zandru

Members
  • Content count

    177
  • Joined

  • Last visited

About zandru

  • Rank
    Squire

Profile Information

  • Gender
    Not Telling
  • Location
    Albuquerque
  1. This is undoubtedly just me, but I don't see the need for more "dragonriders" than Dany. On the other hand, if Viserion and Rhaegon do accept some non-Targaryons, there's the opportunity for the riders screwing up, anything from pulling an Edmure to just falling off and dying to simple treachery and betrayal. So okay, the dramatics of fiction probably require various doofuses and oafs getting control of these powerfully magical creatures. And Tyrion would be right up there as a candidate. Drunk dragon riding - whooooeeee!!! Yes, I know that was rude. I think Tyrion would have more to offer as a trusted advisor to Dany. His excapades on the battlefield thus far suggest he'd be wasted in the van.
  2. "Gladly?" Are you serious? Tyrion "took" Sansa with great reluctance, thinking himself to be the lesser of evils. And about him f*ing women who "loathed the sight of him", he at no point "forced" them - they had contracted themselves to him for specifically that purpose, and regardless of how they felt, had willingly agreed to have sex with him as part of their jobs. "Any decent man", eh? And yet, somehow none other could be found in King's Landing? You're trying too hard.
  3. I might well ask you this. We can agree to disagree about Tyrion, Tywin, and Cersei; I think that Cersei "loved" her children on the teevie show, but not so much in the books. They were little reflections on her own glory, as her dear twin brother was herself, but with the much-coveted cock. We certainly must give Tyrion credit for not forcing himself on Sansa - the man's "right" was standard in his time, plus the orders from The Hand of The King (aka "good old dad"), and the possibility of gaining Winterfell and the North by impregnating her. But Tyrion always treated Sansa with decency and saved her at least once from Joffrey's sadistic whims. Tyrion would have been a powerful ally in Sansa's hopes to escape or at least thwart the rest of the Lannisters, but Sansa was still deluded by simplistic black & white thinking. And still just other people's pawn. Tyrion started losing me with his obsessive drunkenness and pathetic retreat into asking everyone he met "Where do whores go?" Although, in all honesty, this revealed his internal suffering, which he himself wasn't admitting or addressing, just trying to self-medicate. Ser Jorah's slapping him around the way he did showed a particularly ugly side of Jorah that the Khaleesi would have disapproved of. Maybe we'll see how this plays out.
  4. I'm with - well, everybody else. Book 3 is a major downturn in Tyrion's arc, changing him in ways which will continue to play out as the story proceeds. He spends the first part of the book lying as if dead, being drugged to hasten this fate. His father Tywin usurps "his" handship, then unleashes both barrels, telling Tyrion how he really feels. No Casterly Rock for YOU - EVER!!!! He gets married, against both of their wills, to a helpless child. (And no, Sansa isn't "scheming" and "plotting", she's being moved around the board like the pawn she is.) And then he gets framed for regicide and kin killing. After which, Tyrion gets handed around the board, no better than the child Sansa, as he's shipped off to Pentos in a barrel and from there, handed along, kidnapped, and ultimately sold. It's only as a slave where he is able to take matters into his own hands again. I agree that this is not "the old Tyrion" - but it's for a reason. George RR delights in torturing and breaking his characters. It's the Imp's turn.
  5. Bolton's Burnt Book: Mysterious Reading

    Maybe, but it's also just the typical ritual humiliation of a defeated foe. Like Achilles dragging Hector's body around and around the walls of Troy tied to his chariot. Of course Gray Wind was killed - he was well known to be one of Robb's deadliest weapons. And as many of Robb's men as could be killed were. Heck, the Freys even went after a wayward hog farmer and his little son who happened to turn up at the wrong time in the wrong place! "No Catelyn comeback act", eh? I'd say the return of a man with a direwolf's head would be much more frightening and dangerous. Probably no chance of that, but....
  6. Bolton's Burnt Book: Mysterious Reading

    Apologies for quoting myself, but it occurs to me that, from what we've seen, the Starks concentrate their family histories on the great things the Starks have done, and that the Starks were once the Kings of the North. I'll bet that the Boltons concentrate on the wrongs done to them by the Starks and the times the Boltons defeated them. Remember, per the World of Ice&Fire, the Boltons dressed in Starkskin robes...
  7. Bolton's Burnt Book: Mysterious Reading

    This. I recall, back in the 1990s, how it bewildered most Americans that folks in the former Yugoslavia could be so obsessed by a few incidents that happened 500-1000 years in the past. Not every people is so driven by past history. But some are, and both Starks and Boltons go way back to the First Men. I think that the burning of the book, and the book that was burned are probably both significant. George RR has a way of throwing out seemingly trivial things that end up figuring big a book or so down the line.
  8. Bolton's Burnt Book: Mysterious Reading

    Then why would Roose be burning it, instead of adding to it? It's no more "incriminating" now than it was a century ago. Per mormont again, "Writing down his betrayal ... would be stupid." And I don't hold with the theory that Roose is a zillion-year old vampire.
  9. Bolton's Burnt Book: Mysterious Reading

    Thank you for this. The discussions of the "symbolism" were interesting, but I think many of the speculations went too far. Also, your idea that this ancient book was a copy of the geneology of the great houses is a good guess, in my opinion. I can hardly believe that Roose, a fairly young man (by our standards) would have detailed "plans to defeat House Stark" - and written them out, in detail, and published them in BOOK FORM - so long ago that the pages yellowed and the leather cover cracked. Even if he was some kind of a baby-genius... I strongly doubt that Roose holds much interest in the "game" for the Iron Throne. Rather, he'd be content with the North, an ancient kingdom that the Boltons and the Starks contended over for literally millennia. With Robb Stark having assumed King of the North position and crown, the North has become its own nation once again - and its crown is up for grabs. Plus, it's a big enough and independent enough region that the petulant child-king down in King's Landing has little control over it. House Bolton's time has come!
  10. Well, you caught me in a little hyperbole about the original plotline being out the window. Still, let's look at Ned and Arya's conversation, per the example of Ser Leech: So, you were right. And yet, it makes no sense, because it's Sansa (as Arya noted so astutely) that's been designated to marry the king. THE king; it's not like there are several (at this point in the story) to choose from. What's Ned thinking? He's probably groggy from lack of sleep at this point. This is why I favor Arya's interpretation - that she aspires to be part of the power structure, someone with accomplishments, responsibilities and respect based on what she does. Not a glorified brood sow with a good pedigree. It would be a tragedy if Lady Brood Sow were Arya's fate. Not that this isn't a possibility; George RR is cruel. But as far as what Arya would strive and work towards, it's the position as councilor or even Hand to the king. Well, I was thinking with a 20th/21st century mindset here. I recall the widespread horror at Woody Allen marrying his adoptive daughter - who was not related to him at all - and comparing it with de facto brother-sister conjoining - although they're apparently just cousins. (Something also forbidden in recent history here. Although Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt were cousins... well, let's not go there.)
  11. Thanks! This was great - there's no substitute for hard data, particularly when trying to speculate!
  12. Well, the original outline, which George RR says is now largely out the window, had Jon and Arya finding romance and marriage together. Nonetheless, there's a close brother-sister relationship between them. I hold to the outdated belief that people can love one another without banging and marriage. Moreover, as we know, Jon is apparently dead. There looks to be a good chance he'll come back - and what will change? Will he have more of the wolfish nature, having sought refuge in Ghost while his body bled out? Will he have had prophetic dreams, like Bran did? Might his actual parentage be revealed to him? Will he, as Ghost, be in communication with Nymeria and Summer and Shaggydog? And, by extention, what his cousins Arya, Bran and Rickon are doing and where they are? Face it, Jon could potentially learn a lot more by being dead for awhile that he would have as a living man. Arya asked her father, way back in the first book, whether she could be a King's hand. Were Jon the King of the North (at least), Arya would be a loyal, highly trusted, not to mention well informed and cosmopolitan advisor to him. Someone who knew how to gather and weigh intelligence, and put it all together. I think this outcome would be preferable, not to mention less unsavory, than her and Jon getting it on. My apologies to the romantics.
  13. Amen to that! A'course, he'll have been expectin' it...
  14. Tywin, Jaime and the Sack

    Note that Aerys had only the one Kingsguard left, Jaime. Then he sent Jaime away, with orders to bring back Tywin's head. In theory (the "power of oaths"), it was Tywin who was at risk, and from his own son, not Jaime who was at risk from Tywin. The power of blood was something Aerys hadn't factored in, however. Jaime wasn't likely to kill his Lord Father, in spite of his Kingsguard oath. Would Tywin have killed Jaime in self defense? He could have talked the kid out of it; no problem. So the actual physical risk to Jaime was minimal. Aerys also apparently thought that the risk to himself from Jaime was minimal, given the Kingsguard oath. (And the king was also, as noted, cuckoo-bananas by this time.) Nobody, including Jaime, realized that he had a breaking point, and the combination of being ordered to kill his own father, plus the wildfire doomsday set-up, plus Aerys continuing to order it be set off, even after his pyromancer-hand had been slaughtered, was it. Pycelle would have given Tywin the latest up to the minute detail on the situation in the Red Keep; I suspect he wasn't aware of the wildfire doomsday device. I strongly doubt that Rhaegar and Tywin were pen pals; Tywin wasn't even a participant until after Rhaegar's untimely death.
  15. Lord of Bones kicking Jons butt

    "Stole his baby"? Seriously?? Jon protected Dalla and Mance's baby as she gave birth, the battle raging all around and Jon on the other side. Jon protected Mance's baby and Mance's goodsister Val after the battle. And, by sending Mance's baby away with Maester Aemon and Samwell to Oldtown, he kept it safe from Melisandre's fires. Mance is smart enough to have seen this. He's also smart enough to know that Jon didn't actually have much choice. Well, Ned Stark was no slouch, either. Perhaps a fake mummer-style head (actually a melon!!) was cut off him on the steps of Baelor's, and Ned actually WAS sent to the Wall, according to the original plan! Then he defected and made himself King of the (Very Far) North!! Sure, why not? And his son Jon would never have recognized him in skins instead of more lordly garb, right? A fair number of Westerosi are good - even great - with the greatsword: Gregor Clegane, Randyll Tarley, to name a couple. Ser Illyn is probably pretty competent, for that matter. It would make sense for a wildling-born like Mance to fight with a two-handed sword, as they don't seem to have very good shield technology, and it's one less thing to drag around.