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  1. Is Tysha in Sothoryos?

    And if he's looking for that place, then you're saying Tyrion's going out by his own hand? Bold! Or maybe I'm saying it. Still not convinced. I agree with @Orphalesion: Tyrion repeats this to himself while he's in Essos because he's trying to get beyond the care or knowledge of anyone in Westeros. He wants to go where nobody cares who he is or if he's even alive. As I recall, he does have some nearly suicidal thoughts during this time.
  2. Who will kill Jaime Lannister

    Jaqen = Honor. You want to post that thread or you want me to?
  3. Who will kill Jaime Lannister

    I bet he falls off a horse.
  4. Who delivered the letter from Lysa to Catelyn?

    Hard to say. I disagree, but it's entirely plausible, as power is a universal motive. I mentioned the difficulty of Ned and Robert's relationship to point out that Ned doesn't seem like a natural choice for Robert. As many times as we're told they're old friends, we also see them in conflict and recalling past conflicts. And one bit of very convenient timing - Littlefinger offers to show Ned the brothel with Robert's newborn bastard only hours after Ned quits the Handship and makes arrangements to go back North. Littlefinger wants Ned to stay in King's Landing and finish barking after Baratheon bastards. And in terms of the narrative, Littlefinger is one of the first characters to greet both Ned and Cat when they arrive. A more vague point could also be made on Littlefinger's style. He wields power because other powerful people think he's not powerful. Master of Coin is viewed as a dull job, but we know that Littlefinger has a long history of "rubbing two dragons together" and using that money to influence countless people to act in his interest. And given the poor luck of Hands, it seems like would Littlefinger prefer to wield his power as a perceived background player.
  5. Small Questions v. 10105

    Is it possible Mel is seeing Jinglebell (Aegon Frey) instead of Patchface?
  6. Who delivered the letter from Lysa to Catelyn?

    I think everything points to Littlefinger being behind the letter, so I'd assume it's some messenger of his. Although we don't have a definite timeline, the self-titled "Most precise timeline" I found puts the letter's arrival less than a week from the King's arrival and offer of Handship. That's pretty tight timing considering it would take longer than that to get a mounted messenger down to KL to confirm arrival and then back to Winterfell. Or maybe the arrival date could be estimated. Or someone had sent a raven to KL and Littlefinger got wind of it. But I'd wager that Littlefinger had an agent either shadowing the king's party or traveling with it. I doubt that it was someone officially in the king's party, as that would have made the person more recognizable, more notable when absent, and more likely to blab to other members of the court. A random person would be the safest. We already know from Mance how easy it is to fall in with such a huge party, and that any royal caravan attracts a great number of followers. It would have been no problem for a random person to follow them up the road and camp out near Winterfell. The implications on the plot are important. That letter was written to influence Ned's decision to come south, and we know Cersei didn't want Ned as Hand, so the question is who does want Ned to be Hand? It's pointed out that Ned and Robert hadn't seen each other in almost 10 years, that they left each other on bad terms during the rebellion, and that their current relationship is strained. That really doesn't sound like a BFF situation. And we're also told that Robert loathes to make his own decisions, so we can surmise that someone gave Robert the idea. That leaves Varys and Littlefinger. We know from Arya's eavesdropping that Varys was uncomfortable with Ned and considered him unpredictable as part of his plans with Illyrio. That leaves Littlefinger as the person who suggested that Ned be the Hand, and set off the entire sequence of events in the books. Luwin did walk on Ned and Cat post-coitus, so it's understandable that he's uncomfortable. As much as I love eating tinfoil, the Citadel Conspiracy is just a huge can of worms. Lady Dustin seems to think they're behind the Tully/Stark alliance, but I'm not sure how that extends to making Ned the Hand. Although I'm always happy to speculate. The coalition formed by that alliance is clearly geographical: the Riverlands, the Vale, and the North. Those three regions are all bound together by familial ties and form a contiguous territory. If the Maesters want that region to have more influence in KL, it would make sense to replace Arryn with the head of house Stark. And he's the only choice, with Hoster Tully on his lengthy deathbed. But Littlefinger seems to be collecting alliances in those same regions. He was behind Arryn's murder, and himself pointed out that Starks tend to die in the south ("...and melt when you ride below the Neck."). Hoster's illness is cast as suspicious, as well. If there is a Maester plot, it looks like Littlefinger is trying to either subvert or hijack it.
  7. valonqar twist

    Every corn king must shed his husk.
  8. valonqar twist

    Well I try to keep my conclusions a little bit inconclusive. I'm better at reading GRRM's books than his mind! But I've actually considered that and find the theory attractive, but I haven't occasioned to pursue evidence or analysis. I was posting something the other day with not-so-subtle push for Tywin having fertility difficulties. Why else would he wait so long to have a second son? It's out of character for a man so preoccupied with Legacy and Pride to leave the House Lannister's legacy to chance and pride to Tyrion. In fact he could have easily - unless he's infertile - just remarried and got another heir the moment Jaime was appointed to the KG. But you digress.
  9. valonqar twist

    My comment doesn't address that point, only the plot stuff. I do like the idea, but I'm hesitant to use it as a premise because such language can be explained by her origin in the East. And GRRM's purpose in choosing a Valyrian word can be explained as a means of hiding the its definition. 20 years on of course there's no mystery, as much as we might keep looking for one. But double (triple, quadruple...) entendre is to be expected, so my curiosity is definitely piqued. And then there's the symbolic aspect, which could also favor Tyrion or even the cometary Arya. I'll have to dig in and do some more quote searching to reach a conclusion. edit: now I'm thinking about the astronomical symbols... the golden necklace of hands would be an excellent symbol for the ring of an eclipse, choking the moon, and Tyrion definitely did that once already. The Hand and solar-archetype theme seem to apply to both Jaime and Tyrion, though with Tyrion getting the nod in that regard due to his very likely Targ parentage. And "dark sun" is the state of AA after killing the moon, which would be at odds with Jaime's arc that has thus far moved him away from that role. I think which valonqar does the deed can be predicted by how much Tyrion and Jaime's plots are meant to mirror, complement, or contrast the other. It would be entirely within expectations if Jaime's events are meant to foreshadow Tyrion and vice versa. Plot twins, in a way.
  10. valonqar twist

    "Shall wrap his hands.." I suspect Shea's death was the first iteration of this prophecy, though I do expect it to be Jaime who does in Cersei. It was mentioned early in the books that Jaime was expected to be elevated to Hand, but was stymied when Ned unexpectedly accepted the job. His ascendent arc make Handship a definite possibility in the coming books. Given the hand-based irony in Jaime's story so far, I'd say that sequence of events is most likely.
  11. Most complex relationship of asoiaf

    I was gonna say the most complicated is Tyrion's relationship with himself.
  12. Danerys is Ned Stark's bastard daughter

    If we (meaning you guys) are still jabbering logistics after three pages, I'm gonna say there's nothing to this. Logistics should be straightforward and explainable. Logistics are sometimes used as misdirection to the reader, but I can't recall them being simply absent. The bigger problem is that there's no thematic evidence or anything that says "secret Stark", while every other character with an obscure background has loads of symbolic and thematic baggage. Dany being a secret Stark would be as big a deal as Jon being a secret Targ, and that major plot mystery was not hidden with just a few blank days on the timeline. It was concealed and revealed in great detail going from simple statements in the earliest pages to associations with obscure mythological archetypes. Jon's parentage is what these books are about. If there is such deeply embedded evidence for Dany being a Stark, where is it?
  13. Why did Tywin liked Jaime so much?

    I go with Jaime being the only person he could take seriously as a male heir and who was - at one point - very respected. But you'd think such a strategic man would go for more than one son, and wouldn't wait several years to do it. If Tywin had had a spare heir (before Tyrion), he could have coerced Jaime into taking the black or allowed his execution after the regicide incident. And Jaime being in the KG wouldn't have been a problem in the first place.
  14. Well it's a medieval setting... anyone who isn't macho or "cool" is dead. People survive either by their own strength or their ability to use someone else's. The weak and lonely tend not to make it. Being raised a warrior is also just part of setting, so I don't see why we'd question it only in the context of a gay character. There's also the intense homophobia of the Middle Ages, which would give any gay person reason enough hide out and go along with the producing of heirs. Of course it's more complex than that, but suffice it to say that gay and macho isn't supposed to be an unlikely combination (see: The Village People).
  15. It's not Alys Karstark, either

    I'd say this is exactly why it can be Arya in the vision. It's not like the information presented in one POV has to be solely relevant to those characters. Jon has already been affected by the vision and Alys's appearance, but the rest of the information is possibly about Arya, whether or not it has a direct impact on Jon. Mel's vision is a double shot of plot information with a double twist that covers two long separated two POVs. It's a clever and efficient conveyance of information that has both misdirection and irony. And if we dig into the symbolic/mythical aspect of the story, it brings a lot of significance to an otherwise pretty tedious passage (which I quoted earlier) that also foreshadows Arya's path East and back west as well as her role as an archetype character.