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  1. Royce as first family to be named meaningless or foreshadowing?

    Great insights Gloubie! I have been reading your thread with interest. Looking forward to further installments ETA: Did you see @Pain killer Jane's wonderful catch regarding Tyrion -- the greenseer-figure in your example -- having to stand on the back of a fool in order to cloak Sansa? That's analogous to Bran riding on Hodor's back and then later more perfidiously 'mounting' him (note the sexual language used for skinchanging/greenseeing) by taking up residence in the virtual basket, nest, or birdcage inside Hodor's body and mind, tantamount to rape, really. Also, I'm reminded that on Tyrion and Sansa's wedding night, he tells her that in the dark she won't be able to tell the difference between him and the 'Knight of Flowers', which is along the same lines -- and also an echo of his tricksy ancestor Lann impregnating the women without their knowledge (and then the Mockingbird with his telltale 'grey-green' eyes standing on Dontos's back figuratively, in order to get into Sansa's head and knickers)! I'm sure there are many further examples we could find. @LmL: When you return to the forum, please check out Gloubie's great ideas. In your celestial terms, that would be the greenseer/sun skinchanging the comet -- ha ha!
  2. valonqar twist

    LOL. Yes, I do! (Commiserate with LmL, should you have complaints...). You know this is all because GRRM struggled with his relationship with his father. He didn't want to be related to him-- yet he is. Hence the ambiguity with which we are saddled.
  3. valonqar twist

    ha ha. cgrav...you are as adept as a high-wire acrobat...You neatly eluded my attempt into tricking you into admitting that Jaime is a Targaryen!
  4. valonqar twist

    Arya could very well qualify. As one of the 'Faceless Men,' she already embodies gender ambiguity or neutrality, since she is a female faceless man! Arya has a long history of impersonating and/or being mistaken for the opposite sex. Just like a dragon -- neither one nor the other, but both, changeable. In fact, 'no one' is the Stranger archetype, and the Stranger is faceless, with no fixed sex: Foreshadowing for Arya's transformation into a 'faceless man' (Stranger almost 'bites her face off'; note 'Stranger' is a gelding, i.e.a castratee, neither male nor female): So the many-faced god of the Faceless Men is the Stranger! Also, way back Syrio instructed her she's neither boy nor girl -- just a sword. That would be fitting for the valonqar, who is an instrument of vengeance: Arya is the youngest acolyte in the House of Black and White. The Faceless Men speak High Valyrian. Their sorcerous catchphrase which opens the front door to their establishment is High Valyrian -- 'Valar morghulis'. It means 'all men must die'; hence vengeance comes in the form of High Valyrian, just like the 'valonqar'. The Faceless men refer to each other, as one often does in a holy order, as 'brothers'. So, putting it all together: Arya is the younger/youngest brother of the Faceless Men order, which has its roots in Valyria -- she could very well be the valonqar. What's Jaime's Valyrian/Targaryen connection then? Did you read my previous post in which I argued the term 'valonqar' itself is a significant indicator of the identity of Cersei's nemesis.
  5. It's not Alys Karstark, either

    And Asha is also fleeing an unwanted, organised marriage (one of her POVs is entitled 'The Wayward Bride'): At a stretch, one might even argue that Asha Greyjoy is Jon's 'sister', by association with Theon who as Ned's ward was Jon's 'brother.'
  6. valonqar twist

    Hi and welcome to the forum! More important than the qualifiers, 'your' or 'the,' is the choice in High Valyrian of the word 'valonqar' which means 'little brother.' Other than Maggy merely being mysterious and pretentious, that would seem to indicate the younger and/or smaller brother in question has to have some kind of significant Valyrian / Targaryen connection.
  7. Bastards' Secrets: Hidden Meanings in Bastard Names

    @LynnS has previously drawn my attention to this passage, specifically to the curiously inserted ellipsis (...). And we all know how critical GRRM's ellipses are (e.g. that's how we know Joffrey arranged the assassination on Bran!) Why did Ned hesitate, as if suppressing a memory, before mentioning 'fond of flowers'? Could he have been thinking of something to do with the maester at Winterfell at that time, Walys Flowers? LynnS and the others on 'heresy' have even speculated that the maester may have been instrumental in the whole Lyanna abduction drama. In light of your observations here, I'm even wondering if Walys Flowers may be Jon's father, since I've always taken the blue flower to be a hint at the identity of one of Jon's parents (whom we may be over-hastily assuming is Lyanna and/or Rhaegar who crowned her with the blue garland) ?! Being 'crowned' might be a euphemism for having sex, losing ones maidenhead (the 'plucking of the flower') symbolised by the way Rhaegar presented Lyanna with the flowers, at the end of his phallic lance penetrating the flowery ring. But what if Lyanna 'crowned by flowers' might instead imply that Lyanna had sex with (Walys) Flowers, conceiving Jon? It also puts a new spin on the old adage the best time to steal a woman is 'when the thief is in the moonmaid...' Tyrion does say that in the dark (if Sansa has sex with him) he could be 'the Knight of Flowers' and she wouldn't notice the difference; and Littlefinger famously confused Lysa and Catelyn coming to his bedchamber at night; Lann is another who according to legend stole into ladies' bedchambers and impregnated maidens without their knowledge. Was Lyanna similarly tricked into having sex with the 'wrong' person? Wordplay-wise, the 'flower in a wall of ice' translates as Walys ('wall' + 'ice') Flowers. Lady Dustin hints at some nefarious goings-on related to that particular bastard-maester, whom she refers to as a 'grey rat' who is 'not as chaste as they would have us believe': If Jon's father is Walys Flowers, then Jon would be descended from the Hightowers and not Targaryens as is commonly thought. I like it! When will we be treated to the next installment on your thread of your 'kin(g)slaying theory'? Did you see @Crowfood's Daughter brilliant comparison of the three 'brothers' in the prologue as an allegory for the hidden story of a struggle between three brothers (the 'grey', the 'green,' and the 'trickster'...I like to call the latter the 'black') which you're also theorizing lies at the heart of the saga (except you use animal archetypes, 'bear/boar', 'wolf', 'goat' and 'tricksy bird-crow'...I hope you will explain how you arrived at those archetypes soon!) Nice catch. I definitely think Robert Arryn is Littlefinger's bastard. There are plenty of indications, including physical features and personality traits, my favorite being that they both hate porridge ('bran'? ). The first symbolic clue is in the name 'Robin' -- implying he's a different kind of bird to a falcon, and an impostor, meaning another species of bird has laid its egg in the nest (the Arryns are falcons who live in a raptor's nest, the Eyrie). Sweetrobin's the son of another kind of bird (considering Lysa is a fish) -- perhaps the 'Mockingbird' aka 'Sweetpetyr'? The connections you're making to Bran are interesting. While she's in the Eyrie, Sansa fantasizes about being able to fly which is a clear allusion to greenseeing and Bran. I also think Sansa's getting in touch with her dead direwolf Lady's spirit up there, when in spite of the absence of a godswood, nevertheless the 'wolfish wind' reaches her and makes her laugh in delight. Recently @Blue Tiger brought an interesting mythological anecdote to my attention, namely that the 'magic tomb' in which the wizard Merlin was imprisoned may have actually been a magic tree, due to a misunderstanding brought about by a mistranslation of the term 'glas tann,' which was falsely translated as 'glass house' instead of 'evergreen tree.' In the context of ASOIAF, the 'glass coffin' which enables one to see, and confers a measure of immortality, is the weirwood tree. 'Duelling with a glass sword' is using the power of the 'weirnet.' The 'myrish lens' which enabled the Night's King to spy his icy love from the top of the Wall is likewise the 'third eye' -- i.e. the greenseer's weirwood power. The Wall itself can also be understood as a massive extension of a tree in which someone has been imprisoned -- not only the Night's Watchmen in their icy confinement, exiled from society for their crimes real and imaginary; but also the weirwood represented by the 'Black Gate' with its ancient, trapped denizen (the old man in the tree). The skinny weirwood arm reaching upwards through the broken dome of the Night Fort I believe represents an extension of the Black Gate, so this is like the prisoner trying to escape, having smashed the glass ceiling of the glass coffin, as it were. Littlefinger cannot provide the glass for the 'glass house' because he cannot provide the tree. Only his nemesis Brandon Stark can provide that. When Littlefinger pokes his finger into the snow, in order to gouge out the windows, that can also be understood as someone poking his finger into the eye of the Starks -- which has been Littlefinger's basic mission for some time now, ever since Brandon Stark bested him in the duel. In a similar vein, when Littlefinger invades Sansa's space, asking her 'may I come into your castle,' then without waiting for her consent, barges in, straddling the castle and squatting down in the yard -- this is a euphemism for his thinly-veiled desire to take her maidenhead and penetrate her with his 'little finger...' ; and the 'squatting' is reminiscent of someone defecating in order to mark his territory (as well as ruin something for someone else). In symbolic terms, Littlefinger is defecating on the snow of the Starks, turning the white brown/black. Animal 'spoor' includes footprints, disturbed undergrowth, and animal faeces, etc. Note that Ned died and lost Winterfell and his beloved wolfswood because he failed to sight the beast who had invaded. Sansa's task therefore lies in sighting the beast, doing what Ned and Brandon Stark failed to do conclusively, i.e. slaying him; and reclaiming Winterfell before he can spoil it. Seeing the beast means life instead of death. Baelish is not going to give her eyes; she needs to open those herself. What's your interpretation of why he like Aurane Waters has 'grey-green' eyes?
  8. Why did Tywin liked Jaime so much?

    Is that the best you can come up with? He refrained from raping his wife..?! It's a sad indictment of Tyrion's character if that's the most magnanimous action you can point to. Let me enlighten you: Refraining from raping ones wife is neither a heroic, prosocial nor unusual action. Let's not praise something that should be normal and expected as common decorum.
  9. Why did Tywin liked Jaime so much?

    Ah. One of Tyrion's apologists..! How is Tyrion 'better than Jaime' in your opinion? When does Tyrion ever do something for someone else that doesn't immediately benefit himself? And you're right about Tyrion's cruel childhood. Tyrion is incapable of love just because he wasn't loved -- big whoop. P.S. Please don't confuse Tyrion as GRRM has written him with Peter Dinklage's interpretation. Dinklage brings pathos, gravitas, compassion and moral complexity to the role that GRRM never put on the page!
  10. Why did Tywin liked Jaime so much?

    Of all Tywin's children, Jaime is the one most capable of love, and related to that, the one least narcissistic, least selfish, and most predisposed to serving others, personality traits which ironically may have had some bearing in Tywin's affection. Although Tywin was a supreme narcissist himself, and therefore crippled emotionally when it came to loving, in so far as one can speak of Tywin ever 'loving' someone, perhaps he loved Jaime the best simply because Jaime loved him, unlike the others. And let's not forget Jaime killed Aerys, Tywin's arch-nemesis, on account of Tywin. I don't really believe Jaime did it to save King's Landing, suddenly seized by the soul of righteousness; that's just a story he tells himself in retrospect, since acknowledging the criminal things he's willing to do for love is difficult for him. He was willing to kill a seven-year-old child, Bran, because he loved Cersei; he released Tyrion from prison (an act of treason) because he loves Tyrion; and he killed Aerys because he loved Tywin and didn't want to have to face him in combat, knowing full well his father's intentions having entered Kings Landing were not honorable and it might come to that -- forcing Jaime to make a choice between Tywin and Aerys. And Jaime in that moment made his choice -- for love -- for Tywin. Just like he made his choice between Bran and Cersei; and then between Cersei and Tyrion. The last order Aerys ever gave Jaime was to bring him the head of his father, prompting Jaime shortly thereafter to kill him (wouldn't it be great dramatic irony if Aerys not Tywin were really Jaime's biological father...so that when Jaime complies with Aerys's order, we can ponder the arising paradox of whether he is really breaking his oath then..? But I know most of you are all set on Tyrion not Jaime being the little dragonlet-in-hiding, so at least we're spared these further ethical quandaries when it comes to Jaime !)
  11. It's not Alys Karstark, either

    Assuming the lake is to the west of the girl, that means she is travelling on its eastern shore -- not necessarily that she has to be heading south. Heading north, the lake is still to the west of the girl -- on her left-hand side, but still to her west. Heading south, the lake would still be to the west of the girl -- this time on her right-hand side, but still to her west. LOL. Methinks not! It's too out of character for Jon to lock up Arya; or for Jon -- as @TyrionTLannister suggests -- to kill Bran by burning him with dragonfire... But I always get a chuckle out of reading your speculations, nevertheless! Oh, I like that. Arya's way of avoiding an unwanted marriage -- 'stick them with the pointy end, before they can stick you ...'
  12. Cometary Questions: Re-examining the Red Comet

    I have an idea. What's your 'understanding of the meaning behind [those particular] words'?
  13. Cometary Questions: Re-examining the Red Comet

    I'm curious; what's your interpretation -- fulfilling both the story's symbolic as well as your scientific requirements -- then for how a 'sun' or sun-like object might 'rise in the west' in order to fulfill Dany's prophecy? I don't think that was just Mirri being rhetorical in order to deliver a melodramatic 'never!'
  14. Found an interesting article on the superstitions attending the nailing of coins/nails into (or tying of rags on) trees, which might link 'pennytree' to 'penitentiary' (or penny-tentia-tree...?), in line with our recent discussions regarding the weirwood as prison for some 'fell' presence (life sentence without parole): From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1988790/ 'Rituals, ceremonies and customs related to sacred trees with a special reference to the Middle East' Amots Dafni J Ethnobiol Ethnomed. 2007; 3: 28.
  15. Cometary Questions: Re-examining the Red Comet

    Cool pictures. So, the heart of the comet is analogous to the stone in the pommel. In addition to the sword resemblance, it strikes me that they look like feathered quills. So, in that case the heart of the comet is analogous to the nib of the pen, in particular the ink with which one writes. The comet writes its message onto the heavens -- often compared to scratching the face of god -- (and in some cases writes itself onto the earth when it crashes as meteorite). Not being an expert in astronomy, I can't answer to your technical queries. As I've said before to LmL, 'meteors are not my metier; metaphors, however...' Symbolically, the reason it has to appear in the east is for the same reason Dany's prophecy has a 'sun' rising in the west in future. What astronomical explanation do you have for that prophecy, and how might it relate to the comet?