purple-eyes

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  1. I think this is just an extra reason for Rhaena to surrend to Maegor peacefully. She did not want Maegor to destory House Farman.
  2. Maybe first quarrel of jaehaerys and alysanne was that J wanted to marry rhaena as second wife and took Aerea as step daughter and maybe future daughter in law to strengthen his claim. but alysanne got angry and said no.
  3. My two cents: 1. Jaehaerys stole iron throne from his niece Aerea. 2. House Dayne often produces lovely ladies who can be candidate for queen
  4. Ah, did not notice it at all. My apologies. How can I delete this post or just let it stay?
  5. I have not see similar post. GRRM published Sons of Dragon in a book called The book of Swords. It was released recently and I read it. It answered a little bit about the situation of twin daughters of Aegon and Rhaena. After Tyanna finding and capturing them, Maegor decided the elder one, Aerea to become his heir, and the younger one Rhaella to become a septa. So Rhaella was sent to old town (I think a Lord hightower IIRC) but Aerea stayed with her mom Rhaena in King's landing. Yet when Rhaena escaped from Maegor, she took her daughter Aerea with her. Then Maegor was angry so he sent somebody to kill Rhaella but the lord saved and hid her. So both sisters are still alive and they should be around 6-8 years old when Maegor died. So here is the interesting question: Aerea should sit on iron throne after Maegor because she not only was the eldest daughter of Aegon, first born son of King Aenys, but also she was the heir of King Maegor. Why Jaehaerys took her position? This all happened before the Dance, so a daughter should come before her uncle. Is Jaeheaerys a usurper? Is this the reason he made his second son his heir instead of Princess Rhaenys, the only daughter of his first born son? Another interesting person is Clarisse Dayne, a lovely and proud lady who was proposed by somebody to become wife of Maegor. It looks like House Dayne often produces beautiful and attractive ladies!
  6. wow, Rhaegar's ex-wife? Are not we in the book forum? I thought people know the difference between book and show?
  7. I think you do need a little bit Targ blood to ride a dragon. Nettles and three other low born riders are called dragon seeds. They are bastards of dragon lords thus do have a little bit dragon blood. For Adam and Arryn, their father is either Laenor, son of a Targ princess, or Corlys Velaryon, who also has Targ blood from his ancesters. Once you have a drop of dragon blood, you are possible to ride a dragon, but still not necessarily can ride one. Adam got a dragon but his brother Arryn was rejected. Jofffery was refused by his mom's dragon. Corlys and other Velaryon never rode dragons. So briefly, I think Quentyn was not crazy, he has a drop of dragon blood so it is possible for him to be a dragon rider. But he did not succeed just like Arlyn.
  8. Lyanna was never mentioned anywhere as a lady in waiting. Did you confuse her with Ashara, a lady in waiting for Princess Elia? She disappeared 10 leagues from Harrenhall, far away from any of her family. How she showed up there? there are a few possibilities. 1: she was in Riverrun with Brandon, waiting for his wedding. She ran away secretly from Riverrun (maybe claiming she wanted to ride in forest or visit isle of faces, after all she is a very wild woman and great rider) and met Rhaegar near Harrenhal. 2. she stayed in Harrenhall to learn some southern couresys and manners from lady Whent, or simply was a guest for some days. Lady whent likely is Cat's aunt (cat is Lyanna's future sister in law). So it is possible that Lady Whent invited Lyanna to stay for some days. She ran away secretly and met Rhaegar near Harrenhal.
  9. They are certainly not. All dragon lord houses died in the doom except Targ (well, one dude survived but he later disappeared in the doom too). Velayron is just a regular noble house of Valyria, not one of the 40 dragon lord houses. They moved to driftmark much earlier than Targ and they became rich due to trade. Some velaryon people rode dragons but they are children of Targ. Like three sons of Rhaenyra and her first husband who is son of Princess Rhaenys, grand daughter of Jaehaerys. Corlys never rode a dragon even he is a Velaryon.
  10. Honestly I think this is possible. For example, if Aerys and Joanna had sex the night before her wedding, then Joanna and Tywin had sex next night, there is a possibility that Jaime and Cersei can have different fathers. I know they look like each other, but how about both of them look like their mother Joanna? This could explain their resemblance. In this case, I would say Cersei is daughter of Aerys. Her love in wild fire certainly is similar to Aerys's.
  11. somewhere in APP said Benjen joined watch after Robb was born (thus Ned has an heir). I tend to believe benjen joined watch since many Stark sons joined watch, almost like a tradition. Of course if he knew Lyanna eloped for love, he would feel very guilty that he did not manage to inform his dad and Brandon that Lyanna ran happily for a honeymoon.
  12. Unless Rhaegar cried out"Hey cousin, Lyanna loved me back and eloped with me" before he died, I doubt Robert will think Lyanna did everything willingly. Rhaegar cried her name before death, this can only mean Rhaegar loved her, not vise versa. After all, if Rhaegar abducted Lyanna, he must have been extremely interested in/desired her, right?
  13. there is a theory that lyanna and benjen are closer to each other so he knew lyanna loved rhaegar madly. yet he failed to tell his dad and big brothers that lyanna might not be "kidnapped".
  14. True. Actually he became what he is by plot armor. But still, it is better for him to remain bastard.
  15. Honestly I would prefer NAJ because RLJ is so cliche, boring and meaningless. Jon should be a bastard who became king by his deeds, not a hidden prince with best claim to throne. What is the point for him to be a targ?
  16. Lots of people believed Rhaegar kidnaped and raped Lyanna, yet the truth was that R and L were in deep love and they married happily and secretly. It was a honeymoon, not a crime. So obviously there was a lie, but made by whom? 1. Little finger. He seems to know something when he talked with Sansa before statue of Lyanna. He loved Cat and felt jealous towards Brandon. He was badly injured by Brandon too. So when a teenager (15?), badly-injured Little finger stayed in a litter on his way back to fingers, he somehow saw Lyanna and Rhaegar ran off together like two lovebirds. Then later he somehow informed Brandon that Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna. Then Brandon believed and got angry and ran to KL. 2. Robert. Since Rhaegar bravely annulled his marriage to make himself single again to marry Lyanna, Lyanna decided to send a letter to Robert her future-husband to break up and tell him she chose Rhaegar over him. Yet Robert was angry and insulted so he sent a message to Brandon that Lyanna was kidnapped. Rest is the same. 3. Rhaegar and Lyanna. Lyanna loved Rhaegar and wanted to elope, but she is still a honorable Stark. She did not want people to say house Stark broke their holy betroth because their defiant daughter ran off with crown prince. She did not want Robert to make trouble with House Stark either. she and Rhaegar planned this "kidnapping on swordpoint", so that she would look like an innocent victim. Rhaegar would take all the blame yet Lyanna and Stark's honor is still intact. Then her companion of course will tell Brandon and everybody she was "kidnapped". Rest is the same. What is your opinion?
  17. This is correct. By tradition, Robert should only name Stannis as castellan of storm's end. or summon Stannis to serve in the court.
  18. The problem is that if Lyanna simply disappeared mysteriously, how did people think it was Rhaegar kidnapped her? somebody must have seen R and L were together and also this person had to see something to decide it was a kidnapping not a voluntarily eloping. History book said that Rhaegar and his companions carried off Lyanna at the location of around 10 leagues outside Harrenhal. This sounds like an account from witness.
  19. Why would Lyanna want to send a message to her family? She is eloping and trying to get married with Rhaegar. she needs to keep this as a secret and this is why they hid in a broken deserted tower in the red mountain. If she sent any format of message to her family, they would be able to track her location and take her back home and marry her off to Robert immediately. Lyanna absolutelt did not want this to happen.
  20. Why not Rhaella? she is Dany's mom and she died during childbirth just like Lyanna. Plus she is Jon's grandma as well.
  21. Rhaegar and Lyanna planned and acted as if he "kidnapped" her on swordpoints. The purpose is probably to make Lyanna and house Stark look better. in stead of a defiant Stark woman eloping with a married man and breaking their holy betrothal with House Baratheon, Lyanna became an innocent victim and house Stark could keep their hinor and promise intact. It sounds like something which our brave and honorable Lyanna would request from Rhaegar. ANd yes, this rebellion was based on a lie, a lie made by Rhaegar and Lyanna.
  22. this reminds me when TOJ scene happened, many people said Lyanna actress was not beautiful enough to play this famous woman who literally destoryed seven kingdoms. Then some people claimed that she can not be that beautiful after child birth and before dying, etc. Now we see a healthy and happy Lyanna in her costly wedding dress which is supposed to be the most beautiful moment in the life of a woman, anybody thinks she is beautiful enough to pass as Helen of Troy? Where is the unsurpassible loveliess? where is the wild beauty? where is the slender and athletic beauty who is called half-horse? Lyanna is the winter rose of north and none of flowers is more beautiful and precious than her. They should have hired a more beautiful woman, even Roslin is a better option.
  23. Of course the rebellion was based as a lie. Rhaegar and Lyanna lied to and probably acted to the whole world that it was a "kidnapping" on swordpoint but in truth it is a secret eloping and honeymoon. Do you think Westerosi people will think it is a kidnapping if Lyanna ran to Rhaegar with happy smile and they ended up hugging and kissing each other passionately and then run away together?
  24. As far as we know, Robert only joined melee. Garland is only the prize for jousting.
  25. if you are saying real life example I really do not need your information. Even one of my college classmates took her dead elder sister's name. Her sister died very young so her parents gave them exact same name. what I was saying was," thousands of characters (in this GRRM ice and fire universe)", can you name even one example?