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  1. Why do Robb, Sansa, Brandon, and Rickon...

    All true. But also GRRM's subverted fairytales seems to be another factor to consider for Arya. The Ugly Duckling is an obvious one. The only Stark child among Ned's children. Arya is perceived to be the outcast (Swan), and doesn't measure up to the more Southern looking (ducks) Tully siblings. The bird/swan imagery and the other Ugly Duckling story markers in her chapters seem deliberate on George's part. Which is interesting to consider... what impact that has on her overall story? George seems to emphasis Arya's similarity in appearance to Lyanna. George could have made the link between Jon and his mother another way without drawing several parallels with Arya. http://i.imgur.com/L4UN6R1h.jpg *Arya at Kings Landing looking at the dragon skull of Blarion the Black Dread, Aegon the Conqueror’s dragon. And Lyanna Stark at the tourney at Harrenhal.
  2. Pleasing? Dunno. But it would be a controversial chapter for sure! Would George have the nerves to write it? Nothing is certain until George releases the next book. The manner of Jon's "resurrection" will almost certainly be different to what D&D mashed together. I wasn't trying to be patronising so I apologise if that's what you feel happened.
  3. As far as we know, Nymeria is acting very much like an Alpha wolf. Not mating with any of her "grey cousins" a distinction Arya suddenly makes in ADwD (after previously only calling her pack members brothers & sisters) Nymeria only showed submissiveness to Ghost and Nym even forgot Arya for a moment so she can follow Ghost - a scene in AGoT. Was Ghost the Alpha of her original pack? Jon's connection to Ghost and his warging abilities will be so much stronger once he is resurrected. Arya's return to Westeros and finding her direwolf (combined with other skin-changing ability) how much stronger will he connection with Nymeria be as well?
  4. If that were the case, he would have given her the same talk he gave Sansa. Do you not see how weird that all looks? One daughter was going to marry a future King and the other just wants to play in dirt and practice at sword-play. The "No, that's Sansa" line throws people like you off which seems intentional by the author. It's not the first time George has used that kind of deflection either. But if you want to believe Ned's convo with Arya makes any kind of sense (wishful-thinking, comforting his wild child daughter by telling her she will marry a King and have lots of babies...etc) and think that's remotely realistic and warrants no further examination... then dunno what to say. By the time Jon & Arya meet again, they will be very different people. The Jon that returns from being dead will not be the same Jon than Arya last saw at Winterfell. Arya is going through a transformation as well. We already have Jon wondering if he would even be able to recognize her again? Arya doesn't think Jon will be calling her "little sister" anymore. Jon seems rather ambivalent when it comes to bedding a sibling if you consider his conversation with Ygritte about Longspear. ...etc.
  5. "Groggy" is the best explanation? That whole scene was precisely crafted by George and has an usually similar air to the scene with Cersei and Maggy the Frog: _________________ Ned answers each of Arya's questions in an odd way as well: ~ ARYA: Can I be a king’s councillor? NED: You will marry a King. (A Queen can be a King's Counsellor - case in point: Alysanne Targaryen (who became Queen at 12 years old, marrying her brother) ~ ARYA: [Can I] build castles? NED: [You will] rule his castle. (As a Queen would.) ~ ARYA: [Can I] become the High Septon? NED: Your sons will be knights and princes and lords and, yes, perhaps even a High Septon. ~ Both Cersei and Arya don't understand. But fate has a funny way of happening. As we see play out with Cersei. Ned wasn't groggy. He was an instrument of foreshadowing. He had another conversation with his other daughter telling her she would marry a High Lord, making her a Lady. The people Arya looks up to were powerful women in a lot of ways - including through motherhood.Why is that a bad thing? What is there to disparage. "Glorified brood sow". Like Queen Nymeria was and the other 2 Lady brood sows who helped conquer Westeros...etc. This is just perplexing to me. If you think George is going to give these Stark kids the fate they all wanted and expected... then I think we're in for some major disappointment. 9 year old Arya never wanted to be a Lady. Yet she is learning how to be anything she needs to be - while remaining herself on the inside. The setup is already available for George to go down whatever path he wishes. The bittersweet ending that has Arya sacrificing her freedom and taking on a role that forces her to become something she never thought she would be... seems like a GRRM-ing things to do.
  6. Yep. Not to mention Arya thinking Jon won't be calling her "little sister" anymore.
  7. Sansas ending

    I always enjoy @chrisdaw posts.
  8. I assumed 11 because that's what Jon says in one of his ADWD chapters. But.... There is debate about Arya's timeline. The breakdown of the moon turns in Braavos and all of Arya's visits to the HoBW give a good indication. In the discussion below they breakdown the timeline: This comment clarified it: Placing Arya's last ADWD chapter around **April 301**. Arya's nameday is near the beginning of the year? So by the end of ADWD she could already be 12. By Winds, we find her at the end of her mummers training putting her even further along. She'll be 13 soon. I never realized she was that far along. But George did say he fast-tracked Arya's timeline in previous books. He would do something similar in Winds as well for other characters.
  9. What was the best scene from the books in your opinion?

    I think she also shed tears when she thought about giving up her Needle: Needle was Robb and Bran and Rickon, her mother and her father, even Sansa. Needle was Winterfell's grey walls, and the laughter of its people. Needle was the summer snows, Old Nan's stories, the heart tree with its red leaves and scary face, the warm earthy smell of the glass gardens, the sound of the north wind rattling the shutters of her room. Needle was Jon Snow's smile. He used to mess my hair and call me "little sister," she remembered, and suddenly there were tears in her eyes.
  10. why was Jaqen allowed to kill names not on the list ?

    Don't you find it's odd that Rorge and Biter are both submissive and fearful of Jaqen even after they escaped the cage? They must have seen his face-changing ability. Which means he was not always wearing the Jaqen face we first see.
  11. Endgame roles for all major characters (TV only)

    It's kind of Newstar's thing to diminish and put down Arya every chance she gets. But you're right about the spoiler stuff you mentioned.
  12. Endgame roles for all major characters (TV only)

    About Nymeria and her pack... I like your Queen prediction in light of that. The irony of Varys speech to Kevan where George slips in Arya's many experiences is very interesting. D&D said they would eventually come to a similar ending George planned for the books - they are just going down different roads to get there. Arya's exit from the FM is purely D&D's creation. By gutting other minor storylines it messes a lot of things up later down the line. In the next book I think George is planning for Jeyne Poole and Arya to come face to face in Braavos.
  13. Endgame roles for all major characters (TV only)

    Arya has never been in a position where she can just *be* Arya Stark since escaping KL. So how can you say she doesn't have leadership qualities? I think she clearly does. Not to mention her direwolf displays exactly those traits as well.
  14. I agree, I don't think a whim would be enough for her to do what I described. But if there was something of high importance, that she could rationalise as being vital to helping her family or people she cares about - she would do it, wouldn't you agree? Her own happiness is something she is willing to sacrifice if she has a bigger goal worth achieving. That's what I think her arc is building up towards. Making her into someone who can survive living a life she would otherwise never want. Her ability to live a duality is something the KM sees in her and Arya does as well. Couple this with the fact that George is going to flip things on the head and will give the Stark kids a fate they never expected or wanted.
  15. Do you think she capable of sacrificing her wants for a good enough reason? If it meant something to Jon or her wider family?