Muttering Ed

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  1. I put this in another thread before I saw this one, but they clearly are the: unHodor Recovery Squad
  2. The unHodor Recovery Squad.
  3. That is very, very interesting. I never looked at it this way before. Food for thought.
  4. Okay I know this is futile but here goes anyway. My responses inserted below: (also please note Wolfmaid that my response is done with respect! I enjoy your posts very much, so even if we disagree on this I still find your comments wonderfully insightful and imaginative. You and some others here have done a lot to open my eyes to these novels!) So yep, agree to disagree.
  5. Kudos to you sir. The late king will forever be trouserless to me.
  6. Got to be honest, Robert being Jon's father is one of the least compelling theories I've seen. No offense Wolfmaid, but all of King Robert's children have black hair and blue eyes, and that's definitely not Jon. "Trouserless Bob" is a great name for Robert and he left us plenty of evidence that his children have a certain look. Whereas Jon looks so uniquely Stark that even crazy old Craster noted him for a Stark at one glance. FWIW, I'm on board for R+L=J until something more convincing is put forth in the text. I just haven't seen anything more convincing so far. PS... who is the aspiring bard who coined the nickname "Trouserless Bob"? I love the descriptiveness of that epithet.
  7. Check out Storm of Swords chapter 48. When Jon gets back to Castle Black ahead of the wildling attack, he learns that Bowen was chasing wildlings who were feinting attacks ahead of Mance's huge assault on Castle Black. The wiki also has a good summary of what happened: .
  8. Yes to both of these. The Watch had set up a blocking force to keep the Free Folk from coming south. The white walkers removed (decimated, actually) that blocking force and nibbled on the edges of the Free Folk to keep driving/herding them south. I'm not sure yet that the white walkers are totally hellbent on murdering every human, despite Old Nan's scary stories. But they pretty clearly want humans gone from their lands north of the Wall. Once that magic barrier of the Wall is out of service, whether it falls or just loses its magic, we'll find out what they really want. They may want all of Westeros. Or maybe they just want what was promised in the Pact between the First Men and the CotF. I'm eager to find out!
  9. Or... perhaps the end of the Long Night is what defeated the Others. But men (being men) decided it must have been their own heroic efforts that won the day. The survivors get to write the history and tell the legendary stories to make themselves look good.
  10. I'm a bit surprised that no one else has mentioned it here, but I always felt the Night's Queen was more likely to be some form of wight rather than a white walker. Imagine someone like a Ms. Coldhands, if you will, in league with (or servant of?) the CotF. If she had once been a woman that the NK knew, I could easily see him riding off into the forest with her, perhaps to consult with the CotF, and the legend grows that they spend time together because they are in love. What happens if Jon's lovely Val faces a similar fate? Would Jon spurn poor Val if she came to him with black hands and cold skin? On a similar track, I also believe that a big part of the supposed Pact between First Men and the CotF was agreement to blood sacrifice to the weirwood trees. If all magic is blood magic, what keeps the weir-net (and the old gods) alive and functioning? Men agreed to serve the trees, and the NK may have just been honoring this pact when he was accused of sacrificing children. I love Old Nan's stories because it's so easy to see alternate possibilities through misinterpretation or deliberate deception down through the ages. The winners (or the survivors) were the ones who got to write the history.
  11. IMO, Moat Cailin suits the Starks just perfectly as it is right now. You can use it to defend very well from any attack against the north, but it's not very effective at stopping the northmen from going south. Why would you want to build it up and risk someone capturing it and using it against you to keep you bottled up in the north? It wouldn't hurt to garrison it during times of war, but during peacetime you can let it continue sinking into the muck.
  12. First... thanks! I'm just happy to be here. Second... I know. Just couldn't resist. Third... Not sure I'm convinced by Ned's sadness. Ned is a fairly morose guy anyway, plus I get the impression he spends a lot of time in prayer and reflection before the Old Gods each time he kills someone. And since Arthur seems to be an admirable dude, Ned probably has deep respect if not almost reverence for him. I could see Ned being quite sad about having killed this legendary warrior without any other complications like Arthur fathering Jon. I agree about the Sword of the Morning imagery around young Jon, and that there does seem to be some connection between the Starks & Daynes. At the moment though it's not enough to sway me away from seeing Rhaegar as the papa. I'm more persuaded that the imagery foreshadows Jon being deemed a Sword of the Morning candidate in the future. Perhaps the Daynes actually knew the secret and view Rhaegar's son as a prince who may prove worthy of wielding Dawn. Perhaps they agreed with (or convinced) Ned to protect Jon up north where presumably he'd be safer, since Arthur and Rhaegar were such boon companions and Ned was on the winning side of the rebellion. Note there are lots of "perhaps" in all that speculation.
  13. Interesting. Good catch. I guess Sam's broken horn wouldn't be needed in this case. I have an idea though that the big magical wall is coming down. And probably caused by somebody doing something stupid, with the destruction of the wall as a result of unintended consequences. Maybe Queen Selyse (spelling?) or Mad Mel doing something crushingly stupid at the Nightfort, like burning a certain creepy weirwood door.
  14. Speaking of Daynes and the Sword of the Morning, the last mummers version of the Tower of Joy scene had a nice lingering shot of young Ned placing Ser Arthur's sword against Lyanna's bed as he went to her side. I presume we were supposed to notice it, and we'll be seeing it again. Or maybe that's a clue to who's been swording who. I need a new book to drive me crazy.