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  1. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    Leaf refers to the giants as "our bane and our brothers" so there was either a conflict or at least giants were a threat. Strange that we see "brothers" as I'd assume children and giants are as far apart as possible for humanoids and men would be closer to either than they are to eachother.
  2. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    The mythical Jack and the beanstalk giants could never exist physiologically, you cannot just scale up a human being, bones and musles would not be strong enough. I suspect GRRM knows this and it was his basis for his giants, in contrast to his myths about giants based on our myths about giants.
  3. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    I'd have to look for the exact passage, but I remember Osha suggesting Hodor was part giant. This implies she at least believes such a thing is possible and she may have even seen hybrids in the past.
  4. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    The giants not looking like Jon expected adds realism to the story, and shows Old Nan's tales may have grown taller as they were told. We've seen evidence that humans and giants can hybridize, so I think the Umbers literally have giant's blood. The sigil could be a hybrid and look more man like. It is also a sigil, not a photo. Look at the coat of arms of Albania and compare it to a real eagle. The broken chains are the part I find most interesting. We've been told giants helped build the wall, and I assumed they were asked nicely and happy to help. Seems this might not be the case.
  5. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    So far we've seen our 3 fingered friends as the good guys being oppressed by the invading First Men. I think we are going to find them sacrificing men and maybe even that they started the conflict. I think we may also see several factions of Children fighting each other.
  6. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    Frey pies are different. Wyman knew the tale of the rat cook and intentionally replicated it. If Sansa escaped a castle of giants or Bran climbed too high, these tales fit without anyone in the book trying to make them fit.
  7. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    If you can think of several good candidates off hand, can you post them?
  8. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    Conventional thinking is Lyanna was the knight of the Laughing Tree. Does anyone have an alternative that makes sense? We can speculate it was any other character that was alive at the time, unless they were elsewhere or seen together, but that isn't much discussion unless there is relevance. E.g. I could say Jeor Mormont was Knight of the Laughing Tree, and no one could disprove me, but there is nothing to discuss. I would be interested in theories about the False Spring , but don't have any myself.
  9. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    The Night's King seems like someone who could have any woman he wanted. Even if the Wall was 10 feet tall and she was 20 feet away, he didn't approach her because she was more beautiful than any other woman, even with a myrish lens, I doubt he could see her in enough details to see beauty that separates her from any other women on earth. It doesn't say he fell in love with her from the top of the Wall. He could have merely seen something unusual and went to investigate and became anamored once he got close. It wasn't in the story, but I suspect she looked like someone he lost. Suppose he was Azor Ahai, and killed Nisa Nisa to save the world years ago and now saw her standing their naked and alone on the north side of the Wall. I think we will see the same thing with Yigrette. I know her body was burned, but this works whether this actually is her, or just a monster made to look like her.
  10. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    The Night's King of old Nan's tale really sounds like a tragic hero. "A warrior who knew no fear. And that was the fault in him". I see him as a strong, prosperous and virtuous warrior who's lack of fear lead to his downfall. The biggest question I have is whether he lived after The Long Night or caused it. If he lived after, why would he approach a woman who was an Other? This may fit better with his lack of fear, e.g. he knew she was an Other but was intrigued enough to let himself be seduced, while any other man would not. We don't see any other female Others. Craster only sacrificed sons. This seems to me she was created specifically for the purpose of seducing him. If he caused The Long Night, how was he Lord Commander at the wall? There should be no Wall and no watch. We also hear how Journamum joins with the King of Winter to defeat The Night's King. This suggests to me they were enemies and goes back to my theory that the Wall was the front of a long, protracted war. Perhaps the Wall really was to stop wildlings, or the people who eventually became them, or more likely raised by them to protect against invasion from the south. I am also going to suggest we may have the details wrong and Bran the Breaker was the Night's King. We have the suggestion they were both named Bran, and if he was a Pact breaker, revenge should have been against him.
  11. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    I also thought this strange, not that King Sherrit was a First Man, that isn't strange. But that he would visit the Wall in the North to curse invaders from the South. So possibly it was a magical curse and he needed the power from the Wall. More likely he was visiting the Wall for some other reason and learned something while he was there.
  12. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    The problem I have with apprentice greenseers is the Watch knew they were there and knew they were apprentices, which doesn't fit. Unless in the past the Watch knew about and worked with greenseers. But I am still surprised that part wouldn't have made it into the tale. I like the connection between the 3 eyed crow, who doesn't seem to know how he appeared in Bran's dreams and a monster everyone sees different. But Euron also saw a crow. As to the chains, Bran's are metaphorical, no one saw Bran shambling around in chains.
  13. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    If we are done with the taxonomy of the North, I'd like to get back to The Thing that Came in The Night. 4 'prentice boys saw it, all described it differently, 3 died and 1 went mad. Years later, they were seen following it in chains. If all the boys saw it at the same time, it was an optical illusion or maybe wasn't there at all. But if the boys were separate and it was a creature of ice, water or snow, it could be shape changing. The dead boys in chains sound like wights. I assumed the 'prentice boys were apprentices, which is unusual. Why would they be at the Nightfort? BC seems to think they were apprentice greenseers, which doesn't make sense to me, but does fit with them going mad.
  14. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    After 6 years without a new plot device, I do feel we are trying to create one where none exists. And you kept saying I over analyzed the list of 674.
  15. Heresy 197 the wit and wisdom of Old Nan

    I don't understand what is being argued here. Either both terms are used equivalently, or one is preferred in certain places. How is that of any significance?