AnarchoPrimitiv

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  1. The World of Ice and Fire - The Reach: Oldtown Who built it? When? Why? Most maesters accept the common wisdom that declares it to be of Valyrian construction, for its massive walls and labyrinthine interiors are all of solid rock, with no hint of joins or mortar, no chisel marks of any kind, a type of construction that is seen elsewhere, most notably in the dragonroads of the Freehold of Valyria, and the Black Walls that protect the heart of Old Volantis. The dragonlords of Valryia, as is well-known, possessed the art of turning stone to liquid with dragonflame, shaping it as they would, then fusing it harder than iron, steel, or granite. If indeed this first fortress is Valyrian, it suggests that the dragonlords came to Westeros thousands of years before they carved out their outpost on Dragonstone, long before the coming of the Andals, or even the First Men. If so, did they come seeking trade? Were they slavers, mayhaps seeking after giants? Did they seek to learn the magic of the children of the forest, with their greenseers and their weirwoods? Or was there some darker purpose? Such questions abound even to this day. Before the Doom of Valyria, maesters and archmaesters oft traveled to the Freehold in search of answers, but none were ever found. Septon Barth's claim that the Valyrians came to Westeros because their priests prophesied that the Doom of Man would come out of the land beyond the narrow sea can safely be dismissed as nonsense, as can many of Barth's queerer beliefs and suppositions. This specific passage from the book has been mentioned in a previous post from a few years ago among several other statements from Barth and while the resulting discussion dissected these statements, nearly all of it ignored the one which I specify as the subject of this post. I'm interested to know if anyone has some thoughts on this passage; is it just something said in passing with a "wink" by the collaborative authors of this book, or is it more important than that? If it is more important, then a plethora of implications may be deduced....is it possible that the Valyrians (perhaps a clandestined, niche cult held the belief?) foresaw the [re]emergence of the Others? Did any of those with Valyrian blood such as the Targaryens (of consequence to the story at large; e.g. Rhaegar, Jaehaerys II Targaryen and/or his married children Rhaella and Aerys), know of this prophecy and could it have possibly influenced or motivated any of their actions? Again, part of me wants to believe it was just meant as an inconsequential wink and nod to the reader, but I still hope otherwise.
  2. Sometimes I wonder if questions like this, and many other historical mysteries, will ever be answered.....I also wonder sometimes, when individuals' theories get really detailed, or "out there" if even GRRM takes it to such levels...am I the only one who thinks that sometimes?
  3. So, my mother is 66 and recently retired and she knows what a huge fan I am, and obviously I continually try and convince her that she should start reading the series. Recently, however, I've been rethinking my suggestion, especially since now it seems like it'll be a miracle that Winds of Winter will be released in 2017, for the honest and pragmatic reason that there is no guarantee she'll be alive by the time the last book is released, and that, at least in my opinion would be a tragedy...to go to your grave having never known the conclusion which made me start thinking. Like many, I become disappointed every time the new book's release is postponed, but, then I think, well, I've only been a fan since 2012. I'll admit, I had never read or even known about the books until after seeing the first season of the show, the major reason being that from watching the show, I could tell there was way, way more detail to "planetos" than the show could ever include, and I was hungry to know every detail about the world and its history so I veraciously read the books (recently completing my fifth re-read). Anyway, every time the new books release date his postponed, I try to put things in perspective and say to myself, "Well, at least I haven't been a fan since 1996, those people must be way more disappointed and upset than I could ever be..." So now, I'm kind of curious, has anyone here been a fan since A Game of Thrones was published? What's it like to have been waiting 20+ years for the conclusion? it's difficult to wrap my head around that thought, because by the time the series is finished, it could be 25 years of wait...so, what's it like desperately awaiting the conclusion of your favorite series for a quarter of a century?
  4. I think that the second moon was a meteor or comet that exploded in the sky. Now we know GRRM is influenced by irish mythology (the COTF an obvious illusion) and some prominent anthropologists now believe that a comet or meteor that came close to earth 3500 years ago, and glowing red in the sky(sound familiar?) and is the basis behind the Irish god Lu. Don't know if anyone has come across the Lightbringer is Lucifer site, but I recommend that everyone check it out: https://lucifermeanslightbringer.com/
  5. Have you ever seen the animated movie "Wizards" by Ralph Bakshi? It's pretty much your theory, it takes place a million years in the future, after nuclear war wipes out our current civilization, and after the eadioactivity subsides in some places, elves, dwarves, etc. start to reappear again. One of the reasons I started thinking about this whole issue is because of a youtube video by GoT Academy where one of the guya jokingly predicted that the last scene in the series would be hundreds or thousands of years in the future and some modern construction workers are starting up a bulldozer to knockover the weirwood tree that bran and bloodraven are/were in..."Hey, Carlos...get that bulldozer started up, we haven't got all damn day"...I thought it was pretty funny, but it got me thinking. I think one of the "hardest" elements to digest, and someone pointed it out above, it that a family like the starks is claimed to be the defacto rulers of the north for thousands of years, when in our reality, there is really no example of a single family or lineage ruling for 5000+ years. Either way, I'd like to kidnap GRRM and force him to clarify a few things. One of the biggest mind blowers though was in AWoIaF where it was stated that the ironborn claim that the seastone chair was already there when they arrived, and that there are structures around the world made of an oily black stone that must have been made by some previous advanced society that predates the history of every know civilization...I would just love for there to be a detailed timeline released after the series is finished, that'd be awesome.
  6. Actually, there's evidence that the first men DID have Iron, just not Steel (and if you remember, humans on planet earth had iron for some time before they developed Steel, which is just iron infused with carbon. In Old Nan's tale about the others, she says: "They were cold things, dead things, that hated IRON and fire...", now, even though the accounts of different people in the story can lack reliability, I tend to take Old Nan's tales as rather truthful, and here where she says the others hated iron, well, we know the others came before any Andal (Nan even says "this was long before the days of the Andals"), so the only way the others could be known to hate iron, is if Iron was around.
  7. he's a jets fan
  8. it's not a "normal" reaction, and furthermore, not all 10 year olds are built the same, some are more sentient than others. For instance, do you think a low-born child who has watched village members die from starvation would be as unrealistic as arya? I think Aeya prides herself in not being naive like Sansa, when in fact, her anger at the hound for not being able to single handed kill hundreds of men is VERY naive. As far as a reader being annoyed by it, it is very annoying because even a 10 year old should know one man has no chance against hundreds. I guess all I was looking for was at some point, arya reflecting back on it and realizing she was being a jerk.
  9. It's funny that you say "don't sweat the small stuff" when, in my opinion, 90% of the stuff that people read into and the theories they come up with are things that I don't even think GRRM thought of...
  10. This is something I've been trying to wrap my head around for a while, and so far I haven't found anything directly from GRRM's lips addressing it. We all know that ASoIaF is reflective of a medieval society, especially in Westeros, but what I do not understand is whether this represents the extent of Westeros' and Planetos' technological/anthropological development or not. In other words, on Earth the Medieval period lasted from the 5th to the 15th century AD, so if this is the assumed period we find Planetos in, does that mean that, hypothetically speaking, if we were to transport ourselves 500 to 1000 years into Planetos' future, would they be driving cars and flying airplanes? OR has human civilization in Planetos reached the limits of its technological progression and will forever be at its current level? The reason why this is confusing to me is because the documented history of Westeros/Planetos lacks so much detail, and the way it's presented, even in A World of Ice and Fire, makes it seem that the current level of technical progress has been the same since time began with a few exceptions (bronze>iron>steel, or in A World of Ice and Fire how it mentions that round towers were a development that replaced square towers on a castle's curtain walls). For Example, we know Winterfell has been around since Bran the Builder allegedly, but we have no idea as to how it began, how it evolved and progressed, etc., from what we know, it makes it seem like the form it is in now is the way it's always been. We know it has a "rambling" floor plan from Bran's descriptions from AGoT, but there is nothing that specifically states that Winterfell or any other of Westeros's castles started out as mott and baileys with wooden palisades and Wooden keeps, then went to stone, etc I guess what I'm looking for is a comparison to the development of REAL human history. So, if the long night was supposedly 8000-10,000 years ago, the Andel invasion was 6000-8000 years ago, and we know that originally the first men only had Bronze, when exactly did the humans on Planetos transition from the Bronze age to the IRon Age? I'm assuming Planetos is currently in an Iron age, but when did it start exactly? BAsed on our progression, I suppose Planetos would need to have coal or other hydrocarbons in order to progress further, but does anyone know if Planetos is sort of "locked" in to a perpetual stasis like what is done in so many other fantasy worlds? Where they're just forever in a medieval period?
  11. I guess it was more prudent to insult me than discuss the topic? Is there something that offends you about the way I find arya's behavior annoying? If you'll notice, I did ask if I missed sometjing, maybe I missed a detail that would better explain the situation, so I was asking for help to clarify, while you're making it seem like I was making a firm declaration. Either way, I find it quite strange, weird, whatever that you are getting offended FOR arya....a make believe book character...or are you offended by the fact that I wasn't sure if I grasped the situation completely? Please let me know why you felt it necessary to be condescending.
  12. One thing I am very pleased with about episode 10 is how it finally put to rest all those ridiculous theories concerning Ashara Dayne as Jon's mother. I never really understood why anyone believed this theory could be true, because if it was, it wouldn't advance the story at all or have any real repercussions....think about it, if Jon's mother was Ashara dayne, it wouldn't really have any repercussions for Jon's story, nor his place in Westeros. Has anybody else completely dismissed the Ashara Dayne theories from the very beginning like myself, and not because of lack of evidence so much as complete lack of making sense in the larger story...anybody else happy that those Ashara Dayne people were proven wrong?
  13. in the books, Blood Raven explains to Bran that time is not linear like "water flowing in the river"...it is cyclical, the example he gives is that the acorn contains within it the tree, and the tree contains the acorn, aka, there's no beginning and end, but a repeating cycle. So, because time is not linear, a lot of seemingly paradoxical things are possible. GRRM has kind of played with "time" before, specifically in a Clash of Kings where Melissandre tells Stannis that if he didn't confront renly at Storm's End first, and instead attacked King's Landing, she saw a vision in the flames of Renly defeating Stannis at King's Landing, but, she continues, if stannis confronts renly, he will win over his allies. While Mel makes it seem like these events are on two, separate, possible timelines, in reality, we now know that both events happened on the same timeline...not a paradox in the same way as the hodor thing, but definitely an instance previously in the books where GRRM does some interesting things with "time".
  14. But the only counterpoint to that is the fact that the Andals never conquered the north, and according to A World of Ice and Fire, the North was never in danger of falling to the andals like everywhere else in Westeros. Also, your theory is incompatible with the timeline...the Last hero was a first man who had helped to end the long night 8,000 years ago and defeat the white walkers (before the Andals ever even kknew about westeros), so if the Last Hero had defeated the white walkers, how could he himself be turned into the first white walker?
  15. Just so everyone knows, the show creators refer to the main white walker as the Night's King, but they have clearly stated in an interview that even though they refer to him as the Night's King, HE IS NOT the historical figure of the Night's King aka The 13th Lord Commander of the nigt's watch (Old nan said to Bran that many guess that the Night's King, the historical figure, was an Umber or a Bolton, but she specifically says that he was a Stark). I don't mention any of this to support or disprove any theories, I only mention it because it's obvious that a lot of commentors are passing off incorrect information as fact.