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  1. Will we ever get an adaptation that not only does the series justice but it polishes the rough edges ? If yes, how would you do it ? What would you cut/add ?
  2. The problem with writing these super smart characters are the hundreds,thousands of people who will put them under a microscope. Even a bigger problem with someone like Kellhus, where the shortest path is actually his whole philosophy. The child thing for example. It doesn't make sense. The only explanation would be is that love is needed for healthy children. However his father never had that and was able to have a child. So Kellhus should try and make as many children as he can properly manage/train, at least a few dozen, if not more (relative healthy ones, or at least useful). Another advantage to this would be the fact that they would train each other and keep an eye on each other. In my view at least, that is the shortest path. With Esmenet that problem is that Bakker is too vague. A few sentences here and there and we would understand. Maybe that's the point, Kellhus doesn't get it so we won't either ?? Anyway, It is really hard to know if it's something profound or if it's something Bakker never thought of...the AMA showed us that.
  3. Didn't really like how Esmenet was handled. So I came up with my own theory (don't know if this was mentioned before). Basically, what if Esmenet was part of the shortest path? What if Kellhus needed her for support? This would make Kellhus even more evil and even more Dûnyain The new version: Kellhus leaves Ishual. He goes nuts. At that moment he realizes that even if he is super duper smart (one of the best of the order) he has not reached the absolute. This casts a shadow of doubt about his actions. He manipulates serwe without understanding that he is also being deceived. The circumfix happens and Kellhus is humbled for the first time. Sure, when he left he was still young and seeing the chaos in the world was overwhelming, sure he made a mistake but he vowed to never make it again. but now he has no excuse, he broke when he shouldn't have. He understands his limits and doesn't bullshit himself any more. He will do his best, he will try, however the invincibility of the Dûnyain is shattered. Their powers are not enough. There is a scene when he talks to Esmenet on the wall, and she almost falls. His heart skips a beat and he becomes worried. Then he says something like "whence does this darkness come" ? now here is the crucial point! He is not curious about this, he is musing about it. He has accepted that he has a weakness so he's kinda saying "well how the heck did that happen?!" . Even before he probably made the decision to include Esmenet in the thousandfold thought. She becomes his "darkness", her role is to satisfy his only weakness, a need for affection ? love ? companionship ? I don't think even he knows (hence darkness). When shit hits the fan on the last march he realizes that the ordeal might break apart. He goes for Esmenet because he has the time, and because she is needed for the last battle. He needs her support. Because the stakes are so high his "vestigial" emotions are amplified, even if they are very, very small. Even a 1% increase in the chance of him keeping his cool is worth it. That is why he doesn't harm Kelmomas even if he should. That would break Esmenet even more, and the doesn't have the time to manage her. All this time Esmenet was cultivated, not for her women but for her support. This would explain him not having more children ( which is nonsensical). As an emperor and with his insane stamina he could have sex with 3 woman each day. Heck, as a Dûnyain there's no need to hide, he could easily justify it or just don't care. Also, why make children if they are too young? doesn't make sense. He kept trying with Esmenet for her own well being, he wanted healthy children that she can love for his own sake. The bigger children, sure, that makes sense because they can be used for the ordeal, but why the younger ones? Does this make any sense ? Kinda did when I wrote it. Anyway, it makes him seem a lot more true to this training, and reinforces the "there is only mission" view his kind holds.
  4. I think the biggest problem of the series is uncertainty. I always viewed Bakker's book as onions. Each book has a "core" that's really amazing, some of the best SFF out there, ideas, moments, battles, characters and so on. There's also a lot of (potentially) rotten stuff. Problem was, every book was a promise. Things I didn't like, things that didn't make sense will all be explained in the end! From the small annoyances to the big plot events. With this mentality a lot of readers gave Bakker a lot of room to maneuver, we trusted him. Truth is, TUC could have never lived up to the hype, bakker promised too much. The cardinal sin of TUC and Bakker was his annoying style of writing. He made the mistake of switching interpretation and writing. It's much better to have crystal clear writing with multiple interpretations than confusing writing with clear events. I just didn't get what happened, even if it was cool... As for the questions above: 1)Why was Kelmo there at the exact right moment? A reasonable explanation is the timing of the events. When the camp was abandoned the skin spies could "smell" kell's blood/scent, or at least know he was part of the family. Seeing as Kellhus is the most important and dangerous person in the world, the consult probably had his (and every other major players) scent 2)Why did Kellhus bring Kelmo to Golgotterath at all? This is his weakness. Instead of doing the logical thing, he cares for Esmenet knowing that her emotions are irrational. He knows kellmomas is dangerous, but at this part of the plan it doesn't really matter. 3)Why did Kellhus seeing Kelmo cause him/Ajokli to lose control of the Chorae? Because he was distracted. For the gods Kellmomas is an impossibility, something they can't conceive. What if a pink singing elephant appeared in front of you, surely you would need some time to process this. Also, Ajokli is not used to being reasonable or making strategic choices. Nothing can harm him. Letting his guard down like a complete idiot is not such a great surprise. 4)Why did Kelmo reactivate the No-God? I have absolutely no clue. Another colossal failure...maybe my mind can't grasp the truth. However seems like nobody knows so it's not only me. Seeing as he had 4 books to answer this very basic question, it's either stupidly obvious, or too profound ...
  5. I don't think anyone noticed this, but I had a good laugh on my reread. Every time a cock is described, it's curved towards the belly. Can't remember a different desription
  6. But what about the rest of the universe ? Are the gods only real in Earwa because the "barrier" between the worlds is thin enough to permit human/non-man thoughts to influence the outside ? Or do the gods exist(and are aware of everything) but can't influence anything else ? Also, how far into the universe does the no-gods influence extend ? Is erwa the obly place of this kind, and if yes, why ? So many damn questions that bakker will probably never answer...
  7. What about the atrocity tales ?
  8. Ajokli used Kelhus's tricks. He made him love, thats how he manipulated him
  9. If the first series is adapted they will probably add more POV characters to give some insight on the holy war. Those who thought about adaptations... how would you do it ??
  10. What?! I thought the Gods saved Kellhus with the help of the trapper
  11. I don't like the word, but it's the only one that fits... you(and others) don't understand because you are too priviledged. Western ideals don't just appear out of thin air. Shitty conditions create shitty people. That's it. I have known the stories, but the first time I have seen it was a few years ago in a western country not some shithole you can't find on a map... This is happening right now, in the age of computers, the internet and 3d printed organs That is why Bakker's world is internally consistent and that's one reason people hate it. Being from eastern EU I have seen and heard of many shitty people doing shitty things, Earwa didn't feel as foreign to me as to most readers. Years under the communist regimes made our outlook different. The notion of people being "good" is something only the west takes for granted, that's why Bakker is horrifing, he shows us something about humanity most would rather forget.
  12. Internally consistent is a better word. Still, same point.
  13. One crazy explanation that kinda makes sense(without being a paradox) is basically having multiple universes. If in one universe someone becomes the no-god then this affects all other realities. That is why Kelmomas is invisible, in another reality (similar but still different)he has already become the no-god . The gods only exist in one reality, hence they confuse the two. Kellmomas and alt-Kelmomas are both invisible This way the logos (that what comes after) still works.
  14. Did you read my whole comment ? I understand that Bakker's world is sexist, racist and all arround horrible, what I don't understand is the argument against that. Simple math. Our medieval world=sexist Our medieval world+ Sranc, the apocalypse etc = even more sexist If he made the ammount of sexism less(or the same) than medieval Europe, his world would not be authentic.
  15. I don't get the Bakker's world is sexist argument, neither the "that's how it was back then" . Of course sexism and other "isms" are worse in this book than in "reality". Half of the world was destroyed by crazed monsters, schoolmen can kill thousands with their powers and Gods are real(and insane). Human rights,enlightment ideals etc arise if the conditions are right, they don't just appear out of thin air.... Our morals evolved because technology made it possible. As far as I know Earwa doesn't even have the printing press, let alone electricity and internet. Most readers(especially americans) are outraged because they don't appreciate how hard it was to get here. Thousands of wars, genocides, rebellions etc before ideas like freedom, equality etc became possible. Heck, you blame Earwans for being unfair yet the "self evident truth" of all men being equal came with a lot of cavaets... in a society much more advanced than Bakker's world