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  1. 2 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

    The absurd time trial really throws a spanner in the works. I think nobody will want to go too deep on Thursday or Friday to avoid blowing up on the climb. So I expect it to be less interesting racing than the stages deserve. 

    then again Giau foliwed by tre cime could blow anything up even if nobody wants to really push it. 

    It is the reverse.

    with the exception of roglic (if he indeed doesn't have the legs) nobody wants to risk it all in a itt that nobody knows who is stronger.

    Dunbar and caruso need to gain time against each other. Thomas doesn't want to go to the last stage with only 18 secs. Almeida probably will only attack if he is sure he won't lose much time if things go wrong. Roglic will probably try to be creative on thursday if he is in bad shape and wants to win the giro (the stage on friday is for those who are in really good shape).

  2. 2 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

    It's not over after 1 stage but that was pretty emphatic. TGH did a very good TT for him, and probably happiest of the other contenders. 

    after remco the happiest of the other contenders is almeida.

    TGH has a tough battle ahead of him against thomas for the leader position. If the team choses thomas he will lose lots of time during the giro...

  3. 15 minutes ago, BlackLightning said:

    If you have doubts about Daenerys' control over western Essos (which is fair), then I have extreme doubts about Sansa marrying Aegon.

    So you can be happy to know that I have extreme doubts about sansa marrying aegon and danny controling western essos.

    16 minutes ago, BlackLightning said:

    Braavos and Eastwatch are not close. The maps show that Braavos is close to the Vale

    Yes, Dany would need to control an important port on the east coast and have a military base therein. King's Landing will be held by her enemies and Dragonstone is an island. That leaves Duskendale, Gulltown, Saltpans, White Harbor and Sunspear. Duskendale is unlikely to happen for narrative reasons. Gulltown would be good choice if the roads out of the Vale weren't all closed due to winter. Saltpans isn't big enough and White Harbor is impractical on multiple levels. That leaves Sunspear as the only really viable port. And yes, it's very far south but it is a large port city that is easily defensible with a large river basin to beach ships. Also, Dorne might be the only place in Westeros where you can still grow food in winter.

    I may be wrong but don't the people in the book describe it as a short voyage?

    And sunspear is probably on of the worse places for her to land. Given arianne's possible "friendship" with aegon and their familly ties if danny invades sunspear and takes control over it then her first act on westeros is to start a war with aegon anf the martells.

    It is more likely that she will land in the north. And there are several good reason for her to do so. First, because she will think that it is still under the control of the boltons and therefore she could gain goodwill if she helps the north get rid of them. Second, because she can bring food to the north during winter and that would gain her automatic support. Third, if she wants to amend her familly's mistakes and prove she isn't aerys or rhaegar then making peace with the north is a great first step. Fourth, it is a good place to set a base of operations because no army will march north of the neck during winter so her people will be safe there.

    So it is either the north for a eastern port or casterly rock for the simbolism. Most of the other places don't make much sense for 1 reason or another.

  4. 17 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    You're right, Mr. Benioff. Jon and Dany had no chemistry. At any point.

    lots of people disagree.

    17 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    Liam Cunningham refused to hit on Missandei. He said it would make Davos look like a perv creeping on a much younger woman.

    creepy that anyone would want davos hitting on missandei, 

    18 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    Jacob Anderson confirms that Grey Worm still has the pillar, just not the stones

    how the hell is he suposed to know this? and isn't the gelding process for the unsullied discribed in the books?

    19 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    After having his scenes in S6 cut back, Pilou wanted to reconceptualize Euron. It was his idea to turn him into a rock star pirate.

    LOL. I don't even know what to say.

    20 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    They weren't sure how the Wall was going to come down, and decided on a dragon since they didn't want to introduce "new deus ex machina pieces." I'm not sure what that means for the books, but it might indicate that the Horn of Joramun is legit.

    I think this shows how disconected they were from grrm until season 8. If they were suposed to use the horn they just had to have the NK take it and have tormund on top of the wall say something like this:

    "the fucker. He had it all along. RRUUUUUNNN" 

    And then have some ask him what was that horn and have him explain...

  5. 20 minutes ago, The Bard of Banefort said:

    I was originally going to post the next two chapters together, but it's easier to just do them separately. Here's Chapter 25:

    • D&D originally wanted to adapt the end of GOT in movie format, but this was shut down by HBO, who said their subscribers would feel ripped off.
    • Hibberd points out that D&D always planned on seven seasons, and I have to agree. For all the talks that they just wanted to move on to other things, I remember reading this back before they even surpassed the books.
    • HBO desperately wanted GOT to go on longer, but D&D refused, and the network wasn't willing to risk bringing in new showrunners. D&D had several reasons for wanting to end the show where they did: cast members were getting scooped up by other studios and wanted to move on to other roles (it's ironic that most of the S8 cast hasn't hit it big, but none of them could have known that at the time); some of the cast had health problems and injuries they were nursing, such as Emilia's brain aneurysms (Hibberd doesn't mention any of the casts' mental health/substance abuse issues, but I have to wonder if that was a concern as well); an obsession with Breaking Bad and trying to emulate it; and a fear that they would damage the show's reputation if it went on for too long. 
    • One reason why HBO agreed to eight seasons was because of their reputation for allowing creators to maintain a certain level of independence. I wonder if that's starting to change now; not just because of GOT, but also Sam Levinson's alleged lunacy, and all the GOT spin-offs. Like it or not, by launching a GOT Cinematic Universe, HBO is now less like Showtime and more like Disney+.

    The movie format should be obvious to anyone that it is a bad idea. Got episodes lasted an hour. You can't add 30 mins to a normal ep and call it a movie. At most they could do something to the last kingdom where a 2 to 3 hours movie would replace the last ep.

    Given that the Ds were adapting 1 book per season it is normal for them to plan 7 seasons. That doesn't really mean anything. Even saying that actors were scooped is kind of stupid. Given the filming time and number of eps of each season I doubt that filming GoT took a lot of time for the actors. They could clearly film GoT and another project. And I would risk that several actors had important roles is movies while shooting GoT.

    And I think that when HBO stops giving independence to the creators it will lose some of its spark. You can't create controversial things if there is a guy from the network breathing down your neck making sure your series follow some kind of guidelines. The problem with the Ds is that they are charlatans. They were able to gain power, trust and influence with the earlier seasons so they had a lot of credibility to do whatever they wanted towards the latter seasons despite not having the talent to write or direct a show as big as Got. I bet there must be a lot of stories how HBO aproved the script for season 8. Any person related to the industry had to know there were a lot of red flags there.

  6. 1 hour ago, Daeron the Daring said:

    Even if we were to ignore (the more important) half of the story (the Others), foreign armies won't make anyone angry 

    I wrote a reply earlier, but to make this clear: Dothraki? Bad. Superbad. Deserve to be eradicated style bad.

    But I want to ask you: if you were a commoner riverlander, which one would you choose? The men of your village (maybe you too, not assuming a gender here) be conscripted into a war of someone else's benefit, or have professional armies do it in your stead (with the addition of dragons).

    Have people like Amory Lorch and Gregor Clegane raze the countryside for supplies, or a well-mannered, organized, professional army do it, who are told to behave, and who do not fall into cruelty for the sake of it? George may or may not 'magically' (unrealistically, I mean) provide supplies to Daenerys' host, but I'm sure as hell the realistic way to do it would be collecting it from where it can be.

    I don't think you are taking into account how bad the reputation of danny's troops is.

    If I was a riverlander (and given all the chaos the war of the 5 kings brought to the region this is the worst region you could chose) I would volunteer into several wars if it would keep dothriaki, iron born, r'hllor zealots that like to burn people/simbols of the 7 and sellswords (because of all the death sellswords did in the region) as far away from me and my familly as possible.

    1 hour ago, Daeron the Daring said:

    Altough we see that Jon intends to supply the Watch from Essos, with Iron Bank funds, I'm not sure Daenerys is set up to partially or fully rely on this. I would say partially, the very least.

    And thousands don't add up to the food shortage. Hundreds of thousands died already, some regions of Westeros were heavily exploited, but the food must be somewhere, even with additional waste, the last harvest didn't suffer that greatly. If it's not enough, then it's not enough. And if it's not enough, then it won't be because of the Others and the winter. And guess what, determined manpower is crucial to defeating the Others, altough I personally think the resolution won't come from a battle fought on a field.

    Here you are forgetting the geography. you can only use essos as a food supply if you have a connection to the east coast. And in winter even that will be difficult. Jon has the advantage that braavos and eastwatch are close. So at least it is a feasable situation. Danny would need to control an important port on the east coast and keep her troops around it in order for the essos option to be viable.

  7. 4 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said:

    I really don’t think people at Winterfell have the foggiest about the PL, and I’m including Roose here.

    in the letter ramsay says he has mance in a cage for all the north to see.

    He has to have told the people in winterfell something about the man they are seeing in a cage covered in the skins of several women.

    And if he intends to march to CB he has to have told them why. 

    I am not saying that ramsay told the people there exactly what he wrote, but he must have told them that the dude in a cage was mance, that he kidnaped (?) farya with theon's help under jon's orders (?) and therefore he is going to attack CB to get his bride back?

    And given that everybody knows mance was burned by stannis (in the PL we are told this is common knowledge) and that theon has betrayed the starks several times and even killed bran and rickon ramsay's whole story sounds crazy.

    right?

  8. 1 minute ago, kissdbyfire said:

    Oh fuck off w/ these ridiculous statements. :rolleyes:
    Jon a liar and someone who breaks his word, like when Dany agreed to sell Drogon then killed the guy she’d made the deal with? 
    Yeah, it’s a dumb af argument b/c slavers are nasty arseholes who deserved what they got, just as the Boltons will when they get what they deserve. 

    I would actually like a pov in winterfell to know what the people there think about ramsay's statements in the PL.

    Do people believe abel is mance rider or that ramsay is lying? Because for the people in winterfell his story must sound insane.

    Even theon helping farya escape after everything he has done must sound insane. 

    Him wanting to march to CB must sound insane.

     

  9. 4 hours ago, csuszka1948 said:

    It's not bittersweet, it's evil.

    What kind of asshole King would Bran skinchange into who doesn't help to fight against the Others? Aegon? Dany? Both of them would be probably willing to help I imagine.

    Also, I don't think that's the utilitarian message that the story wants to impart, that would mean that Bran is no different from Bloodraven.

    However, what makes it truly evil is STAYING in his body after the Long Night ends.

    It is bittersweet because he would do it out of necessity and to do something good with the body but at the same time he is doing something awfull and ends up not being able to let go of a new body capable of walking, be a knight and everything he ever wanted. And bran has proved he is a little asshole with warging into hodor when he thinks he has to do it. Can you really say he wouldn t take over the body of someone evil if he was tempted enough?

    And I think this is in line with asoiaf. That people are capable of good and bad. There are no saints.

    4 hours ago, csuszka1948 said:

    No, it's not wishful thinking, it's looking at the story of Bran, Arya and Sansa as 3 parallel hero's journeys. 

    Sansa staying at the Vale doesn't make for an engaging story and doesn't give an opportunity for her character to evolve. 

    Also, if that was Sansa's story, why wasn't it implemented in the show? They could have avoided the backlash that came with the Ramsay-Sansa pairing.

    I think it is much more likely that Sansa will be (f?)Aegon's Queen, who brings Cersei down.

    You are wishing for the 3 characters to have parallel hero journeys...

    And sansa staying in the vale is the best thing that can happen to her. She can grow into a player of the game. Learn to gain power, to gain allies, to understand LF and learn how to beat him. And it is funny that you are complaining, but sansa learning from LF so that she can backstab him at some point and use the vale to help the north is exactly the type of journey you want for her.

    In regards to the show, I think it is rather easy to understand. The Ds didn't want to spend money/time developing the vale so they turned into an afterthought and forced sansa into the storyline of the north (and it makes sense that when she learns of jon trying to unite the north she will try to help). As a reader of the books you know that in order for the knights of the vale to participate in the story we need a pov in the vale and that is sansa. 

    45 minutes ago, Nevets said:

    Sansa in charge of the Vale?  Sorry, but no.  The Vale holds no meaning for her.  It's a refuge, and not much more.  One part of her story is discovering who she is.  And who she is is a Stark.  Her story is of the North.

    She has familly in the vale. She has her father's friends in the vale. The old gods mean something in the vale but they also care about southern costums like tourneys and knights. The vale is the region that best represents sansa. A mixture of north and south.

    Sansa wouldn't fare well in this north where the most civilized northmen are making frey pies, wildlings are marrying karstarks, cannibal skagosi might be joining the fray, cragnonmen and some iron born might also be more proeminent. And I am not even talking about how everyone is just more wild and angry given all they have sufered. 

    Of the 2 stark girls arya is the one that would fit better in the north now

  10. 25 minutes ago, SeanF said:

    The ending of the show proved that evil won. The difficulty is that Benioff and Weiss seemed to think that evil is good. 

    We learned, through Tyrion, that fighting slavery and rape is a terrible thing.  Presumably, the morally correct attitude is to just “spread ‘em and take it” , as witnessed by the priority of the new regime being to create new brothels, staffed by desperate peasants.

    The North was ruled by Cersei 2.0.  The South was ruled by a creepy teenager, who manipulated people and events to his advantage.

    Of the two idealists among the main characters, one finished up dead, the other a disgraced exile.

    Maybe that’s Marin’s intended End.  But, it would be a dismal one.

    I want to agree with you, but I don't think the Ds understood the mensage they were sending with their ending. I think they actually thought that it was a happy ending with a stark on the IT, sansa as queen after having sufered so much, arya the sailor (never going to understand why they didn't say she was going to explore essos) and jon with his friends (whoever they may be besides tormund)...

    Even if you ignore the story (and you should never do that) we are talking about people that ended GoT without having good battle scenes in the last season. Like, why didn't someone kill vyserion doing something insane? why didn't we have some awesome fight between several characters and several ww? why didn't we have several characters gang up on the mountain to kill him in a travesty of the toj scene ith arthur? why, plese wHY DID A DEAD GIANT GRAB LYANNA AND BROUGHT HER TO 30CM FROM HIS EYE? why did the dothriaki ride to their doom in the first 30 secs of the battle? And I could go on.

    Both the story and the execution were too bad to try to understand grrm intentions based on the last season. And we just have to compare it with the battle of the bastards that had a ridiculous story that made no sense but as it had several cool scenes people liked it. For some reason they couldn't even mantain this standar in season 8.

  11. 2 minutes ago, csuszka1948 said:

    That's exactly what Doran Martell has done after Elia and her children were brutally murdered. Was it a bad decision? I don't think so - it was a difficult choice but the right one. 

    you are judging this decision using wrong parameters.

    If dorne had the force to make tywin pay for what he did obviously doran's decision would be wrong. The idea that no matter what tyrants do the important thing is to have peace is dumb and it is how monsters get the power to do what they want. 

    war is bad and hurts a lot of people, but it is a price to pay in order to achieve your objectives. If your cause is worthy enough then you should go to war no matter the price.

    7 minutes ago, csuszka1948 said:

    That's what he would have done if it wasn't his sister married to Ramsay (about whose nature he didn't actually know much before the Pink Letter!) and it wasn't his family that was displaced. 

    I think there were quite a few members of the Night's Watch who faced a similar situation in the past.

    Alys was facing a simillar situation and jon found ways that his vows let him help her. Simply because it was the right thing to do...

    10 minutes ago, csuszka1948 said:

    The fact that GRRM decided to introduce Young Griff and is planning a Second Dance of Dragons should be a forewarning that he is not planning to write an story of great social progress in Westeros though. Dany would be the perfect person to spearhead such a movement but she won't do it in Westeros, because she doesn't have a large base of support there.

    Book danny isn't show danny. In the books she doesn't want to break the wheel, reinvent the wheel or even think about wheels. This isn't a story about socialism or democracy or women's rights. Danny likes to be a targ, to be the rightful queen and expects obedience from her lords wether they like or not. She does not want to go to westeros and hold a grand council where a bunch of nobles will decide if they should follow her or some usurper.

    And we just have to look at the IB kingsmoot to see how that isn't really the best election sistem there is. 

     

  12. 12 minutes ago, sifth said:

    Why would Faegon not fight The Others? He seems like a decent enough person and not a nut job like Cersei.

    they want independence so he refuses to send troops to die fighting for rebels?

    feels threatned by jon claiming to also be rhaegar's son so doesn't want to help him?

    the southern lords don't believe in the others and therefore convince him to not send troops?

    there are ways to make it work.

  13. 5 hours ago, sifth said:

    Our future king, because what the realm needs is a story teller, lol

    If GRRM can make Bran the Broken becoming king work, I'll take back everything I said about his writing of the last two books.

    faegon takes cersei role in the show. So he decides to let the north fight the ww alone. Bran decides to skinchange into faegon so that he can give the right orders and ends up deciding to live as faegon instead of as bran stark.

     

  14. 1 minute ago, csuszka1948 said:

    I fundamentally disagree. That's not a bittersweet ending.

    The point of the 'Hold the Door' event is to make Bran realise that possessing other people's bodies and taking away their autonomy is morally wrong.

    No. The " hold the door" is used to show the dangers and cruelty of bran's powers. There is no moral lesson to take from the event. 

    And is there a more bittersweet ending than the king being an asshole refusing to help and bran skinchanging into him so that he could give the orders needed to defeat the others but deciding not to tell anyone (not even his familly) because what he did was terrible? THIS is the best and most belivable way bran can sit the IT. 

    8 minutes ago, csuszka1948 said:

    What kind of claim does Sansa have to the Vale? What will she do in ATWOW and ADOS, stay in the Vale and marry Harry, go to the North to fight the Others then go back?

    I would be very surprised if LF's plan worked out as planned. The arcs of the 3 Stark kids (Bran, Arya, Sansa) parallel each other and they are all going to reject the destinies their 'mentor figures' (BR, Faceless Man, LF) set out for them.

    You literally said what her claim to the vale was... She just has to marry harry or robyn and if her husband dies she is the ruler of the vale. It is simple and fits well with what happened in the show.

    The rest is your wishful thinking. And even ruling the vale and turning it to assit the north in the coming war is probably against LF wishes.

    14 minutes ago, csuszka1948 said:

    The Others will probably not be fully defeated, but once spring comes, they will likely retreat to the Lands of Always Winter.

    The wildlings stayed North of the Wall because they refused to kneel. This is going to remain the problem with some of them at the end of the series, and I think Jon (who knows them well) will play a part in the solution. 'King Beyond the Wall' is just my guess.

    The whole north/wall/wildling situation remaining the same as it was in the beguining of the series is one of the most stupid things in the series and obviously doesn't work.

    First, if the others aren't fully defeated then what was the point of the story? just to repeat the past? Even in the show the others are completly dead. And the idea that after the long night ANYONE would want to be neighbours with the others makes no sense. Nobody knows when they would attack again...

    Second, jon has only started integrating the wildlings into the north and some of them have already joined the nw, setled in the gift and married into a great house. In the future they will be even more conected to the north. Their bulk isn't going anywhere.

    Third, most of the surviving wildlings will be war refugees (non fighters) and everything in their land will be dead, destroyed and frozen. Even if they wanted to go back they don't have the means to survive in their land. In order for the wildlings to survive they will need support and a northern leader that they respect and understands them so that he can make a truce with them that allows them to be free but follow some rules.

    Fourth, what will be the diference between the north and the true north? the wall, gift and karstark lands and probably more will be filled with wildlings. that is most of the northern part of the north. Does anyone think these wildlings will fight against other wildlings because the kneelers say so? That the north won't claim the lands north of the wall? 

    fith, the ideia that we spent several books to unite all the people against the dead so that after the war we go back to how everything was is ridiculous. And the wildlings follow a king into a crises. Anyone believing that the most wild freefolk that are too wild to accept any kind of rules like the rest of their people would follow jon doesn't make sense. jon has no chance to lead people like the weeper in times of peace. 

     

  15. 2 hours ago, csuszka1948 said:

    There are a few things than can be said with great likelihood:

    - Bran the Broken will be King of Westeros and 'his story' will play a part in his election

    - the endings of the other 5 main characters in broad strokes: Tyrion Hand of the King, Sansa ruling the North (if I have to guess Lady of Winterfell), Jon leaving with the wildlings (if I have to guess King Beyond the Wall) and Arya leaving to explore the world, Dany will be remembered as a tyrant in Westeros and killed by someone she trusts (if I have to guess Jorah)

    - Jaime will die with Cersei (if I have to guess strangling her then killing himself, Tyrion will blame himself and realize that's not what he wanted just like in his dream) and probably won't get full redemption

    - the Others were created as weapons by the Children of the Forest. The showrunners tend to simplify things, they wouldn't have made up a detail like this which makes the world more complicated. It is also in line with George's anti-war narrative. 

    - the Long Night won't be ended by Dany or Jon. If GRRM told them they will play the central role, the showrunners would have adapted it. If I have to guess, Bran will be the most important and his only contribution in the show (saying a 'thank you' to Theon) will be relevant.

     

    The showrunners obviously had their own preferences (a strong bias towards the Lannisters, making Ramsay into a huge villain, preferring Arya over Sansa, disliking Stannis etc.), portrayed politics poorly, couldn't really write good dialogues on their own and didn't try keeping the central themes of the story (except perhaps in the last season).

    However, I think a common mistake is to assume that the ending of ASOIAF will be less subversive than the show, that D&D intentionally chose to go against both the plans of GRRM and the audiance's expectations and had Dany to die as a tyrant, Jon not become King, Arya not stay in WF or Jaime not getting a full-blown redemptive arcs just because they are edgelords. 

    I have huge doubts about a lot of the things you say.

    - I agree that some years ago grrm wanted bran to sit on the it and arya to go explore the world. However the plotwist is that bran will take over the body of who was suposed to be king and nobody will know it.

    -It is much more likely that sansa will be lady of the vale and control that region than the north. She is gaining power in the vale, it is a region where she fits perfectly (has several northern and southern elements like her) and it makes sense that she will end up marrying the ruler of the vale.

    -It makes no sense for the wildlings to return north of the wall. First, because either the others are defeated and the wall makes no sense or they aren't totally defeated and nobody would go live near them. Second, because they are being given lands on the gift and several of them want to live south of the wall where there are better living conditions. Third, because the north will need people and after the war the wildlings will have formed attachments. And finally, because it was wrong to have the wildlings live in misery north of the wall since the beguining. So after all the war people will have to do better and try some lasting peace.

    -So I believe jon will end up living with the wildlings,  the northmen,  iron born, skagosi and other war veterans/refugees in the north and that it will be very diferent land that it was in the beguining of the story. I could even see it separated from the rest of the kingdoms because they will be just too diferent from everybody else.

    - I doubt tyrion will be hand. There simply wasn't anybody else around to do it in the show and they liked tyrion. However he will end up in a position of power. Most likely a lord.

    -jaime may not have a redemption arc, but if he was going to kill cersei it would have happened in the show. They wouldn't waste such a moment.

    - the showrunners had no idea how to write a battle. I can garantee you that several characters will be fundamental in defeating the others. That maybe who gives the final blow wont be that important because it will only be possible thanks to the action of several characters. Like imagine there is a NK and jon cuts his arms, arya his legs, the hound kicks him and he flys into a bakery and hot pie takes the oportunity and kills the dude. Is hot pie our unsung hero?

     

     

  16. 26 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

    He's a human monster. Hardcore psychopath, but not necessarily sadistic. Like in There Will Be Blood.

    Even psycopaths care somewhat about their kids/familly. But that passage doesn't only show how wrong roose is. It is completly ilogical that he doesn't care about ramsay being his only heir. what if something happens to ramsay? Great houses care about having several heirs in case someone dies. 

    And roose suspecting/knowing that ramsay killed his trueborn and not doing anything is wtf! It could make sense if he didn't plan to hurt ramsay until he had a spare heir. But roose actually aproves ramsay's actions and is ok with him inheriting his position.

    You can't call roose human. There is no way! 

  17. Just now, sweetsunray said:

    Guy likes leeches :dunno: Bolt-on is a fan theory, and one I never susbscribed to

    I suspect anyone who likes leeches too much can't be a healthy person and roose doesn't seem to have any problem. But what completly sells me the bolt-on theory or a version of it is this.

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    The question frightened him. Once he had heard Skinner say that the Bastard had killed his trueborn brother, but he had never dared to believe it. He could be wrong. Brothers die sometimes, it does not mean that they were killed. My brothers died, and I never killed them. "My lord has a new wife to give him sons."
    "And won't my bastard love that? Lady Walda is a Frey, and she has a fertile feel to her. I have become oddly fond of my fat little wife. The two before her never made a sound in bed, but this one squeals and shudders. I find that quite endearing. If she pops out sons the way she pops in tarts, the Dreadfort will soon be overrun with Boltons. Ramsay will kill them all, of course. That's for the best. I will not live long enough to see new sons to manhood, and boy lords are the bane of any House. Walda will grieve to see them die, though."

    No human person can think like this. It is impossible that any father is happy that one of his sons will kill his other infant sons. And if you also take into account that roose probably knows that ramsay killed his first son who he raised since he was a baby contrary to ramsay and he still does nothing then roose can't be human. There is no way to explain roose's behaviour besides him being some kind of monster.

    12 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

    As many as the smallfolk claim Sansa flew away as a wolf from KL. These hundreds of theories existed prior to Varamyr's prologue.

    But the prologue shows that even normal skinchangers can control people. So who knows what special ones like bran or bloodraven can do?

    14 minutes ago, sweetsunray said:

    He's been drinking Shade for a while now ;)

    what is that suposed to mean lol?

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