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  1. At first I was going to say Euron would probably be the least unpleasant and dangerous option, then I remembered what he did to Aeron when the latter was a child... so yeah unpleasant doesn't even start to describe it. Still gonna say that Euron would be the least dangerous option; if he's having you on his ship eating his foods rather than with the woman he raped to sire you, it means he wants you there (even if the reason for that might be very, very, very awful) maybe even because he has some role for you in his plans, which would ensure your survival until you have fulfilled that role. And there is the option to try and run for the hills next time the Silence is ashore. Even if it is a slim chance, it's there and you could try to reach Braavos, which, while pretty cold and damp, is probably the safest place from Euron. Or maybe one of the innland cities (gotta stay away from the sea) Any child of Gregor living in his household has no chance at all of surviving past infancy. The first time you cry, Gregor's gonna get annoyed at the loud noise and smash you against the next best wall until you have stopped crying (i.e. are dead) The Bolton option would probably be the least unpleasant one. Chances are Roose would leave you alone most of the time and not really care about your existence. You're probably just at his keep because Domeric wanted both his brothers around. Now that you know what Ramsay's like and how slim your chances for survival are with him around you have a few options: 1)High risk, high reward: get Roose to tolerate you and conspire with him to get rid of Ramsay, pointing out that your older brother is much more a danger to the continued existence of the house than he is of potential use. Roose is clearly not fond of Ramsay and I have the impression he kept him around just to have an heir. So there might be hope here. Of course there might be not or Ramsay might get hold of you before you can execute any plans to get rid of him. 2)Asking your father to allow you to become a Maester or Septon 3) Running away and becoming a sellsword somewhere beyond Ramsay's reach. 4)Theoretically you can also join the Night's Watch, but really getting flayed by Ramsay is more fun than spending the rest of your life at the worst place in Westeros... So yeah, can't really decide between Euron's or Bolton's
  2. Still stark kids living on as Wolves and frolicking through the forest is nothing short of ridiculous. So the Iron Thorne being shattered isn't about "Gritty and Realistic" it's about YOUR wishfullfilment. Okay then. The Iron Throne united 8 warring nations and keeps the Iron Born under the heel they need to keep them from raping and enslaving everybody else. Henry Tudor, the Glorious Revolution, Napoleon, the Bourbon Restoration, the various times the an Egyptian dynasty DID restore the Two Kingdoms, the reunification of China after the warring states period the Meji Restoration... the Beginning of the Romanov Dynasty. I never said it always happens, only that it has frequently happened in history. Now list the occurrences where people ended up being trapped inside animals. .
  3. Yes and having Jon and Arya jump around as magical wolves, running free as the wind blows, frolicking in flower meadows and having a litter of cubs, is "gritty and realistic" That's fanfic territory right there. Do they name their cubs Eddard, Catelyn, Brand, Rickon, Robb and Sansa, as well? And, just saying in the real world people ending up on a throne of a country that previously had fallen to civil war has happened considerably more often than people having their minds transplanted into animals.
  4. Because they are pretty much just random listings of food.
  5. Interesting! Did not know that!
  6. Edward VII actually, forgot to type a "I" :-P Edward VIII was the guy who abdicated the throne to marry Wallis Simpson.
  7. Throne Names, names a ruler chooses to reign under, aren't that unusual. Look at Edward VII who was really Albert/Bertie to his family. Victoria was, technically Alexandrina Victoria as well, but was called Victoria in private as well after her coronation, because she disliked anything that had to do with her horrible childhood. Both these monarchs chose throne names because their actual names (Alexandrina and Albert) were too foreign and atypical for their realm. So if Jon chooses to reign as a Targaryen he might as well call himself Aegon VI in order to give himself more legitimacy. I don't really see the issue with him keeping Jon as a name among friends and family. It's not like people address their relatives or friends by private pet names at official ceremonies.
  8. I think super villain often gets used to describe those characters who are larger than life in their evil deeds, brutality and sadism to a point where yes, they are rather flat and pure black in their morals and not very complex characters, but they are so entertaining and lavish in their own evil so much that they wind up beloved characters. The types of character where you read a chapter and have to stop because you are actually close to laughing at how surreal their actions are. I know I actually went into a laughing fit when GRRM described how the Unsullied are made, because it's so ridiculous. Same with Ramsay and Euron, those two guys pretty much jump around with slasher smiles 24/7 holding up giant "I am a bad guy" signs while wearing full black outfits and cackling to themselves. If Westeros had railways Ramsay would already have tied some peasant girls to their tracks. If they had mustaches they would have by now fallen off because of the constant twirling. Those two are flat, unrepentant villains, but they are saved by being so entertaining and by being also very charismatic. It's like Maleficent (proper Maleficent not the Lifetime movie cliche/victim the Angelina Jolie movie turned her into. Proper Malificent would sneer at her Lifeaction counterpart and then have her "done away with") she is irredeemably evil, doesn't comprehend good or selflessness and is so stereo typically villainous and petty that she personally sends winter frosts just to ruin pretty flowers. But she is so grandiose and charismatic, in her own way, jovial and happy, that you cannot help but be entertained by her. The Joker is another example. And all of them also have the power and the ruthlessness to back up their "Look at me, I'm the bad guy/girl" personas. They can all kill/torture you in ways you don't want to imagine and might do so simply because they are bored, or because they cannot think of a reason not to do so. I think the reason why they are so entertaining is because they break our natural sensibilities about how people behave towards others so completely, and things that are unusual or break against norms are often popular. This particular kind of villain wouldn't even work in human society (not on a permanent basis, anyway) because there'd simply be no society if people acted that way, which makes it interesting all by itself. It also goes against most people's natural desires as social animals; to receive affection and acceptance from others and show them to others. We want to understand how those completely alien creatures work and the more we see the more we just realize how bizarre and alien they are and it ends up fascinating. Super Villains like that are awesome and I'm glad we have them in ASOIAF. People like Gregor and Littlefinger don't quite fit the bill of Super Villain because, Gregor is a flat and boring villain, he's just "warrgh kill!" basically a stereotypical Orc, while Littlefinger is a sociopath, but capable of functioning in society. Very few people know how ruthless and calculating he is. Cersei meanwhile tries and fails at being a Super Villain due to how stupid and ineffective she is.
  9. That was just for dramatic effect, the scene wouldn't have worked the same way if Drogo had taken the time to properly melt down gold in a realistic manner before pouring it on Viserys.
  10. I'm more curious as to whether their kid will have the Valyrian silver hair.. My ex and I used to have a joke back in the early seasons when Emilia Clarke's acting wasn't very good and Kit Harrington constantly had his mouth hanging open. We'd say that they should reflect those two qualities in their (inevitable) offspring and have their daughter be played by Kirsten Stewart. It would be glorious. Difficult to say what they';; gonna name their child Lyanna is a possibility. Aunt and nephew is not incest by medieval standards. Neither is cousin-cousin.
  11. Though kinda makes you wonder how practical a throne that places the king that high up would really be... Wouldn't everybody who sits it have to shout constantly so that anybody in court, at all, can even understand them (and vice versa)? I mean those illustrations look quite a bit higher than any real life throne arrangement I have seen in paintings/read about/was able to find via google.
  12. Jokes are supposed to be funny Mimic and tone of speech do not translate into text and with people these days you can never be sure what laughable opinion is a joke or genuine. Also, if you do not want people to respond to things you write, you should not put them on a public discussion forum. And I'm not snarling, what gave you that idea?
  13. Who says that a "smallest government possible" is any sort of "ideal" state? That's what dictatorships are... Cersei is an atrocious "queen" who doesn't give a damn about her own subjects or about really anything aside from herself .The only reason that she hasn't got a Small Council is because she is too paranoid and too greedy for power to trust anybody. King Robert meanwhile, for all his faults, brought the Realm 15 years of peace and prosperity. At least he, unlike Queen Romulan (the ugliest of Dress) realized he was too stupid and lazy to govern that giant place. Which, in turn, makes him actually smarter.
  14. So are you suggesting the show should have spent 3-4 seasons on Tyrion being a drunken mess on the Shy Maid and Daenerys having audiences in Meereen? Riveting! I agree they should have kept Arianne and Faegon, and shouldn't have merged Sansa's and Jeyne's story lines, but you can't make three seasons out of just that. There was not enough material. Not defending the specific choices the show did, but some of the train wreck AFFCDWD needed to be cut/streamlined. Yeah no. 1) Jon, in the book, is either not dead, or will also be resurrected in some way, not matter how much you dislike him. 2) If anything Faegon was cut in order not to steal Daenerys' thunder (what with him actually invading and doing stuff off screen, while Daenerys still sits in Meereen complaining that the people there won't accept her reforms and all)
  15. Why do you insist on turning Sansa into a complete moron? It's the War of the Dawn, the Westerosi Zombie Apocalypse. They have more important stuff to worry about than who their King/Queen might be if and when they survive the whole invasion. Also, really, splitting up the Kingdoms and/or and independent North never were a particularly good idea. And for Sansa staying connected to the South means that importing lemons for lemon cakes is easier and cheaper.
  16. 1. I think what we saw with Sansa and Arya was a consequence of flawed storytelling more than anything else. There clearly was a lot of interacting between Arya, Sansa and Bran that happened offscreen. I think the dagger was a clue to Sansa about Littlefinger, not a threat. Or perhaps the whole scene was acted in hopes Littlefinger or his spies would see it. She executed the Freys that were responsible for the murder of her mother and brother, then she didn't kill Lannister soldiers that hadn't done anything to her, doesn't seem "fickle", unless we count her not killing the Hound as "fickle" as well. 2.You name Theon of all people as "well written"? Ooookay... 3. Varys doesn't make sense because they cut out Aegon, nothing that can be done about it now. Nothing about the Sand Snakes ever made sense because their whole storyline was a failed, misguided, completely atrocious attempt at what two brodudes think "feminism" and "empowered women" are. 4.Sandor has been badly written since he has left King's Landing. So he finally has said something that wasn't complete horse shit? Good for him. Then again it's probably just like Nostradamos, if someone says a lot of confused horseshit they are bound to get something right, eventually.
  17. The "it's too obvious" line has also been used against Jon being the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna (and is still used by book purists that way), didn't stop that from being true. Plus it's not so much "obvious" as it's "logical" and that both book readers and show watchers had enoguh time to figure it out (just like with L+R=J) Sansa was suspected to be the Younger, More Beautiful Queen by Cersei (hence her treatment of the girl), Margaery was suspected to be the Younger, More Beautiful Queen by Cersei as well, hence her batshit methods to bring her down. Daenerys, so far, has not entered Cersei's thoughts as TYMBQ (particularly because she seems to think she has defeated the prophecy by killing Margaery and being pregnant again), so it's not obvious to Cersei. Really by now Daenerys is the only candidate left.
  18. Not really. While I have to say I never found Bronn and Tryion "witty", in this episode particular they flapped their mouths a lot without saying anything at all. Not really, again. The whole Dragon Pit tangent was annoying as can be. I'm just glad Cersei wasn't sincere with her truce, that's the one saving grace about it all. The purple wedding had more great characters in one place. Not by a long-shot. And we have seen enough wights by now, so this one wasn't special. Of course they are good actors, the scene itself however did really nothing. With Cersei we are exactly where we started, with the sole exception that Jaime left, so a scene with Tyrion and Jaime might have been better. Well we already knew that he's the son of Rhaegar and legitimate, all we have now is the name, which is nice I guess. Plus the wedding scene was nice to have. And the confirmation that Lyanna went on her own free will. Oh hopefully, now we'll just have to see if it wasn't too little to late. This was pretty well done, it reinterpreted some of the more batshit scenes this season. However it had the immense flaw that a lot of great stuff between the three Starks had to happen off-screen this season just so that this scene can be "surprising". Good to see Littlefinger dead, finally. Now my "seven graces" 7. Snow in King's Landing. Winter has finally come. (Though it was a bit weird to go from pleasant Mediterranean sunshine in one scene, to dark snowy winter the next.) Judging from Cersei's wardrobe we perhaps are meant to deduce that it has been chilly for the whole season, but that would make all the open windows and galleries (and lack of fires for warming) a bit strange. 6. Cersei's truce not being sincere. For a moment I was ready to smash something valuable against a wall, but thankfully the writing isn't that stupid and won't force us to watch an alliance between Daenerys and the woman who blew up hundreds of her own subjects. 5. The Wall collapsing. Yay. Finally! Pity it was at Eastwatch and not at Castle Black, would have loved to see the remnants of the Night's Watch decimated and buried under their own penal colony. 4. Jaimie leaving Cersei. Plus a very small part of me kind of hopes that the emphasis on his golden hand during his last scene means that he has strangled Cersei. I know that's probably not it, but I can dream, can't I? Maybe it's foreshadowing that he will? 3. The Wedding between Rhaegar and Lyanna and the confirmation that Lyanna went with him on her own accord. Of course the book purists who fantasize about their perfect Robert/Lyanna pairing and Rhaegar the Deatheater won't accept that, but who cares? 2.Littlefinger's demise. Beautiful, even with the flaws it had. He was entertaining once, but he has been rather dull and pointless ever since they chose to combine Sansa's plot with Jeyne Poole's 1.The last scene between the Stark Sisters. Was good to finally portray them as having at least some respect towards one another. I'd just preferred it if it had gone more along the lines of: "I wouldn't have survived the things you did." "I wouldn't have survived the things you did either." 4.
  19. Right, I should have clarified two different dynasties that held the same title/crown/chair. Aside from the Baratheon Revolution and the Iron Born Kings (who are somewhat murky in this regard, as you point out) we don't really have many examples of Westerosi royal dynasties following one another in the books. It's also kind of odd that the non-royal Great Houses (Stark, Tyrell, Lannister, etc.) don't seem to have any numbering convention since the rise of the Iron Throne. Even if we assume the numbering chain was broken due to them not being kings anymore, it would be a weird coincidence if none of the Great Lords have a name that has not been repeated in the last three centuries. With a few I would find it easier to accept, but with each of them? Not a single Tywin Lannister II or Eddard Stark III... it's kinda odd, considering those houses have held their titles since the Targaryen Invasion.
  20. Exactly. Plus, they weren't even separated! Ned was off to fight in a war. So the closer analogy would be the partner bringing a child home after a long business trip/tour of duty. I agree very much. I found Robb's cause pretty unsympathetic, so I enjoyed Cat's arc, her helplessness to safe her children much more interesting and relatable. I also find it very, very, interesting that Cat gets called "selfish" for freeing Jaime to safe her daughters, but Robb doesn't get called selfish for refusing to exchange Jaime for Sansa (and as far as he and Catelyn knew, Arya). He left his sisters as prisoners of war to his enemies!
  21. None. I want the main story finished before I purchase any more supplementary material.
  22. Actually. In the real world Kings and Queens continue to use the numbering even if they are from a different dynasty. Best example: Queen Elizabeth I (of the House of Tudor) and Queen Elizabeth II (Of the House of Windsor/Sachsen-Coburg). Or look at the various Williams and Edwards of the English throne who simply continued the numbers throughout the various dynasties and cadet branches. Same with the French Kings and the use of the name Louis and the Russians with their Alexanders, Catherines and Peters who all kept the numbering throughout the various dynasties that ruled Russia. These numberings are tied to the crown, not to the dynasty. Often, when monarchs acquired another crown they even acquired another numbering, like King James IV of Scotland, who later also became King James I of England. So, if the naming of the Kings of Westeros follows the same conventions as real world monarchies then, if Joffrey had been named Aegon, he definitely would be Aegon VI/Aegon the Sixth of his name, but only upon his coronation, up until then he'd just be Aegon Baratheon. We do not have an example of Kings of different dynasties having the same given names in the books right now, so we can only compare it to real life dynasties.
  23. ^ Word. Also Lysa. And to a lesser extend pretty much any highborn lady. Medieval Aristocrats simply have a mindset that is quite alien to modern sensibilities. They are used to being the centre of the universe and so they, naturally, think of themselves and their own tragedies as more important than those of others. Some do less so, some more, but from where I stand Cat is far from one of the worst examples. I can name very few actions in the books I can't relate to on some level, and I get the feeling many people only give her such an abysmal rep because she "dared" to pick on fan favourites like Jon and Tyrion. I can't help but feel for a parent who sees their children thrust into the middle of a bloody civil war (remember, her private vision of paradise consists of nothing more than the Stark family reunited and happy together). One aspect of her I don't like, however, is that she is quick to call out what she names "foolishness" (i.e. stupid or shortsighted behavior) in others (such as Lysa, Edmure and Renly) but she is pretty blind to her own, numerous acts of rash or foolish behavior (capturing the King's brother in law, releasing an important POW, her blind hatred for the Lannisters) So no, Catelyn isn't the "most selfish woman in the Seven Kingdoms" she is human.
  24. Sorry, but this is all just so much completely unsupported Fanwank. Rather than evidence for an a technologically advanced civilization that cloned dinosaurs from amber, what you list are standard tropes of 19th century adventure literature about Africa. The Lost Cities, the terrible diseases, the unexplored, the supposedly demihuman inhabitants with their dark gods and terrible rites. It all smells of "She" rather than "Jurassic Park" Oh but it does very much matter. Magic is something we see in Planetos, advanced technology would add an additional scifi plot that we have no evidence of and that is, imho not needed. Uhm, no? There is, again, no evidence at all for what you claim right here. Why wouldn't the unicorns of Skaagos be the "actual" unicorns of ASoIaF? The only thing Leaf said about Unicorns is that they are "all but gone" - almost, or as good as extinct. Wouldn't stop a few of them surviving here and there. All of this does nothing to support the idea of the dinosaurs of Sothoryos being the product of some ancient, highly technologically advanced Jurassic Park.
  25. I don't really see that much of a change. She's the same rabid, hypocritical unusually large, angry squirrel she has been since season 1. She's just more open about it these days.