Lady bonehead

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  1. I don’t believe Rhaegar was mad, just an impractical dreamer who believed in prophesies and visions and didn’t handle power politics very well. Of course the irony is that he may have been right.
  2. I wish I’d thought of that. It’s never too early to teach your kids about crushing their enemies.
  3. According to their vows they should have been obeying Aerys’s orders, not Rhaegar’s (unless Aerys told them to obey Rhaegar, which doesn’t seem likely). In that case their instructions might have been not so much to protect Lyanna as to keep her (and her baby) locked up no matter what. Come to think of it, maybe Aerys had Rhaegar locked up initially and only released him when he decided he was needed to fight Robert.
  4. 1. We know that this was a fever dream and the conversation didn’t take place exactly as described. Nonetheless it does seem odd. 2. Nothing we know about Arthur Dayne in particular suggests that he is a robot who follows orders blindly without exercizing any judgment. 3. The words “we swore a vow” here may be key. Does he mean the Kingsguard vow? Or some specific vow sworn to either Aerys or Rhaegar (such as “Keep Lyanna in that tower no matter what!”) Even if we are talking about the Kingsguard vow there is a potential conflict—follow the orders of the now-dead king (or prince), or follow the prime directive of protecting the present king (Viserys or Jon, depending).
  5. Haven't seen this discussed before, but supposing that some of the WW are Craster's sons, this means that Gilly is their sister, and her baby is their brother twice over. Not sure how this would play out but we know that siblings are important in the story. At minimum it would mean that Jon's baby swap is ironic, since in all likelihood Mance's son will turn out not to be important at all.
  6. After killing Aerys, Jaime himself considered the option of declaring Aegon king, then rejected it because Aegon had Aerys's blood. He may have thought even at the time that that was Tywin's plan also, since it would have been a way of putting the Lannisters directly in power rather than kowtowing to Robert. I do wonder if at any point we will get some version of the subsequent interaction between Jaime and Tywin (squirms).
  7. All right, but save the world from what? Did Rhaegar have any idea of the nature of the menace? And what made him think that the prophecies were scheduled to come true just now?
  8. OK, We know that Rhaegar was obsessed with prophecy, that he believed that either he or his son was the Prince that was Promised, but do we have any evidence that he was aware of an existential threat to the realm ( the White Walkers)? People tend to assume that Rhaegar wanted to save the world, but maybe his ultimate objective was just restoring the Targaryen dynasty to its former glory--same thing all the Targaryens have been trying to do since the dragons died out.
  9. I'm glad someone mentioned Tyrion's sending Myrcella to Dorne, because we are made to feel at the time (especially in the show version) that this is a clever move, but really it's not. Tyrion is mainly motivated by spite against Cersei, who has every right to be consulted about the marriage of her only daughter, and doesn't really consider the long-term consequences. After all the Dornish are not that important militarily, and it's well known that they hate the Lannisters, which means that they are likely to believe the incest story even if they don't act on it. Which means that instead of making a useful alliance, he's just provided his enemies with anuseful hostage.
  10. Probably mentioned before, but considering what we know about wights could this be a literally prophetic dream? (ASoS Jaime II) "In his dreams, the dead came burning, gowned in swirling green flames. Jaime danced around them with a golden sword, but for every one he struck down two more arose to take his place."
  11. Either Jon or Dany, or both, is almost certainly infertile, so a normal marriage with kids ain't gonna happen. In fact after dying and being resurrected I wouldn't be surprised if Jon isn't just infertile but actually impotent. I always had him pegged as a sacrificial hero who dies for the greater good or perhaps becomes a perpetual Undead hero. But perhaps it is Dany who will end up being the sacrificial hero.
  12. Rhaegar, Varys, Howland Reed, Hoster Blackwood and Ser Pounce.
  13. The characters in the story judge themselves and each other according to moral standards that we recognize, otherwise it wouldn't really work (would you really want tonread a story about a bumch of Dothraki?). Rape is illegal in Westeros and can be harshly punished. Yeah, nobles can get away with raping peasant girls, but (news flash) rich guys nowadays get away with things that poor guys get long prison sentences for. Marital rape is legal (as in most societies), but violates the rules of courtly love which hold that noblewomen should be respected. Robert assaults Cersei when he is drunk but then apologizes afterwards, meaning he has some awareness of having done something wrong. I guess the annoying thing about Tyrion is that he is a rich kid who portrays himself as a victim.
  14. Considering all the horrendous crimes committed in the series, I'm not going to blame anyone for making sexist comments or having rape fantasies. Even sex with a reluctant prostitute is just an extension of what Tyrion's been doing for years, he knows women are repulsed by him but he still has needs so he is used to ignoring the woman's feelings. Honestly, Tywin could have tried a bit harder to find him a wife, if I was the homely daughter of some impoverished knight for example I would cheerfully put up with Tyrion in exchange for a life of luxury! Anyway, I think Penny gets seriously inside Tyrion's head because she seems to be genuinely attracted to him. This is all getting away from the theme of Tyrion-hating however. Honestly the problem isn't Tyrion himself, who is a fascinating and complex character, but all the fans who are so attached to him that they think everything he does is justifiable.
  15. We are absolutely set up at the beginning of the story to like Tyrion. He has a disability, he's smart and funny, he likes to read (just like us!), he's a "bad" Lannister but he sympathizes with the "good" Starks, and gosh darn it nobody appreciates him! But gradually we come to realize the extent that he is motivated by resentment and jealousy. In some sense he is worse than Tywin, who never loses sight of the ultimate goal of securing the stability of the realm. My breaking point was the Symon Silver Tongue incident, which was so gratuitous I didn't believe it at first. Another point about the Tysha incident is the fact that Tyrion tells this story (more than once I think). Who tells a story like that, even in a bowdlerized version?