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  1. Aww! And George RR went to such trouble to include the gritty, often horrible realism of the Middle Ages! Bless you, FI. They probably ought to; many spent enough time in hell.
  2. Tysha very likely would NOT know in a fortnight or less whether she was pregnant. They didn't have those little stick things then, and typically, a woman's first clue would be missing a period. Re: Blondes. Lannister guards, retainers, etc would be more likely than most to be blonde - remember the "first night" rights of lords? They went on until relatively recently. Besides, Tyrion has weird black and blonde hair, not the "true" Lanniser gold. Who else is blonde? Brienne of Tarth. Ser Duncan the Tall (probably an ancestor). The Velaryions - all of 'em. Blonde hair alone does not prove paternity. And just because a named character isn't described as blonde, we shouldn't assume there are few to none!
  3. And a good thing Jon did, because Catelyn told Ned that she would not have Jon at Winterfell after Ned was gone. She wanted him out and gone, having tolerated Jon all those years. Ned was horrified by Cat's anger, but Cat was concerned that, as long as Jon existed, he posed a threat to HER children inheriting Winterfell. She was mollified by Jon wanting to take the black, and thus be permanently and officially out of the line of succession.
  4. Tyrion's daughter? Unlikely, as poor Tysha was raped by 30 or so other men. However, due to their marriage, one could CALL Lanna "Tyrion's daughter" and charge proportionally, even though her actual biological father could have been ... anyone.
  5. Well, we just see things differently. I'm not going to tell you you're wrong because you do make some reasonable points. I just don't agree with all of them!
  6. Well, I'm going to use this as a linchpin of my "agree to disagree". Daenerys undoubtedly used her experience as The Khaleesi to gain assertiveness and the ability to command, to become a dragon. If you think this was impossible on the grounds she was treated as property and abused, then I refer you to her chapters where she never once gives this impression. But - as you will! Well, it would be illegal, probably a felony (unless you're Judge Roy Moore, in which case it could be considered a Biblican imperative.) But remember - this is Iron Age Essos. A girl of 13 is "a woman grown", as a boy of 16 is "a man grown." We are certainly entitled to disapprove and consider it disgusting, but for the time and place, it was totally normal. That doesn't mean that "reasonably attractive" women don't actually do this at times. Remember, Jon is not unattractive, and he fails to kill her, per his orders. That says something for the boy's character. A knife to the throat is definitely a "meaningful interaction". Probably more meaningful than a cup of coffee. The "male fantasy" part comes in when boorish, unattractive males who don't keep up their appearances expect beautiful women to fall onto their laps. This only happens in comedy. Or on a retail basis.
  7. "Comforted" means radically different things to women than it does to men. No, Catelyn was very unlikely to be longing for a cock up her cooch. More like a warm hug and cuddling.
  8. I think this is a good catch! Much has been made about "SanSan" and I really, REALLY don't want to start it up again, as everything that could ever be said has been, repeatedly... but it seems to me that there's a lot less to Sansa's apparent obsession in comparing every man to The Hound than "true love." I'd go with Stockholm. It might even fit in with her tendency to edit her memories into more of a "romantic song" format with herself as the beautiful princess.
  9. Not in detail, although GoT has the end of a sex scene with Catelyn. I think we hear entirely too much about Tyrion's man parts. Although that's pretty much where his entire life has focused, so there's that. There never is. Seriously, have you never fallen for someone? I disagree with your assessment of Ygritte entirely. She illustrates how very different women of the free folk are from what Jon is accustomed to. Direct. Assertive. Knowing what she wants. And where was Jon "raped"? He was "wet and ready" as any young wife. I also disagree with the common assessment that Khal Drogo "raped" Daenerys on their wedding night and thereafter. George RR takes great pains to describe the drawn out, surprisingly gentle mutual disrobement they went through, the (literal) letting the hair down, the expert touches, to where Daenerys finds herself saying "Yes!" It described Drogo as gradually winning her trust and her consent - not "raping" her. And the nights thereafter as being painful - remember, Dany was (in this case literally) still "a young girl" and Drogo was, well, big as a horse. Stockholm Syndrome, my arse. If Dany was stockholmed, or battered-wifed, where would she have gotten the assertiveness and strength that she displayed to her brother, to Drogo himself, to his bloodriders? How would she have been able to step into command (dragons or not) after his death? You may be projecting too much 21st c as opposed to actually reading the text.
  10. I can't deny that there's a lot of blame to go around, and the perps certainly deserve much of it. On the other hand, both of them knew Robert Baratheon and his ways; it's not at all surprising that Lyanna would want to dodge that bullet, and Rhaegar might gallantly want to help her to do it. Motive is critical. And Rhaegar may not have been totally in the throes of lust/love; he may also have seen a tie-in to the prophesies he'd been writing his uncle Aemon about for so many years.
  11. Indeed! And looking ahead, I agree; Littlefinger seems to be slipping and we can hope it catches up with him... soon.
  12. Chataya. "Gender identity" has nothing to do with Arya's story. She's a girl, she knows she's a girl, she's offended when people mistake her for a boy - but smart enough to keep quiet when she needs to stay below the radar. That's an epithet used pretty much exclusively by the US nazi-wannabes. It's just one of those generic insults, having no real meaning.
  13. Indeed! Catelyn read the sign of the dead direwolf and stag correctly. But she also warned him of his responsibility; Ned really, really didn't want to do a Hand job for Robert (har) and have to leave Winterfell. Ned had another chance to get out of it when Bran fell; he could have claimed his family responsibilities had to take precedence. On the other "hand", if Ned had waited for Robert to eventually return from his hunt, which could have taken weeks, all that killing and devastation would have continued in the Riverlands. That wasn't Ned's way. And as we now know, Robert died shortly after his return from the hunt, anyway. Ordering Tyrion's release might have been a good idea, but Ned had no way to get a message to Catelyn. She was on the road, and nobody who wasn't with her knew where she was, or where she was going. Moreover, just and decent Ned might have assumed that an inquiry and trial would either clear or condemn Tyrion, and there was no reason not to let the wheels of justice turn. He had no idea that his sister in law was barking mad; even Catelyn was horrified to see what Lysa had degenerated into.
  14. Well, no he hasn't. Baelish has gone beyond any limits, other than what Tywin Lannister or his mad dogs would do. The only thing keeping Littlefinger alive is that nobody knows.
  15. Seriously? When did this happen? You might think someone would have noticed, it being 700 feet tall and something like 100 leagues long...
  16. Even if some kinslaying took place, I doubt that Tywin (Crimes Against Humanity) Lannister would have cared.
  17. Well, I wasn't talking "genetics" at all in distinguishing the physical appearances of nobles v serfs and peasants. I was talking about the effects of nutrition (peasants more likely to be undernourished), environment (medical care v bush witches), and physical training. You should not equate the Freefolk with the southron peasants. There's a totally different environment, physical and social, north of the Wall than either in the big city or on the lord's lands. Also, men trained for war will likely have better nutrition, etc. And when did I ever mention "ugliness"? Are you saying only the nobility can look good? When Bran thought Jaime looked more a King than Robert, he wasn't looking at noble pedigree; it was the fact that Jaime was strong and handsome, dressed in his shining armor. Robert was grossly fat, in shapeless robes. Getting back to the topic at hand, Mance's racial background really has little relevance. He's an average-looking guy.
  18. Good observation! And, if geneology is such a big deal, note that, as the offspring of a crow, half his genetics could literally come from anywhere in Westeros. Sure there is! Noble-born would be better nourished, probably taller as a result. They'd be generally well exercised, fitter, as opposed to being broken down by toil. They'd have better teeth, and more of them. Fewer deformities due to injuries, because there would always be a maester at hand to tend them. They would look young longer, too. Now, were a smallfolk get the upbringing of a noble born, I'd agree with you.
  19. Brown eyes are dominant. Any "First Man" pairing with anyone else could have produced brown eyes, and thereafter, that color would dominate in the succeeding generations. Mance was probably as much a "Heinz 57" as any non-noble Westerosi would be. And what is this obsession with genetic purity? Every time I see "First Men", my mind automatically maps to "Aryan". Seriously - it's been several thousand years since the Andals arrived. There's been reasonable mixing in that time.
  20. Why would you conclude this? The "crystal" is a prism. It separates light into seven (The Seven) different colors of the rainbow. The 7-color symbolism is used throughout the septs and worship services. The way the light diffracts into the seven colors is mentioned constantly. Every septon/septa wears one of the crystals. No room or need to bring up ice or snow. Actually, the Seven religion has all the hallmarks of a man-made made-up religion: a strict code of conduct, a collection of fables to illustrate this code, a set of "deities" who illustrate further the way the different roles in society should work.Then there's the hierarchy of the sept, resulting frequently and inevitably in politicking over religious instruction, and abuse of power, even at the lowest levels. The Old Gods, on the other hand, don't seem to have any of the above. They're just recognized sources of power, and whether they respond to "prayer" or not is anyone's guess at this point. R'hllor, another apparent god, seems to enable miracles and prophesy. Both seem fundamentally different from the 7.
  21. The Seven bless you for this! Now, let's discuss Sa ...
  22. Because of what they did and who they were when they "lived"? (recalling these are, in fact, fictional characters.) Valar morghulis - intellectually, we all know that even if a character makes it to the final page of the books intact, the normal human mortality rate is still 100%.
  23. That's 'arc', not 'arch.'
  24. No, thralls definitely don't get the vote. The moot consists of the captains. It seems as if the crew counts, however, at least in terms of who shouts the loudest. That would disadvantage Euron a little, given that his crew were all mutes. Theon had been a ship captain recently. That, and he would have been Balon Greyjoy's designated heir, by rules of Westeros.
  25. Actually, the voting by Ironborn captains is really a traditional way that democracy first gets started. Remember in old England, the lords were first empowered to vote and thus counterbalance the king; in the early US, only landed men (in practice, white) could vote. Every captain is basically the "king" or lord of his ship and crew, and a significant property owner. Then consider the parallels with traditional piracy. Pirate ships ran largely by democratic vote. The crew could and did vote on who would command, the missions to undertake, etc. Pirate ships even had women as crew, and not (merely) in the bedroom sense; ships were often what we now call "integrated" in terms of skin color as well. The Ironborn are nothing if not pirates. It's interesting that the kingsmoot is open to any candidate who wants to "run". Each makes his case by a dramatic speech, heavy on promises, and then delivers a bribe/swag to further convince the captain-voters of his seriousness and ability to deliver. That this tends to be stolen wealth is just the Iron Way in action, per Balon - the only stuff you're entitled to is what you steal, preferably at dirk point. A sordid and babyish philosophy, but there you have it.