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14 minutes ago, Lyanna<3Rhaegar said:

I am & will read it as soon as I get the chance. 

But why watch it if it's so horrible? That's my question. 

Because you don't know whether an episode will be good or bad until after you've gone and watched it.

Some of them are great, others are good. And this season has been up and down a fair amount.

2 minutes ago, Darkstream said:

To be fair to GRRM.

Although, and George has admitted as such, the books don't pay meticulous detail to distances and travel times, they are fairly consistent, and are not blatantly ignored like in the show. ASOIAF may have some errors or minor discrepancies, but Got purposely ignores these details and entails extreme discrepancies in the time line. d$d show a willful disregard for the time line in order to force scenes that they think would be cool and bad ass, IMHO, to the detriment of the story being told. 

Oh, it's absolutely way worse on the show, and has only gotten more pronounced as they diverged from the books.

The books at least had the same route take the same amount of time, more or less. And even when GRRM is fudging the travel times, it's not as blatant.

4 minutes ago, Darkstream said:

Right, but that's the whole point. There is no regard or consistency in the details at all. Just one of the many factors that influence my decision to give a low rating.

And it's not about delaying a story to fit a timeline. It's about planning ahead and writing a good story that doesn't conflict with the time line just for the purpose of checking off plot points without telling the story of how these moments came to be. That's the difference between being a good writer and producing scenes just for spectacle.

To be fair to the show, travel times aren't something that GRRM put a lot of effort into making consistent in the books, either. So that particular problem didn't start with the show, although it's significantly more noticeable this season.

Even odds Dany's approaching or landing somewhere in Westeros or on Dragonstone by the end of episode 10.

3 minutes ago, madchad said:

This show is just getting worse and worse. How did Asha and Theon get to Mereen so quick and this depicting Asha as a lesbian is just absurd. The whole episode was boring  I am slowly losing interest in the whole thing just bring out book 6 George.

To be fair, the last time we saw Asha/Yara and Theon on the show, an episode or two back, they were in Volantis, which is most of the way to Mereen already. And, it's not really all that clear where the Iron Islands stuff lined up with everything else chronologically, at least until they interacted with other plotlines.

But yeah, the fast travel network is getting irritating.

And, yes, book 6 needs to come out asap.

Just now, Lyanna<3Rhaegar said:

This. I don't usually ask or care why someone else votes the way they do but with so many 10/10 votes I have to wonder why do the people that voted 1/10 even watch the show? 

Well, I think it's hard to argue that the camera work wasn't extremely good.

The problem, in my opinion, is that however good it looked, that doesn't make up for the bad writing and plot induced stupidity. Admittedly, that's not been exclusive to this episode - it has, after all, been going on all season - but prolonging bad writing and stupidity doesn't make it any better, it just makes things worse, and a lot of it, especially in the North, came to a head in this episode.

1 minute ago, Timett sonof Timett is God said:

could she have not actually have known they were coming, and wanted to wait for confirmation before potentially letting Jon know?

She didn't even mention the Vale as a possibility. The entire season. Maybe she wants to wait for confirmation one way or the other, but still, if she'd mentioned the Vale as a possibility, Jon would have been willing to wait to find out if they were coming or not.

The only possibilities I see are she was deliberately setting Jon up or, she doesn't want Jon to know she asked Littlefinger for help because she's planning on screwing Littlefinger over.

I'll give it points for the cinematography. It was exquisite camera work. The Mereen stuff was actually rather solidly written.

Unfortunately, the writing for the North just failed. Failed hard enough that the cinematography and Mereen don't make up for the stupidity. Admittedly, the stupidity has been ongoing for most of this season, but prolonged stupidity is no less stupid.

Jon explicitly asks Sansa "Where do you suggest we get more men?" And she says nothing.

Right now, it looks like Sansa was deliberately setting Jon and the Stark-loyal forces up to get slaughtered by Ramsay.