purple-eyes

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  1. Not all the close brothers and sisters are into incest. If you feel like you can say Oberyn and Elia are lovers based on what we have in the books, then we can also say Jon Snow is son of Lyanna and Brandon Stark. Otherwise why Brandon was so mad over Rhaegar having his way with his sister? This can not even be called tinfoil. This is just totally baseless.
  2. there is no doubt that Rhaegar and Lyanna sparked war. They lighted the fire, Brandon poured more fuel, then Aerys added wildfire. Then boom! there is a war.
  3. If Rickon dies and Bran somehow becomes a god, Sansa is very likely the first Lady of Winterfell and Wardeness of North. Depending on her marriage, she might also be Lady of Casterly Rock (Tyrion), or Lady of Vale (Harry or Robin), or even Lady of Stormlands (Edric Storm?).
  4. Brandon is not an idiot. He is just a brother who was extremely shocked by the kidnapping of his beloved child-woman (according to Ned) sister by a group of fully armed and adult men. A kidnapping can mean raping and murdering, these things often happen pretty quickly after the kidnapping too. And as a brother, it is very easy for him to only think about the worst, not to analyze and decide what is the wisest thing to do. It is almost impossible for him to think wisely and calmly in this situation. And it is very normal and common for people to make mistakes during panic. His love in Lyanna drove him to do so in this case. Not everybody decided Aerys sent rhaegar right away. At least not me. In fact, anyone who has read the book carefully knew that Rhaegar did not go to do this immediately after Mystery knight left. Mystery knight showed up and defeated three knights near the end of the day, then the day is over. Then the next morning, this mystery knight is supposed to show up but he did not. So Aerys sent Rhaegar to investigate (so there was at least 12 hours between). All Rhaegar can do is to talk with those three knights, figure out about three squire boys, talked with these three boys, heard about Lyanna and Howland Reed, then searched for Lyanna and Howland Reed, then Lyanna told him what happened, then Rhaegar felt he should just help her hide from Aerys' wrath, then he brought back that shield as a proof to show his dad he has tried and only found this shield. That is the whole thing. I am not sure why this can importantly hint that Rhaegar and Lyanna knew each other before the HH tourney.
  5. in this case Rhaegar probably did not know about Arthur and Elia’s affair. Arthur of course will feel guilty to betray his friend, his prince and his holy vow. But you know, love is the death of honor. And Arthur and Elia might love each other since they were young at Dorne, or even in watergarden. Because he had to obey Rhaegar to guard Tower of Joy, he could not go back to protect his lover and children. This is absolutely a sad thing for him plus he might already know the death of Elia and his two children. He might already give up the will for living, thus was killed by Ned and Howland. As for Rhaenys, she is three years old and quite recognizable so kind of hard to swap. and Elia seems to love young children (she wanted to take care of baby Tyrion) and it is not surprising she would fight for him. Plus this baby saved her son’s life.
  6. Brandon is hotheaded and wolfblooded but not idiot. He is the heir to the North and a well trained and educated man. If he was told that Lyanna willingly eloped with Rhaegar, he might still be pissed off but would not do what he did. There is nothing in the book hinting R and L knew each other before tourney. By the way Lyanna was only 13-14 years old during tourney. And very likely HH tourney is the first time she came to the south after a harsh winter of a few years. Rhaegar hooked up with her before that? How? And if so, it sounds very bad anyway. Think about Tyrion’s atttitude on Sansa.
  7. Honestly this song always reminds me about Arthur Dayne, Elia and a Kingswood brother (mixture of Ulmer and smiling knight). Somebody (ulmer) stole a kiss from a dornish princess. Then a dornishman (arthur) with a magic dangerous blade (dawn) killed him (smiling knight) . If you combine ulmer and smiling knight, then everything fits. In the song, that guy even “smiled” becore he dies. I would not be surprised if one day GRRM reveals that Arthur and Elia are lovers and Aegon is a bastard son with Dayne blood. He can not only whitewash Rhaegar and Lyanna, but also shows us all men are flawed including Arthur Dayne. Plus young griff can work with Gerold Dayne and use Dawn. Think about this, we know every Dayne’s hair color and eye color, Ashara’s dark hair and violet eyes, Ned’s blond hair and deep blue eyes, Gerold’s silver hair with black streak and dark purple eyes. But we know nothing about famous Arthur Dayne’s hair colorand eye color? suspicious.
  8. I was revisiting the Dance of Dragons and realized that Daemon was very unhappy about Rhaenyra's order of killing Nettles. He spoke in anger that these are words of bitch. It looks like for me his trust in Rhaenyra was completely gone. Then why did he still fight so hard to kill Aemond by himself, almost like a suicide? It would work much better if Daemon and Nettles both rebelled against Rhaenyra. They have two giant dragons, likely largest one after Aemond's dragon. Together these two can kill Aemond more easily, capture King's landing and Rhaenyra, then take the throne for himself with Nettles as his new queen. After all, if Rhaenyra and Aegon both die, the best candidate for the throne would be Daemon anyway, or at least he can serve as the prince reagent for young Aegon III. There were so many options available for Daemon since he owned two dragons (with his lover Nettles), yet he chose the bitterest one. Seems out of character to me and did not make much sense (except GRRM wanted him to have a glorious one-on-one fight as end). What do you think?
  9. Real world probably no because even Robert did not acknowledge him. but in their world, Bran can prove it by checking on the “video” of Robert sleeping with Gendry’s mom and then borth of gendry.
  10. 1. Who lives in Summerhall right before the tragedy? Did anybody own it as what Maekar did before? Summerhall could serve as a place for a younger Targ son. Daeron died years before the tragedy, so it was not him. Is it possible that Aegon gave Summerhall to Duncan and Jenny since he lost Dragonstone? 2. If nobody lives in Summerhall and Targ family came here only for retreat, then why did Rhaella, a heavily pregnant woman who might give birth anytime, travel all the way from KL or Dragonstone to Summerhall? It is not a very short distance and certainly not a good thing to do for a pregnant princess. Is it possible that since Jaehaerys had Dragonstone, elder Prince Duncan was in the court for service, then Aerys was given Summerhall as home after getting married? This could explain why Rhaella was there right before the birth. She lived there and other people came here to visit her (and welcome the new baby). If this is the case, then no wonder Rhaegar is so sad over his life. In order to welcome and see him, Egg decided to meet at Summerhall, then since all blood of Dragon will meet at Summerhall (with their dragon eggs, probably), Egg decided to wake the dragons here. (not saying this Rhaegar's fault, but it is not hard to imagine he would feel sad about this) But still, it is strange that we only heard about death of Aegon V and Duncan, but knew nothing about other Targ family members: Aerys, Jaehaerys, Sherra, Maegor, Vaella, Rhae, Daella, Rhaelle, Jenny, Betha Blackwood, and possibly Daenora, and possibly--------------Sheira Seastar! She is maximally 81 years old and could be pretty as a maiden still. Did she practice some blood magic over there at Summerhall to wake dragons (and failed miserably)? I bet GRRM has not completely decided how to write about them yet So many Targs around.
  11. That comment on Lyanna was from her brother who loved her extremely. I would say it is biased. Lyanna should be a pretty girl, but not a stricking beauty like Cersei or Ashara.
  12. Lots of people believed Rhaegar kidnaped and raped Lyanna, yet the truth was that R and L were in deep love and they married happily and secretly. It was a honeymoon, not a crime. So obviously there was a lie, but made by whom? 1. Little finger. He seems to know something when he talked with Sansa before statue of Lyanna. He loved Cat and felt jealous towards Brandon. He was badly injured by Brandon too. So when a teenager (15?), badly-injured Little finger stayed in a litter on his way back to fingers, he somehow saw Lyanna and Rhaegar ran off together like two lovebirds. Then later he somehow informed Brandon that Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna. Then Brandon believed and got angry and ran to KL. 2. Robert. Since Rhaegar bravely annulled his marriage to make himself single again to marry Lyanna, Lyanna decided to send a letter to Robert her future-husband to break up and tell him she chose Rhaegar over him. Yet Robert was angry and insulted so he sent a message to Brandon that Lyanna was kidnapped. Rest is the same. 3. Rhaegar and Lyanna. Lyanna loved Rhaegar and wanted to elope, but she is still a honorable Stark. She did not want people to say house Stark broke their holy betroth because their defiant daughter ran off with crown prince. She did not want Robert to make trouble with House Stark either. she and Rhaegar planned this "kidnapping on swordpoint", so that she would look like an innocent victim. Rhaegar would take all the blame yet Lyanna and Stark's honor is still intact. Then her companion of course will tell Brandon and everybody she was "kidnapped". Rest is the same. What is your opinion?
  13. Well, for other people, maybe. But Rhaella is carrying his first great grandchild, and also this baby is from a union which might bring Prince that was promised according to Jenny's witch friend. So I guess even Aegon himself would not want to run this risk.
  14. King's blood, the more the better, the more the more powerful. It is not that important to know who owns Summerhall, but I just felt that it did not make much sense for rhaella to be there if she lived on Dragonstone or King's landing.
  15. This topic has been brought up many times before. It is nothing new honestly. Three swords represented three children of Rhaegar. First two failed miserably but the last one succeeded. And Lyanna is the Nissa Nissa, etc. (but how come water and lion relate to Elia or Rhaenys or Aegon? ) In fact, not only "lightbringer" can serve as a symbol of Rhaegar's member since he had to stick it into Lyanna's body to produce Jon Snow, people also proposed before that "tower of joy" is also a symbol of Rhaegar's member. And "Prince's pass", where the tower of joy located inside, is a symbol of Lyanna's female part. it is the very "pass" where Jon Snow, the Prince, had to go through during birth.
  16. Oh, By the way, after re-reading, I am also totally in the theory that Nettles is a children of forest. She might be Leaf, or simply a COTF like Leaf. And she is very likely the ancestor of GOHH.
  17. Well, people have rebelled for far less that. Lord Baratheon rebelled simply because his daughter was rejected by a prince. Daemon literally called her a bitch so there was no respect anyway.
  18. oh,a lot of common names. most typical knes are: Jon, Jeyne, xxanna (lyanna, tyanna, joanna, trianna, dyanna, etc.)
  19. I am afraid you are wrong. King Aerys named him heir. Queen Rhaella crowned him. Both Daenerys and GRRM recognized him as Viserys III. He is definitely a true Targ king, just could not rule since he was on exile.
  20. Only thing can persuade Tywin is the handship and marriage of Rhaegar and Cersei. Nothing less. Rhaegar already either annulled his marriage with Elia or married Lyanna as his second wife. He only needed to either annul his second marriage again or married Cersei as third wife. Either way, Tywin will be ok.
  21. nice post. I think this is the biggest proof that Aegon is not real. Otherwise there is no way that they did not even try to inform Dorne about Aegon during this many years. they were likely afraid House Martell would be able to investigate and eventually figure out Aegon is fake if they were informed earlier and have plenty of time to do so. And there are a lot of people who knew Elia very well in Dorne, if Aegon was raised there, they would realize he did not have anything similar with Elia in his look. She is his mother, even he did not take her hair or eye color, he had to have some feature similar to her.
  22. I guess if he tried, Jon will be killed by Robert and himself would take the black for the best. They just overthrew House Targaryen to seek justice and revenge. Why would he try to install another Targ king? Not to mention Jon Snow is a bastard anyway. (Even Lyanna somehow married Rhaegar, in the eyes of most people, Jon is still a bastard.)
  23. what exactly the new book said about blackfyre? I am confused about "darkening" here. If you burn a metal sword in fire it will become dark because of carbon ashes right?
  24. Elbert Arryn should have gotten much more text considering he is the heir of Vale, future overlord just like Brandon Stark or Robert or Jaime. Yet GRRM only said very little about him which made him much less important than what he should be. This made me feel that he was perhaps a later addition and only served as an addtional reason for Jon Arryn to rebel.
  25. By the way, Danwell’s wife is a Whent no matter if she is Shella’s daughter. So she should be next in line for Harrenhal right? Is this a bug? Or GRRM simply forgot there is another Whent in Riverlands?