HallowedMarcus

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  1. Are you saying that blue winter roses are not rare? As far as I know they are rare and do exist at the North. Also it is known that Lyanna Stark loved this kind of flowers. It is known as a Winter Rose. That usually exist where it is very cold and/or snow around. It is therefore a coincidence Prince Rhaegar gave to Lyanna her favorite flowers? I do not know if Lyanna was or not the Mysterious Tree Knight but I do know those winter Roses are found in very cold places, that Lyanna loved them and that the Prince gave it to her after he became the Tournament’s champion. Also that Ned Stark never told his children about the tale of the Knight of the Laughing Tree. Why not? Because of Reed, because of his sister? And yes it was a very meaningful act to give those roses to Lyanna Stark. It showed all that he was, at least, fond of her; which in itself is very meaningful because they knew that she was Robert’s fiancée.
  2. I do understand what you mean to say. Indeed the Targaryen had a lot of powers that could be considered to be part of an absolute monarchy but also they have a lot of parts that are considered of a feudal monarchy, like the vassal of the Great Houses answering and obeying more their Lord Paramount than the King and like not having a standing army depending on the Warden's men to have one. It seems that GRRM made a feudal system with a powerful central kingship. With pitiful child pretender you meant Jaehaerys who became Jaehaerys I the Conciliator? The rightful heir of the Seven Kingdoms, being the oldest male son of former King Aenys I, considering his oldest brother was killed in battle and the other tortured to death by Maegor? When a King dies his son becomes the Ruler not his brother. Are you talking about the “pretender” that rules more than 45 years? The one that ended the right of the first night that the Lords had? He set one law for the whole Kingdom because before each part (North, Storm Lands and so on) had its own laws? Who was considered by many as the best King Westeros ever had? A Scholar known as the Wise? The one who hose a commoner and Septon Barth as Hand of the King which is now considered by many as the best Hand who ever existed? Who made peace with the Faith and became its Protector? No, no, no. Of course not.
  3. I do disagree with you. Louis XIV, the called Sun King, had much more power compared to the Targaryens. He was an absolute Monarch. The Targaryens were not. Since the time of his father Louis XIII, Cardinal Richelieu removed the feudal Noble right to “defend”themselves.when he ordered almost all fortified castles razed, so the Nobles could not have defense against the Crown if they were to be invaded or arrested or in case of Rebellion. The Warden and his vassals have fortified Castles and Fortifications in ASoIaF.. Also the King in France had a powerful intern “army” in which the Nobles only participated if there was a foreign war were they were put in the chain of command, like the Prince Condé and other Dukes and Marquis had. In ASoIaF the King depends mostly of the Warden’s and the vassal of theirs to get an army. You see that when there was a rebellion or war the Ruler ordered their Wardens to call their banners and fight it. Also you said before that no Targaryen were ever removed/deposed by their vassals. Maegor the Cruel was not literarily deposed because he died/killed himself in the Iron Throne days before his inevitable removal! The Warden and vassal of his realm were so full of him and his tyranny that finally his Wardens of the Houses of Lannister, Tyrell, and Arryn came out against him and the Tully joined them. Do you know what happened when Maegor called “his” banners. They hated him so much that very few answered his all and he barely reached four thousand men. Again it shows they were closer to a medieval monarchy then an absolute one. He refused to take the Black, was surrounded, ”his” army defeated and obviously would had been removed and killed or send to the Night’s Watch. Why because the Targaryen did not have a permanent army, unless it was from bondage of marriage to other Great Houses or he was part of a Great House himself, so Robert Baratheon was also Lord Paramount of the Storm Lands and he and his vassals would fight for him, not because he was the King, but because they are vassals to the Lord Paramount. Also the Targaryen had Dragonstone and few vassals their and so on. A monarch permanent independent (from vassal) army is essential for an absolute monarchy and the King in Westeros did not have it. Joffrey based his power on his grandfathers and his Tyrell fiancée’s army and also the Baratheon who believed he was one of theirs. Also you said that France would not be a good feudal example of the Targaryens power in Westeros. I do disagree. It depends what timeframe you use. I give an example. Philip IV of France, called the Fair. He increased a lot the monarchy’s power in France. He arrested High Nobles, increased taxes on his vassal lords and burgs, expelled gentle and jews and took over their properties and gold, suppressed the Knights Templar and took their gold and lands and imposed a 50% income taxes on all Catholic Lands, removed the Pope from power and transferred the Curia Romana to Avignon and therefore controlled the Catholic Church in all his domains. There was no Magna Carta, there was no Parliament, the King had a lot of power and it was a still a feudal monarchy. Philip the fair ruled from 1285 to 1314. So as you see, the Targaryen are very much more related to a Feudal Monarchy a lá French Philp IV then to an absolute Monarchy a lá Louis XIV.
  4. Indeed there are a few mysteries there. I do admit it. People spoke about many important facts, like Marsh crying, Jon not being able to pull his sword after being stabbed only twice (once for real for the other was a cut) and so on. People have not talk about the letter already being opened though. They had already read it. Jon notes some kind os stain on the seal. So they already knew what had happened and then he told them what was in the letter and they had a small discussion about it. The fact that Ghost was already weary about them showed the direwolf felt they wanted to kill Jon. They had already planned it before Jon read the letter because they read it before him or the one who read it told them. They guest he would do something wrong from the Watch point of view, which he did when he asked people to join him against Ramsey Bolton.
  5. Welcome. Yes a lot of disbelieve and grudge will come from those two deaths (Kevan and Maester) Cersei will also suspect Dorne once she discovers Mace Tyrell and Lady Nym are lovers - by Ralphis Baratheon From where that comes from. Not the books.
  6. Yes, congratulations. I understood why the Spider had Kevan killed' he explained that himself. I had not understood, however, why he had the Archmaester killed. You are right it will make the Tyrells look even more guilty because he told to the Court before Cersei that he was giving Moon Tea to Margery. He won't be able to testify now and that will probably absolve her before the Faith's Judgment. The Spider is worse than Littlefinger man. Devious indeed. I do hope however that he manages or aids for the Fall of the Lannisters now in power.
  7. Evil they are considering they change the balance of life and death. After you die, you are dead, regardless where your soul is or goes. In GRRM's world probably there are souls considering the two younger Starks dreams of Ned's death and talking to him inside the crypt in their dreams. Also, Lord Beric was brought back to life by the Red Priest Throros many times. The Others kill humans and bring their bodies back with no free will; they are mindless "zombies" doing their master's bidding. To use a person as a mind slave for itself is evil, to kill them and bring them back with no free will completely mind slaves is worse. Now that said the Others themselves might have reasons and these reasons might be logical or reasonable but I seriously doubt it. On GoT book they surround the Knight and use a king of laughter when an other Other is fighting him. They have brains, use smearing words and relish on killing. Yes, they are evil. Even if they have a reason.
  8. If indeed Lyanna Stark was the Knight of the LT then you might be right and they probably set guards to follow her wherever she went to stop her from breaking any betrothal arrangements. Why you are right about the King's right to marry his own children, especially his first born and future King, However, I never heard that the King declared both the Starks and his son Rhaegar traitors. After he burnt Rickard Stark alive and had his son Brandon strangled himself, he declared the Starks and Baretheons traitors and demanded that Jon Arryn gave Ned and Robert away to him so they could be killed. He did not demand Robert, Edward and Rhaegar's heads! If the Mad King, in fact, thought Rhaegar plotted something with the Starks he would have declared his Crown Prince a traitor which he did not. Also, Prince Rhaegar became the head Commander of the Lords defending the Mad King's Kingdom against Robert Baratheon which makes no sense if the King saw him plotting with the Starks. The reason Prince Rhaegar did not go directly to King's Landing and never send ravens to the lords telling that Lyanna went with him willingly, that he did not kidnap her and that they married (if they did - not known yet) is because he would have lost Dorne. If the Mad King saw Rhaegar plotting with the Starks he would never, ever have allowed his first born to become the Head Commander of his defenses against Robert's Rebellion. Also, history and rightful things are written and done by the victors and the one holding the power. Had Prince Rhaegar defeated Robert at the Trident then he would have come back to King's Landing with a big army and would have done one of two things. 1) Demanded that the Mad KIng legitimized Lyanna as his second wife in court to all to see and also by writtings and then taken both his wives and his children to Dragonstone by threatening the Mad King with deposal if he refused. 2) If the King, even so, refused, deposed him, which would be easy considering the Lords already knew the King's madness; legitimized Lyanna himself; if Ned still alive pardoned him and made him Warden of the North and called for a Great Council to legitimize his father deposal. Anyway I never read in the books that the Mad King declared his first born a traitor.
  9. Excellent analytic parallel thinking. Congratulations. Indeed it would make another Aegon coming after the VI the VII who would be Mr. Jon the Snowy Bastard of Winterfell, the Great (Targ + Stark) Bastard of Westeros Aegon VII. Cool indeed. I do hope you are right.
  10. Exactly. Prince Rhaegar is mistaken about some things and right about the three heads. He "knows" about the 3 heads and believes them to be his 3 children. So one more is needed. The third would be Jon, but because Rhaenys is de fact dead, the gods have chosen Daenerys as the third. She is the mother of Dragons. For example, Melisandre (Red Priestess) saw a young lady arriving with a horse at the Watch and she told Jon that it was her sister. The vision was indeed true a girl did arrived at Castle Black but it was Alys Karstark. She was wrong about the person arriving but the vision showed her indeed the future. When Melisandre tells Jon about the knives stabbing him she saw the truth. The same way Prince Rhaegar was right about the three (3) heads. Indeed 3 people but he is wrong about all of them being his children. 2 are and 1 (Daenerys) is not.
  11. They don't hate the Targaryen considering that the called BlackFyres are Targaryens. Daemon Waters was legitimized by King Aegon IV and receives from him the BlackFyre Sword. He was legitimized and so he and his descendants have rights for the Iron Throne. The Golden Company always thought for them; true. But after five generations, the Blackfyre Pretenders had all been killed. The Targaryens called BlackFyre are no more. Yes, it is true, the Golden Company would not change "sides" if they (BlackFyes) were still alive, but they are gone. So by staying behind the real Aegon they can achieve what they never, ever did: Victory!
  12. Your point of view is based on facts and are very logical. I congratulate you. And you might be right and Aegon be indeed a Fake. I however disagree and still believe he is a true Targaryen for two strong and simple reasons. 1) Why would Varys lie to a person (Kevan Lannister) at his mercy that he could/would and did kill in a few seconds later? Varys knew Kevan would die. Lie? What is the reason for that? What is the advantage he receives with that? None. Kevan was now bantha fodder. 2) In the book A Dance with Dragons we can read Lord Jon Connington own thoughts about Aegon being the real son of Prince Rhaegar. As you see even if the Spider is lying to both Aegon and Jon Connington to use them to do his bidding what is the logical reason to lie to Kevan Lannister? Tell him the truth and then kill him and I believe Varys just did that.
  13. Is that a joke? Many Lords and Knights lost castles and lands because they supported the BackFyre's claim. They went east and formed the Golden Company. They defended the BackFyre's rebellion many times and many Lords in Westeros supported them and had their land seized too. Many of them now are descendants from that lot. They want to get their family's land and titles back and also new ones from the ones who fight against them and lose. Considering they always lost supporting a "fake" Targaryen (BlackFyre), now they support a real one with a Lord who was a Hand to the real late King, to wit, Lord Jon Connington and expecting that another real Targaryen (Daenerys) with Dragons comes to their aid and even marries Aegon. The Golden Company knows they never, ever had such a chance to finally win.
  14. He cares because he wants stability. Book Varys tells Kevan that was undoing a lot of stupid decisions that Cersey did and putting the Faith that almost destroyed the Lannister's reputation to uphold King Tommen and so he wanted him out of the picture; he also tells Kevan that Tommen believes all have to obey him because he is King but Aegon washed his own clothes, walk among commons and low lordlings. Knew the hardship of lives and would try to govern in the best way he could. You see he does care to a certain degree about the common folk and about stability and about the Aegon boy. He had Kevan Lannister as his mercy and the Spider could kill him anytime he wanted, which he did. So Varys told him what he really believes. There was no reason to lie to a person who is going to be killed a few seconds later.
  15. Why everyone presumes he is a fake Aegon, that he is a Backfyre. He is Aegon Targaryen. The baby was switch days before the Mountain got there. The Spider had that arranged. We even have Lord Connington own thoughts about Aegon being the real one in "A Dance with Dragons" book. Remember Daenerys when he saw a vision in the about her older Brother Crown Prince Rhaegar saying there needed to be 3. The Dragon has 3 heads. Daenerys, Jon and him.