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  1. Well, the milk of the poppy would have Gregor sitting limply in his solar, awestruck by the beauty of the sun on the floating dust particles, not off actively killing, pillaging, and raping. Not to mention the chronic constipation. And Robert Baratheon, basically, was a spoiled child by the time we pick up his story...
  2. Hang myself. You?
  3. Sure there are "heros" and "villains." Only sometimes they're the same people. Nearly every character has some heroic parts; even the shiniest has some bad parts. Moreover, most of the main characters will change with time. Arya, for example, seems to be on a bad arc at the moment, but we shouldn't give up hope for her yet. And so on.
  4. Adding to the severe injury from the boar's tusks, Robert's belly was most likely full of wine and food, causing immediate sepsis. A massive belly wound is nothing that Westerosi medicine is able to handle under the best of circumstances. It wouldn't have mattered if doddering elderly Pycelle had been hauled along. And if Qyburn had been onsite ... well, that might have been interesting.
  5. It's my humble opinion that you'd be closer to the mark if you considered all these things as symbolic.
  6. Actually, there are A LOT more smallfolk than nobility, and this has been the case throughout all of Westeros's history. The odds of "Craster" (just GOT to be "Casterly"?) no surname being of nameless (literally) non-noble birth is just overwhelming. The fact that he lives in a large hut on higher ground doesn't echo a castle, much less "Crasterly Rock"; the fact that lots of animal and human shite has accumulated over the decades is what happens with inadequate, medieval sanitation; and who isn't interested in gold and blades; etc. Symbolism in a story is one thing, and GRRM is really good at it. But postulating that a pedophilic, incestuous, infanticidal old coot is actually a long lost lord based on the information I've seen isn't symbolism. More like a reach. Please continue with the symbolism!
  7. Qyburn is as yet unknown to King's Landing and will be for literally YEARS. Nobody knows of his existence, let alone his necromantic and vivisectionist experiments. No way Sandor could anticipate a reanimator would be an aide to the queen. Good points! I think, in Arya's case, she was consciously leaving him to die a long painful death "You don't deserve the gift of mercy" and subconsciously not really wanting to kill him. Remember her parting words to him, "You shouldn't have hit me with an axe. You should have saved my mother". Pretty babyish, right? Nothing about poor Mycah, who Arya realizes she can't even visualize anymore. Not a word about Sandor's (baseless) claim that he went to Sansa's room to rape her. Arya finds she can't kill him as he lays there, feverish and bleeding, just as she couldn't kill him in the cave of the brotherhood, or the times she tried to, but then he looked at her and she held back. There's a parallel with Ned's philosophy, which Arya as a girl was probably never told: that if you pass sentence on a man, it's up to you to look him in the eye and hear his last words, then do the execution yourself. If you can't, then maybe the man deserves to live. At the last moment, Arya was unable to kill Sandor Clegane. She'd killed others, both on her list and off. But for her, he was different.
  8. And Stephen R. Donaldson, apparently. ;-)
  9. Sandor's sword goes where Sandor wants it to go. And Sandor's strength is now a match for his older, huger brother. No wonder Gregor left the tourney, mad.
  10. Same here. The authors may have had Frank Herbert's outlines and historical details, but nothing like his writing ability. It's been decades since I read any of the Dune expanded series, but I recall the non-Frank Herbert novels seemed to suffer from the "One Great Person Invents Everything In the World, Then Nothing Changes For a Thousand Years" lazy writer syndrome.
  11. Sansa's empty words had little, if anything to do with Sandor "standing up" to Gregor. Sandor had been training hard in preparation for the tourney, knowing Gregor would be competing. He'd fought exceptionally well, making it into the top four, with the hopes of taking on Gregor - if that's not "standing up", I don't know what is. Plus, he laughingly told Sansa he might "need to kill his brother" on the morrow. So the confrontation had been anticipated, planned, and prepared for as soon as the date of the Hand's Tourney was announced. If Sandor didn't go face to face with Gregor in the joust, he could always take him in the melee. (Of course, by the melee, Gregor had gone.) Great observation! Sandor seemed enraged by what had happened, but he generally uses anger to cover for his other emotions. In this case, anger that such an undertrained, inexperienced, young boy was allowed to go up against a brutal, hardened behemoth, without so much as assistance in arming himself.
  12. In Game of Thrones, Sansa is 10 and Sandor 27, give or take a year. By the end of aDwD, Sansa is 14 or close to it, which would make Sandor (if alive, and we pretty much know he is) about 31. Which would make any "romantic" feelings on Sandor's part in the first book even less likely. You make a great point about Sandor tending to try and help the small and weak. Ned Stark had heard something about a Clegane sister, who apparently disappeared or at least was never heard from again: it seems highly likely that Gregor killed her and Sandor saw it, but since he was 12 or younger, was unable to save her. That, and himself, when he was small and weak, being victimized by Gregor, could cause a man to say "never again" to that sort of thing. Of course, the really bad men would tell themselves "Yeah! That's what we do!"H I hear ya on this one!!
  13. I agree! I'd also like to add that Sandor wasn't trying to show off as a "gallant" knight because he was "head over heels in love" with Sansa - the man is neither a pedophile nor a raper, and he's seen that she either runs or cries whenever she looks at him. It's more like to show her the contrast between her beloved perfect Knight of Flowers, the very soul of "gallantry" who absently threw her a rose, and who cheated to win by bollixing his opponent's horse, and a damned dog who was nonetheless brave and capable.
  14. This was a great analysis. Thanks!
  15. Nice idea! How about you start a new thread with this topic, as Lyanna suggests?