Ice Spider

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  1. LMAO at everyone thinking Sandor is the only one that would have a chance. Err, Ahh, did everyone forget Sandor got his ass kicked by Brienne? Think about that one for awhile, then think a bit more before you offer up any excuses as to why he got his ass kicked by a girl. Dario would have a chance, if he fought the same way that the Viper did., Oberyn started out by cutting the mountains achilles, rendering him immobile.
  2. ??? For starters, look no further than the battle between Stannis's men vs the Wildlings. Even Tormund commented on how they wildlings did not stand a chance against a mounted force "They rode through us like butter".
  3. That has to be the most ridiculous argument I have heard in a long time, in all due respect. The Question was who was smartest, not who had the highest IQ, for starters. Your understanding of how standard IQ tests are administered is extremely flawed, a different test is given, dependent on which age bracket the testee falls into. This does not equate to an IQ of 120 for a 12 year old = the same intelligence of an IQ of 120 for a 30 year old. Give them the same test and the scores would be much, much different.
  4. If your going to quote me, get your facts straight, My reference was to the Battle North of the Wall, not when the "remnants" of the Wildling Army was in the Battle of the Bastards.
  5. I am quoting your original post to point out the question you asked, which was quite simply the three smartest characters. This would be regardless of age. I am not going to dispute the fact that IQ tests take into account age, that is solely do to the reason they are meant to compare IQ's across that age bracket. That does not mean to say a child with an IQ of 120 is smarter or as smart as an adult with an IQ of 120 (or even 100 for that matter). To very different things I am afraid.
  6. Wildlings had much more men, and I am not sure where you get the idea either did better than the other.
  7. For starters, look no further than the battle between Stannis's men vs the Wildlings. Even Tormund commented on how they wildlings did not stand a chance against a mounted force "They rode through us like butter". Second, like it or not, Stannis's battle was used as as plot fodder to make it appears Ramsay's forces were superior, so that Jon's victory would be perceived as almost impossible. Lastly, Stannis was expecting a siege, he was taken off guard when Ramsay's forces were outside the castle walls and charged him.
  8. Being articulate in and of itself is not quite the same as being smart. Case in point any politician. She has moxie, yes. Besides, your rephrasing the original question ( adding age as a consideration) just to suite your argument. I'm not saying she is stupid by any means, but she has lead a very sheltered life and is very naive of the world outside of hers. Dead people can't be smart. Olyenna is over rated and was routinely out maneuvered by both the high sparrow and Cersei.
  9. If the books have the entire fleet originally land at Dragonstone it's stupid. The Logical place to land would be Dorne, And then Dany, after getting supplies etc, travels on towards Dorne.
  10. It's a relative argument as who is smartest.......... in what way? general acquired knowledge? knowledge specific to one particular thing? problem solving skills? It's also a bit in flux, as several characters are in the process of acquiring knowledge at an accelerated pace. At any rate, Lady Mormont doesn't crack the top three any any of the above.
  11. LMAO, you just don't get it. The night's watch has never involved itself in the wars of Westeros, ever. Had it been the Lannister Army at the wall, they would have offered them the same food and shelter. This is neutrality. Denying someone aid is not being neutral.
  12. You obviously don't understand neutrality. No one in Westeros would raise a brow to the fact John provided food and shelter to Stannis after Stannis had prevented to wildling invasion, thus saving the very lives of those who later gave them shelter. Take note that when Stannis wanted help from the NW before he invaded WF, John denied that help.
  13. About pretty much everything you said. 1) Jon did not break his vows. He was ordered by his superior officer to infiltrate the Wildlings, even to go as far as to kill his commander. Anything Jon did during his time with the wildlings was a direct result of this order. 2) Jon, nor the Night watch, never allied themselves with Stannis. Yes, they provided him shelter and food, after Stannis had come to Jon's rescue. Nothing more. They never choose sides. 3) The wall, and more importantly the Night Watch, was not originally intended as a force to keep out the wildlings. It was built to hold back the others. Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come There is no mention of Wildlings in the Vows of the night watch. I will admit, that over the course of a 1,000 years, when the Others became stuff of legends and folklore, and the Wildlings became the only tangible threat beyond the wall, the Night's Watch role slowly evolved. However, this was never incorporated into the vows themselves, and the Night's Watch was only following the orders of the Lord Commander. When Jon Snow became Lord Commander, he earned the right to change that order, as he saw fit. On the show, Jon has never committed treason. He did die at his post, and thus was released from his vows. It wasn't until after his resurrection that Jon got into politics.
  14. Yeah but, your wrong.
  15. Would rather see Bran the builder and the original long night than RR.