three aren't legitimate. So the only chance Stannis has is convincing the other Great Houses to choose him over Robert's children, which will never happen because nobody likes him. Even Myrcella would probably have an easier time getting backers than him. And all of that will be irrelevant once the girl with the dragons shows up.
  2. I'm not commenting on whether Qyburn is a "genius" or not, only that creating zombies is neither a skill you want someone to have nor a skill that can benefit anybody but the most ruthless of people (like CerseI). So it's nothing admirable nor should it factor into a hypothetical scenario where Qyburn is pardoned. On contrary, it should condemn him more.
  3. Black Walder, as awful as the Red Wedding was it was 1) Ordered by the legal government 2)against unlawful rebels 3)a quick way to end a bloody, costly and unlawful civil war 4)Mostly against military target. So is he really a criminal? He did participate in a violation of the guest right, and that's a serious offense, but despite what the Westerosi nobility think of themselves I'd wager it wasn't the first time a sacred right like that was broken during wartime. Also while he appears to have a fowl temper and be lustful (and incestuous), I don't remember him committing monstrosities and displaying maliciousness/sadism on par with those other people you listed. So he's the least awful of the bunch to keep around. So? Cutting living people apart and creating undead, mostly mindless, shambling zombies isn't exactly a field that's very desirable or useful. It's like saying praising somebody's skill in devising and admonishing novel torture techniques.
  4. From what I can gather a portion of the people who insist on Rhaegar being a jerk with no possible alternative even remotely acceptable, are rabid Robert Baratheon fanboys, who just vilify Rhaegar and/or Lyanna to excuse his character flaws. You know the people who claim Robert and Lyanna would have been happy with one another and who think Robert wouldn't be a self-pitying, drunken, whoring mess if he got to marry his "one tru wuv". I am not sure what happened and I don't want to completely commit to any one interpretation until we get unbiased textual evidence on what happened. My current theory is: Rhaegar was attracted to Lyanna, but was mostly interested in fulfilling the prophecy. He neither wanted to hurt Elia nor Lyanna, but thought a child with Lyanna was necessary for the survival of the Seven Kingdoms. There might even have been an arrangement with Elia. Lyanna was attracted to Rhaegar in a "my first crush" kind of way (I think Lyanna united many of the strengths, but also weaknesses of both her nieces)and wanted to find a way out of the Baratheon engagement (and maybe rebel against daddy and her brothers) and might not have quite understood what she got herself into. Robert Baratheon would have been a self-involved, drunken, whoring mess no matter who is wife was and a Robert/Lyanna pairing would have been even less harmonious than Robert/Cersei and would have caused severe friction between Baratheon and Stark.
  5. Most characters are so different in the show and book, both in appearance and character that it's easy to keep them apart, imho, especially since GRRM is very descriptive when it comes to people when compared to, for example, Tolkien (where we usually just get a hair/eye colour and maybe the colour of the garments and hair length a character has when we meet them) I definitely agree that I imagined Cersei more along the lines of a young Michelle Pfreiffer than Queen Cornerface from the show, Margaery is obviously younger and more...flower/blossom like...a pretty young girl rather than a beautiful young woman. Robb is completely different, Tyrion, pretty much everyone except Jon, Arya and Jorah. That's less a compliment to the casting agency and more a result of me not caring enough about those characters to develop a distinct mental image for them. I've also been guilty of ignoring both show and book descriptions and picture some of the men as more attractive than GRRM probably intended them to be. Don't judge me... I do tend to imagine some of the child/teenager characters a little bit older though, like on the show, particularly Daenerys (most likely to avoid the squick) I've never been able to picture her as a 13 year old, rather she's 15/16 in my head.
  6. Name one thing that would make the North worth any effort spent re-conquering it, one single thing that anybody would want.
  7. 1) Remember the "untapped Northern reserves" that supposedly are hiding out around that frozen wasteland. 2) What does the absence any example of the Northern Kingdom invading the south have to do with anything? 3)The North is not Dorne. In the North all you really have to do is ship some soldiers north of the neck and let them live off the settlements and the land there. 4) In the end it doesn't matter whether a invasion from the south would be successful. In fact, no invasion is even necessary. The fact stands that being independent won't save the Northerners from being impacted and involved with whatever happens a few miles south of them, which was the original point I contested. Whatever happens to the rest of Westeros, will still impact the North, since the neck is not a magical barrier that holds all the "nasty ebil" southern influence at bay.The North isn't Gondolin or Lothlorien. It's not even Braavos. The North is an ordinary country that is simply not capable to completely cut itself off from the rest of the world. The very next generation of Northern Kings might already involve themselves into Southern politics on their own accords. In fact the only reason they have their current problems is because that boy lord of theirs chose to involve himself into events that were going on outside of his domain. Nobody forced his hand in going south of the neck - nobody except his boisterous, war-hungry bannermen. 5)The point also stands that the North's biggest defense is that it has nothing at all to offer to the southern kingdoms. It's Siberia without the natural resources. All the Seven Kingdoms would lose is that glorified border patrol/penal colony at the wall, and chances are the North, unable to man that ridiculous structure themselves, would still accept the Seven Kingdoms sending men there. The North is Westeros oversized appendix. Kinda okay to have it, the process of losing it would pose some risks, but once it's gone nobody would even notice the difference.
  8. When Elizabeth I signed the death warrant for Mary Stuart we know that she felt that it was an unforgivable sin and crime to do so, since Mary was both her relative/kin and a sovereign put into that position by God's divine plan. So she'd both kill a relative and act against God's divine plan. It's written that she tried to very clumsily lie to herself about it by pretending she had not known that the very document she had just signed was Mary's death sentence and put the blame on her ministers for not telling her that this specific document among the many she signed that day was Mary's death warrant. People in the real world who have lived in very religious times have always found a way to absolve themselves of their sins. European kings murdered their relatives left and right and openly had courtesans (and bought absolution from the Pope fro such actions) Randyll could have had a servant or retainer "accidently" shoot Sam or trip his horse and then put the blame on said servant/retainer. "It weren't my hands who took Sam's life! He was murdered by this guy over there!"
  9. Last time I checked the king sat on a really tacky chair in King's Landing.
  10. What? Aside from "Great Northern Master Race" and Stark fanboys/girls who has "accepted" that ridiculous statement?
  11. The "king" also never was a king. He was a rebel who unlawfully rose up against his rightful liege. and since said rebellion failed and he never got to consolidate his claimed title, he was never king. So really,if the will is found all we'd have would be the will of a man who was declared traitor and who's house was stripped of power.
  12. Are you aware of the time when the Iron Born conquered a junk of the North, including taking Moat Cailin, right? Now imagine what a fleet drawn from the strength of the Seven Kingdoms could do, particularly at the onset of spring. The only advantages the North has 1)Winter, which leaves them vulnerable for years on end whenever summer comes, at best an independent Northern ruler might be a "Winter King" 2) The space is an advantage yes, but a lot of it is wilderness, which causes problems 3) Aside from the prestige that comes from the Iron Throne being able to claim all of Westeros, there isn't really anything north of the neck anybody in the Seven Kingdoms desperately wants or needs or would miss if the North pretends to be independent, so there might be less interest in re-conquering it. Doesn't change the fact that the North will only be "free" of those "ebil, nasty" southern plots for as long as the South allows them to be, not matter how "independent" they claim themselves to be.
  13. There's a "magical" new invention called ships. But I guess Northerners have never heard of it :-P
  14. Except they totally will. It's not like gaining independence will magically severe the neck and create a magical barrier that "protects" those frozen barbarians from everything that happens directly south to them. The only thing a Northern independence would lead to would be endless wars in which the Seven Kingdoms retake it.
  15. Nope, the Vale doesn't do it. There is a physical place inside the kingdom called "The Vale of Arryn" and the name was adopted for the whole kingdom. It's like "The State of Washington" So it's not "Region Name + Ruler Name" but only "Region Name" You have to look how these names would work: 'The Vale of Arryn" implies that there's a valley called Arryn. Vales/Valleys have been designated like that before in the real world and in fiction.Vale of Glamorgan ""The North of Stark" meanwhile implies hat there's a place called "Stark" and you are talking about the northern portion of that place called "Stark"